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A Buff Gay Dude posted:Lmao holy poo poo the m700 carbon at the meat locker this week Roll of elevated for brutal? Some other good picks this week:   
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Jose Oquendo posted:Roll of elevated for brutal? Brutual is very marginal gains on an mmr Buy like 8 since it's just cash and roll one with competent in the free, one with destructive in the free, one with disciplined instead of prepared, one with disciplined instead of deadly, one with disciplined in the free, I mean, the thing is a loving dream and basically any slot is rerollable for a good sniper playstyle.
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Feb 17, 2018 06:07
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Yeah and I think there's a decent vx-1 this week too. Sniper week.
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Feb 17, 2018 06:08
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A Buff Gay Dude posted:Lmao holy poo poo the m700 carbon at the meat locker this week this is possibly the best rolled weapon I've ever seen at a vendor, holy poo poo Jose Oquendo posted:Roll of elevated for brutal?  brutal on an MMR is, maybe, ~4% actual damage due to how that adds up with the native HSD. Elevated is 10% real damage. Brutal on MMRs: Not Even Once. 8th-snype posted:Cool. Thanks, there's just a ton of info to absorb after not playing this game since before sets were even a thing. It's really tough, all jokes aside, to try and keep track of the ten thousand exceptions to every rule this game has. Psion fucked around with this message at 06:41 on Feb 17, 2018 |
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Feb 17, 2018 06:11
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Jose Oquendo posted:Roll of elevated for brutal? Brutal ends up not adding all that much to sniper rifles ( since they already come such a high score). Probably better off with Destructive or Ferocious. Ghostpilot fucked around with this message at 06:41 on Feb 17, 2018 |
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Feb 17, 2018 06:32
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Depending on what you're going to use it for you might even roll off Deadly. Edit: Or, you know, get 2 (or 3, or 4).
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Feb 17, 2018 06:43
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I had no idea Brutal didn't do much for MMRs. I ended up going with Destructive. Thanks!
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Feb 17, 2018 06:43
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Jose Oquendo posted:I had no idea Brutal didn't do much for MMRs. I ended up going with Destructive. Thanks! Look at it this way, which you can apply to basically all weapons. You've got 172% headshot damage on the rifle that does 100,000 damage, 172,000 damage. Add two 18.5% headshot mods, 209% - 209,000 damage. Add 12% headshot damage, 221% - 221,000 damage. But different damage types (Headshot/Critical Hit damage, EAD, DTE, All Weapon Damage, certain talents) get multiplied together instead of being added to each other So take the damage you do with the headshot mods, 209,000. Instead of adding 12% headshot damage to the 209% you multiply 209,000 damage by 15% - 240,350 damage.
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Feb 17, 2018 06:55
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Damage is additive within a category and multiplicative across categories, so generally the best result by "get as much of as many categories as possible" because multiplicative will result in higher overall output for the same percentages. Really if you're going to watch one marco video ever, the one where he breaks this down with a really nice visualization is the one. Damage calculation is ridiculously opaque otherwise. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ukt_wCxWbc0 Psion fucked around with this message at 20:35 on Feb 17, 2018 |
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Feb 17, 2018 20:26
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Lost a Warlord to the DZ, but gained a Ninjabike (later)  .I'd like to try a shotgun/smg build. What's the hotness in shotguns these days? I have an autoshotgun with pretty good perks but it just shoots too goddamn slow.
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Feb 19, 2018 07:03
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if you think the Showstopper shoots too slowly I'm not sure what else is gonna work because it's the fastest firing shotgun in the game, iirc failing that the SASG-12 (works with everything) and Super 90 (lone star best) are the only other options worth discussing.
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Feb 19, 2018 07:05
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Psion posted:failing that the SASG-12 (works with everything) and Super 90 (lone star best) are the only other options worth discussing. Its a SASG-12. I think I need to throw some more stabilization on it, maybe that fancy extended mag from the Grindhouse this week.
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Feb 19, 2018 07:08
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Psion posted:Super 90 (lone star best) Also going to use this opportunity to be salty again about Massive smashing the 870 into the dirt because it was too powerful in PvP 
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Feb 19, 2018 07:31
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All video game shotguns must suffer because the people that complain about them really complain about them.
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Feb 19, 2018 07:34
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Insert name here posted:Just lol if you don't enjoy the thrill of reloading 16 shells into your shotgun, one at a time. RIP the good ol' days when the reload stat bar on the UI would go backwards. 6 shots is exhilarating, 16 is awful 
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Feb 19, 2018 08:16
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Psion posted:6 shots is exhilarating, 16 is awful
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Feb 19, 2018 08:20
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Kibayasu posted:All video game shotguns must suffer because the people that complain about them really complain about them. The 500 Tactical in Vegas 2 was so sweet, I got so many angry messages on XBL using that thing to snipe people pretty much across maps.
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Feb 19, 2018 08:21
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Yardbomb posted:The 500 Tactical in Vegas 2 was so sweet, I got so many angry messages on XBL using that thing to snipe people pretty much across maps. I played quite a bit of Vegas 2 on XBL and got so many angry kids because I blasted them blindfiring them with my Spas-12. Was hilarious to see them running towards me without knowing that a shotgun was about to pop out and rip their head off.
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Feb 19, 2018 09:04
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So after having to deal with -14 C temps this morning I completely understand why your agent can only stay outside at -30 C for about 2 minutes in a bio hazard suit.
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Feb 19, 2018 17:46
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Rick_Hunter posted:So after having to deal with -14 C temps this morning I completely understand why your agent can only stay outside at -30 C for about 2 minutes in a bio hazard suit. I can only hope you had to light a trash can fire like a hobo.
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Feb 19, 2018 18:07
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Rick_Hunter posted:So after having to deal with -14 C temps this morning I completely understand why your agent can only stay outside at -30 C for about 2 minutes in a bio hazard suit. How long did it take you to scavenge enough discarded clothing to survive?
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Feb 19, 2018 22:55
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Dr. Fishopolis posted:How long did it take you to scavenge enough discarded clothing to survive? 15 dead rioters later I managed to make a thermal clown suit. Casual slacks - 3° resist Gas station stretch gloves - 2° resist Worn black hoodie - 8° resist Land's End jacket - 16° resist Casual walking shoes - 2° resist
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Feb 19, 2018 23:55
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My friends god bless their stupid idiot hearts wanted to go rogue on EVERY player we encountered in the DZ last night which lost me a Big Alejandro which I was kind of excited for since I like the one I have but its stats aren't great. So if you picked it up in The Boiler last night after you killed me, could I uh... Have it back? Please? 
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Feb 20, 2018 03:54
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iSheep posted:My friends god bless their stupid idiot hearts wanted to go rogue on EVERY player we encountered in the DZ last night which lost me a Big Alejandro which I was kind of excited for since I like the one I have but its stats aren't great. I mean you could always leave the group but it sounds like your friends might have just gone rogue on you anyways
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Feb 20, 2018 04:56
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It was their first time playing since 1.6 so I just wanted the kiddos to have fun. Kind of like taking your children/niblings to Disneyland.
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Feb 20, 2018 05:12
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Insert name here posted:Just lol if you don't enjoy the thrill of reloading 16 shells into your shotgun, one at a time. RIP the good ol' days when the reload stat bar on the UI would go backwards. I keep a sixteen round Meticulous Super 90 SBS on my Striker build 
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Feb 20, 2018 05:26
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Capn Beeb posted:I keep a sixteen round Meticulous Super 90 SBS on my Striker build Oh jeez, Meticulous would be pretty nice on a shotgun
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Feb 20, 2018 05:54
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 PSA: PC Gold Edition $36 bucks @ humblebundle.com. Price valid for the next 5 days 22 hrs or so.https://www.humblebundle.com/store/tom-clancys-the-division-gold-edition So I have a Super 90 and a Tac Super 90 sitting here, one is Fierce/Deadly/Ferocious and the other is Sustained/Ferocious/Predatory. Using those two guns, what would be a good 2 pc to go with a 4pc no-Ninja Lone Star ?
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Feb 20, 2018 21:10
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MREBoy posted:
Are either of those guns re-rollable? Assuming its for PVE I'd start with putting Destructive on the second one. If you want a 2 piece bonus to specifically help the shotguns shoot better then the 2 piece accuracy bonus from Sentry's Call helps a lot. Since you're using shell loaded shotguns you may also consider the Predator's Mark reload speed bonus though that's a fairly minor 10%. If the 2 piece is just to help in general then (again assuming PVE) then Nomad's 15% health on kill is always helpful on a Firearms build and if you want to use skills like Pulse or First Aid more often there's the 2 piece Tacticians 15% skill haste. And just as a general aside, looking at the first shotgun, I guess you'd want to build that as a crit shotgun (not exactly the greatest thing in the world but if you're using Lone Star you should have some CHC on your gloves/holster at the very least) but that popped a question into my head. I haven't used shotguns for a bit and I never noticed, if a shotgun crits does it crit for every pellet at once or does each pellet have its own crit chance? Kibayasu fucked around with this message at 21:30 on Feb 20, 2018 |
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Feb 20, 2018 21:27
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Kibayasu posted:Since you're using shell loaded shotguns you may also consider the Predator's Mark reload speed bonus though that's a fairly minor 10%. I'd suggest first rolling reload speed on the holster, but then I do that for every build that involves firearms. That way you can have some reload speed and Sentry's accuracy buff, probably the best compromise? e: oh wait Lone Star, never mind on reload. Take Sentry 2pc for +acc, murder. Psion fucked around with this message at 21:39 on Feb 20, 2018 |
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Feb 20, 2018 21:35
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With a four piece Lonestar you could just swap weapons to reload, so the reload speed wouldn't be necessary. The other pieces work, though!
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Feb 20, 2018 21:37
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Psion posted:I'd suggest first rolling reload speed on the holster, but then I do that for every build that involves firearms. That way you can have some reload speed and Sentry's accuracy buff, probably the best compromise? Ghostpilot posted:With a four piece Lonestar you could just swap weapons to reload, so the reload speed wouldn't be necessary. The other pieces work, though! Oh right, Lone Star is right there, I even typed it out. Duurr. Sentry's Call for accuracy if you want to improve the guns, Nomad if you want health, Tacticians if you want slightly faster skills. Probably in that order.
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Feb 20, 2018 22:07
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SlimGoodbody posted:Oh jeez, Meticulous would be pretty nice on a shotgun It's basically this, just with a flashbomb. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gQWq1Z-J-EE  Of course sometimes it doesn't proc in time or I miss and welp gotta shove all these shells in the tube please don't chase me as I run away!!
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Feb 20, 2018 23:11
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Capn Beeb posted:It's basically this, just with a flashbomb. Or, alternatively, 6 piece Lonestar + Showstopper!
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Feb 20, 2018 23:49
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No idea if this was mentioned somewhere but there's a small chance to get Classified items out of the cache boxes you can occasionally find in the Underground. Pulled a pair of Final Measure gloves out of one.
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Feb 21, 2018 06:24
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Kibayasu posted:No idea if this was mentioned somewhere but there's a small chance to get Classified items out of the cache boxes you can occasionally find in the Underground. Pulled a pair of Final Measure gloves out of one.
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Feb 21, 2018 07:02
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Roman posted:You can get exotics out of them too, but only (I believe) the ones with the fluorescent paint That's been my experience. Granted the times it has happened can be counted on one hand over several hundred hours of playing but they're in there!
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Feb 21, 2018 07:50
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Roman posted:You can get exotics out of them too, but only (I believe) the ones with the fluorescent paint I always wondered if that paint meant anything.
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Feb 21, 2018 08:21
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I have been playing survival a lot more for directives/commendations. I used to play it with a group of four in the past, but now I am running solo all the time. Its a great hour of fun, but man do I get drained after it and need a break. Since I am going for the Vulture commendation I have made quite a few people angry at me. I long for the days where I could slit throats again in PVE. I played PVP survival during my prime time and it was empty. There where 3 other people, but they died to NPCs before I could go after them. I still was able to slurp up their stuff. Survival is still good if you want a change of pace with skill/luck rolled in. Even if you have the map memorized you can still get hell hosed by the early gold NPCs walking in the wrong place. Hopefully when they make changes to what gives div tech they add it to survival caches as well.
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News-focused SotG tomorrow, according to the last stream. Hopefully real news and not just some "we're keeping an eye on ________" bullet points.
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