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GutBomb
Jun 15, 2005

Dude?
Is anyone interested in doing any weekly goon racing in Project CARS 2? I was thinking we could do different cars every week, warm up races or practice session while everyone files in and do some short sprints or hour long enduros one night a week for about 90 minutes, drive around, talk about dicks, etc...

If anyone's interested I can organize it. I just hope we could get more than 3 or 4 goons per week.

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Kilonum
Sep 30, 2002

You know where you are? You're in the suburbs, baby. You're gonna drive.

I'd be down.

a loathsome bird
Aug 15, 2004
I'm down, 90 minutes once a week sounds perfect.

edit: and the patch is finally here!

-Solved VR flicker.

-Changed the default drawing distance when playing in VR to minimize intermittent texture flickering.

-Added ‘automatic by weather' choice to the pitstop strategy menu. Crew will now change tyres if they are deemed unsuitable for the weather.

-Improvements to the cut-track penalty system now takes into account crashed, pitted, and other class opponents in timed races.

-Corrected an issue where Livetrack and weather was not correctly syncing across online races.

-Improved AI in snow conditions. (lol)

a loathsome bird fucked around with this message at 14:48 on Feb 9, 2018

Pinny
Sep 8, 2006
I'd be down for it if its at GMT friendly times.

I'm struggling to get to grips with PCars2 so far though :(

Pinny fucked around with this message at 16:27 on Feb 9, 2018

GutBomb
Jun 15, 2005

Dude?

Pinny posted:

I'd be down for it if its at GMT friendly times.

I'm struggling to get to grips with PCars2 so far though :(

I was thinking Sundays at like, 2:30 PM mountain time. I think that's 9:30 PM in the UK.

GutBomb fucked around with this message at 16:31 on Feb 9, 2018

GutBomb
Jun 15, 2005

Dude?
:siren: Project CARS 2 Goon Racing for February 11th 2017 at 2:30 PM Mountain Time :siren:

Let's start week off off easy.

Road G cars
1973 BMW 2002 Turbo
1971 Ford Escort RS1600
2016 Ford F-150 RTR Ultimate Funhaver
1966 Ford Mustang 2+2 Fastback
2013 Toyota 86
2013 Toyota GT-86

No restrictions on tuning or tires.

Tracks:
Brands Hatch Indy
Sonoma Short
Snetterton 100

GutBomb
Jun 15, 2005

Dude?
Alright, if we are doing this meet in the project cars discord channel (in the OP of this thread) at 2:30

tuo
Jun 17, 2016

Question to the pros: I never - like ever - tried oval racing outside of playing a Nascar game about twenty years ago with the keyboard.

I just tried Daytona in Pcars 2, in the one Nascar car it has. I always thought that oval racing at least needs you to lift, or even brake. All I have to do here is full throttle all the time and steer.

What is wrong?

- is it the track that actually does not need braking in a Nascar car
- is it the stock setup which is too conservative

I guess it's the later? I know this might sound stupid, but I never did ovals and know nothing about it, but would like to try to get into it.

orange juche
Mar 14, 2012



tuo posted:

Question to the pros: I never - like ever - tried oval racing outside of playing a Nascar game about twenty years ago with the keyboard.

I just tried Daytona in Pcars 2, in the one Nascar car it has. I always thought that oval racing at least needs you to lift, or even brake. All I have to do here is full throttle all the time and steer.

What is wrong?

- is it the track that actually does not need braking in a Nascar car
- is it the stock setup which is too conservative

I guess it's the later? I know this might sound stupid, but I never did ovals and know nothing about it, but would like to try to get into it.

Welcome to oval racing. Brakes exist for stopping in the pits.

simble
May 11, 2004

It’s both. It’s a restrictor plate track that is super long. At the other end of the spectrum there’s Bristol. Extremely short with lots of lifting and even braking.

Edit: it also has ridiculous 30 degree plus banking in the corners further limiting the amount of slowing you have to do.

simble fucked around with this message at 16:20 on Feb 17, 2018

tuo
Jun 17, 2016

orange juche posted:

Welcome to oval racing. Brakes exist for stopping in the pits.

I see....so overtaking is purely done by

a) strategy (weight and tyres)
b) slipstream
c) race line
d) ???

GutBomb
Jun 15, 2005

Dude?
Oval racing is about traffic management, drafting, and pit strategy. Some tracks you are full throttle the whole race. Some you have to lift for corners but using the brakes is rare.

GutBomb
Jun 15, 2005

Dude?
Quote is not edit...

Your D is other people's mistakes.

tuo
Jun 17, 2016

Thanks to you all, now I know what to look for :)

tater_salad
Sep 15, 2007


Martinsville Bristol etc you need brakes Daytona you can use brakes to slow you down if you are coming up in a draft to fast and will wreck the car in front of you.

Most tracks you let off on entry then pick back up to x% until your car starts to rotate them back full on the gas on exit.

All tracks are different but at Daytona it's hard to pass and you need to sit in the draft and try and pass while avoiding the massive wrecks that happen.

How is pcars Nascar offline? I'd love a decent offline Nascar experience.

tater_salad fucked around with this message at 16:25 on Feb 17, 2018

peter gabriel
Nov 8, 2011

Hello Commandos
I am from the UK so oval racing was always a mystery to me, no exposure to it over here really at all.
So I never bothered with it in iracing for the longest time and when I finally did I was in the comedy clown cars at some poo poo hole track and I didn't really like or get it. Then I went to Charlotte in the trucks and it all suddenly clicked.
You do go flat out all the time at insane speeds, but it's almost a static race in a sense, you quickly start forgetting about the track and become aware of the people around you and after that happened it's more like some bizzaro strategy game.
You're moving around vehicles at around 10mph or so and working out how to position yourself, how to use draft and how to save tyres, all in a very surreal, very slow motion kind of way.
Then you get wrecked and everyone swears OH CMON!!!!! REALLY????

I like ovals a lot now.

njsykora
Jan 23, 2012

Robots confuse squirrels.


Ovals are about rhythm, you get into the groove and start hitting your marks without even thinking and you can really focus on when and where you want to make passes happen.

Also all 1.5 mile ovals and bigger suck. Except maybe Homestead and Michigan. Short tracks like Bristol are where it's at for the really good stuff.

Norns
Nov 21, 2011

Senior Shitposting Strategist

I like super speedways. Probably cuz I win most of my truck races on them.

Bristol in trucks is awesome but be prepared for battle.

tuo
Jun 17, 2016

Okay, I guess I have to take a truck to bristol, thanks all!

Now prepping everything for Hockenheim tomorrow IRL, winter racing it is :D

Jay_Zombie
Apr 20, 2007

We're sealing the tunnel!
Asphalt Oval tracks, generally speaking:

Daytona and Talladega- foot on the floor, it's all about drafting, managing your run, and avoiding the big one. Maybe dragging the brake a little to keep from running someone over.

More than a mile and up, probably no or minimal braking, unless its Pocono. Roll off, roll on, dont spin the tires. Or maybe flat foot it if you really can nail the line racing line and dwpending on the car you're in, but as the tires fall off, you're going to have to start lifting a bit, and/or get really busy on the steering wheel.

One mile, some braking, tighter quarters.

Less than a mile, lots of braking, even tighter quarters, good luck making it out alive.

The differences in tracks of similar lengths/bankings are more subtle than on road courses, but they are there.

Trucks require the least lifting/braking, B cars somewhat more, A cars the most.

If you want to really try ovals, get out of rookie and D and get into the C trucks. That's where things start to get interesting. I prefer trucks and the B car to the A car, but I haven't driven A in a while.


Edit: for some reason I thought I was posting in the iRacing thread.

Jay_Zombie fucked around with this message at 23:44 on Feb 17, 2018

Combat Pretzel
Jun 23, 2004

No, seriously... what kurds?!
Yeah, I don't know. It might be pretty technical and what not, but it's loving boring to look at. I don't understand why it attracts to much attention over in the US. Can't be just the prospect of a crash.

Jay_Zombie
Apr 20, 2007

We're sealing the tunnel!

Combat Pretzel posted:

Yeah, I don't know. It might be pretty technical and what not, but it's loving boring to look at. I don't understand why it attracts to much attention over in the US. Can't be just the prospect of a crash.

No lie, some races look and are boring as hell, unfortunately, its mostly the ones that get the most exposure.

I've done a little oval racing IRL and I can tell you that it's a shitload funner than it looks. A bunch of drivers banging it out at a short track on a Saturday night is where it's at.

If I won the lottery tomorrow the first thing is do is pay off my bills and then go buy another racecar.

tater_salad
Sep 15, 2007


I prefer my local track to Nascar races hands down.

Doing iracing is fun as hell except for idiots who wreck you but it also happens in real life so welp.

a loathsome bird
Aug 15, 2004
Are people down for doing PCars 2 again today?

Steen71
Apr 10, 2017

Fun Shoe

Combat Pretzel posted:

Yeah, I don't know. It might be pretty technical and what not, but it's loving boring to look at. I don't understand why it attracts to much attention over in the US. Can't be just the prospect of a crash.

One major advantage for the spectator is being able to see the cars all the time, instead of just waiting for them to pass you by once every two minutes or so.

(I imagine, anyway. I've never been to a race IRL.)

jonathan
Jul 3, 2005

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN
Which games have cars from the Schmidt-Peterson racing team ? Specifically looking for the Oculus livery.

njsykora
Jan 23, 2012

Robots confuse squirrels.


Schmidt Peterson is just an Indycar team, so any game with a modern Indycar (rFactor 2, iRacing, PCars 2 officially, AC and AMS through mods) someone will probably have made that livery as a mod.

GutBomb
Jun 15, 2005

Dude?

Ortazel posted:

Are people down for doing PCars 2 again today?

Yep I was planning on it. At 4:30 eastern (30 minutes from the time I'm posting this)

I was thinking we could do something a little faster this week but still road cars. We did road G last week.

jonathan
Jul 3, 2005

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN

njsykora posted:

Schmidt Peterson is just an Indycar team, so any game with a modern Indycar (rFactor 2, iRacing, PCars 2 officially, AC and AMS through mods) someone will probably have made that livery as a mod.

Yeah Rick Peterson is my boss, so I was hoping to see an in-game car with the oculus colours. The new cars mostly have other liveries with a small oculus logo. But the original livery was specifically oculus in orange and black. Some searches show it in iracing.

Norns
Nov 21, 2011

Senior Shitposting Strategist

jonathan posted:

Yeah Rick Peterson is my boss, so I was hoping to see an in-game car with the oculus colours. The new cars mostly have other liveries with a small oculus logo. But the original livery was specifically oculus in orange and black. Some searches show it in iracing.

It's on tradingpaints for iRacing

Jay_Zombie
Apr 20, 2007

We're sealing the tunnel!

Steen71 posted:

One major advantage for the spectator is being able to see the cars all the time, instead of just waiting for them to pass you by once every two minutes or so.

(I imagine, anyway. I've never been to a race IRL.)

Also this. It's basically putting racing in a spectator freindly stadium environment.

Think of it like watching a football game. Oval racing, you can see from endzone to endzone, but road racing, you might only be able to see from like, the 20-50 yard line on the home team side.

OhsH
Jan 12, 2008

njsykora
Jan 23, 2012

Robots confuse squirrels.


Jay_Zombie posted:

Also this. It's basically putting racing in a spectator freindly stadium environment.

Think of it like watching a football game. Oval racing, you can see from endzone to endzone, but road racing, you might only be able to see from like, the 20-50 yard line on the home team side.

Also ovals take up much less space than a road course (most of the time) so a lot of small towns built oval tracks for local racers. Empty Box did a good video a while back going into why oval racing took off in America.

Cojawfee
May 31, 2006
I think the US is dumb for not using Celsius
Which is weird considering how much open space there is in the US.

njsykora
Jan 23, 2012

Robots confuse squirrels.


Here's the video I mentioned, it basically boils down to there's always cars close to each other and its cheap.

Jay_Zombie
Apr 20, 2007

We're sealing the tunnel!

njsykora posted:

Here's the video I mentioned, it basically boils down to there's always cars close to each other and its cheap.

That's one of the better explanations I've ever heard.

Steen71
Apr 10, 2017

Fun Shoe
I think I might have mentioned this before, but motorcycle oval racing was huge in Denmark back in the 70s and 80s, mostly because Danes won an absurd number of speedway world championships (considering our country's size). I had several posters of Danish speedway riders on the walls of my childhood room.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Hv6WhqGt38
(Danes unusually not winning the world championship in '81)

Essobie
Jan 31, 2003

WHAT? THIS IS MY REGULAR SPEAKING VOICE.
Is this better?
As readers of this thread may know, simracingsystem.com is a pretty cool way to race in organized races. Mostly Assetto Corsa as of late, but they have future plans to start up rFactor 2, Automobilista, and even now Race Room races in the future.

I've sort of started my own "business" of making skins for cars for other SRS drivers since the other cool thing that SRS does is there is a skin transfer application in Assetto Corsa that seamlessly uploads/downloads skins over the Internets for all racers. If I know that others are actually going to get to see my work, I'm much more incentivized to do said work. Crazy, I know, right?

That said, I've started actually contributing to my ancient Youtube channel with time lapses of me painting fake race cars for total strangers, and thought you guys might like to check them out. Here's a playlist with the four most recent cars I've done:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=edQfdup5rv0

And here's a few thumbnails of some of my favorites so far:



The Science Goy
Mar 27, 2007

Where did you learn to drive?
No BearPope livery 6/10








(thats dope)

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Norns
Nov 21, 2011

Senior Shitposting Strategist

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XDwvKqlVo1Y

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