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The Deleter
May 22, 2010
Plague will accept a world where men can shoot lasers out of their hands, but not a world where gay people might go to space.

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Blockhouse
Sep 7, 2014

You Win!

ApeHawk posted:

You mean to tell me that the person who makes his money off of his softcore porn and self-image of solitude has bad opinions and worse takes?

You can make money off porn without being a dipshit

Improbable Lobster
Jan 6, 2012

"From each according to his ability" said Ares. It sounded like a quotation.
Buglord

Dias posted:

I'll give Plague a bit of a pass on the ME:A comment because it was more thoughtless snarky "gay people can't reproduce so why would they be on a colonizing mission checkmate" than anything else. Still stupid, but not outright homophobic, just 50% there.

That's pretty homophobic

H A T T A M
Apr 21, 2016

Oh wow, I didn't realize how bad MvC:I actually is on Twitch. It has ONE streamer with 4 views hahah.

ZenMasterBullshit
Nov 2, 2011

Restaurant de Nouvelles "À Table" Proudly Presents:
A Climactic Encounter Ending on 1 Negate and a Dream

Dias posted:

I'll give Plague a bit of a pass on the ME:A comment because it was more thoughtless snarky "gay people can't reproduce so why would they be on a colonizing mission checkmate" than anything else. Still stupid, but not outright homophobic, just 50% there.

Plague grew up in rural Tennessee, is overwhelmingly het, draws lovely softcore porn for a living, is a sadbrain nerd that really likes Logic And Reason and Realism in his fantasy media, and spends his lps talking about his dream game that is the game he is playing but there's an item that makes fun if it for playing the way he doesn't like in it.

I'm not saying he's definitely homophobic/transphobic but the odds are pretty fuckin good he's got some brain demons about the topics and it's why I think dismissing the ME:A posts is a little disingenuous.

Blockhouse posted:

You can make money off porn without being a dipshit

I mean it's possible, but it's pretty rare. Esp. when it comes to sad nerd porn artists.

MorningMoon
Dec 29, 2013

He's been tapping into Aunt May's bank account!
Didn't I kill him with a HELICOPTER?
^Other way around. It's almost impossible to make money off of nerd art, but Porn nerd art is where they pay is at.

H A T T A M posted:

Oh wow, I didn't realize how bad MvC:I actually is on Twitch. It has ONE streamer with 4 views hahah.

I decided to try and screencap that for a discord, and that streamer appears to have stopped. Got the rear end-end of the Twitch list and the only Marvel was the LEGO ones. Amazing.

Improbable Lobster
Jan 6, 2012

"From each according to his ability" said Ares. It sounded like a quotation.
Buglord
MvCI is the Battleborn to DBFZ's Overwatch

hoobajoo
Jun 2, 2004

Blockhouse posted:

You can make money off porn without being a dipshit

This. I'm one of the weirdos that like hearing Plague's complain about most things, but there's no doubt he's really ignorant about gay/trans stuff, among other things.

MorningMoon
Dec 29, 2013

He's been tapping into Aunt May's bank account!
Didn't I kill him with a HELICOPTER?

Improbable Lobster posted:

MvCI is the Battleborn to DBFZ's Overwatch

WRONG.



Don't you dare sully Battleborn's name, that game has had a far longer life than MvCI could hope for.

Rhonne
Feb 13, 2012

Marvel's dead baby!

TaurusOxford
Feb 10, 2009

Dad of the Year 2021
Both Battleborn and MvC:I were victims to looking objectively worse simply by the mere existence of their respective counterparts.

Rhonne posted:

Marvel's dead baby!

Rest in Peace, "SQUEEEEZE THAT BITCH!!!"

Rhonne
Feb 13, 2012

Now if only someone could finally kill Melee.

ZenMasterBullshit
Nov 2, 2011

Restaurant de Nouvelles "À Table" Proudly Presents:
A Climactic Encounter Ending on 1 Negate and a Dream

ArmyOfMidgets posted:

^Other way around. It's almost impossible to make money off of nerd art, but Porn nerd art is where they pay is at.

I meant it's usually the sad nerd porn artists like plague that are the dipshits.

Gyro Zeppeli
Jul 19, 2012

sure hope no-one throws me off a bridge

Plague is just a prick and I'd quite like to see SBFP stop giving him exposure like they done with Shadman.

Improbable Lobster
Jan 6, 2012

"From each according to his ability" said Ares. It sounded like a quotation.
Buglord

Gyro Zeppeli posted:

Plague is just a prick and I'd quite like to see SBFP stop giving him exposure like they done with Shadman.

TBF at least plague isn't a neo-nazi pedophile

Gyro Zeppeli
Jul 19, 2012

sure hope no-one throws me off a bridge

True. Still just a dick who flies off the handle way too easily, and has said some questionable as gently caress stuff in the past.

Captain Baal
Oct 23, 2010

I Failed At Anime 2022

Rhonne posted:

Now if only someone could finally kill Melee.

Melee actually has a playerbase and money so good luck

Rody One Half
Feb 18, 2011

You can totally draw butts and also not be an rear end in a top hat. Countless Twitter artists manage it every day!

The Deleter
May 22, 2010

Rhonne posted:

Now if only someone could finally kill Melee.

We're gonna be in the year 2025 and people will be laser printing Wavebird controller parts to keep playing Melee.

Yardbomb
Jul 11, 2011

What's with the eh... bretonnian dance, sir?

Blockhouse posted:

You can make money off porn without being a dipshit

Rodyle posted:

You can totally draw butts and also not be an rear end in a top hat. Countless Twitter artists manage it every day!

Yeah it's a weird thing to say but for every Plague or Shadman or insert any other dummy, I could probably point you to a body-positive, LGBT friendly etc. artist who does what they do because they just don't mind/like drawing the dick & tit and it helps them pay bills or buy things they couldn't otherwise. Really, regressive douches have been getting phased out or overtaken for a while now when it comes to finding good artists.

Yardbomb fucked around with this message at 23:03 on Feb 18, 2018

sexpig by night
Sep 8, 2011

by Azathoth
yea shadman's a piece of poo poo because he's an edgelord pedophile, the fact that he happens to draw butts has nothing to do with it other than it being his outlet for that poo poo. Plague is just a dumb dick with dumb dick thoughts, he'd be a dumb dick even if he never drew ladies with big boobers.

Dias
Feb 20, 2011

by sebmojo
You guys aren't wrong, it's just that I never saw any other instances of Plague being homophobic so I was willing to let it go as just a...problematic joke. If he planted his feet on that one then yeah, he's a prick.

Nilbop
Jun 5, 2004

Looks like someone forgot his hardhat...
What exactly did Plague say so that half a dozen of you are now conclusively labeling him not only homophobic but transphobic too?

Yardbomb
Jul 11, 2011

What's with the eh... bretonnian dance, sir?

Nilbop posted:

What exactly did Plague say so that half a dozen of you are now conclusively labeling him not only homophobic but transphobic too?

This douchey thing.

https://twitter.com/plagueofgripes/status/851220519684845570

And the only person I see mentioning transphobia just said that when someone's got some apparent homophobia, transphobia's usually right in there too.

Vandar
Sep 14, 2007

Isn't That Right, Chairman?



Rhonne posted:

Now if only someone could finally kill Melee.

Melee will kill itself when they run out of controllers and CRTs.

Nilbop
Jun 5, 2004

Looks like someone forgot his hardhat...

Yardbomb posted:

This douchey thing.

https://twitter.com/plagueofgripes/status/851220519684845570

And the only person I see mentioning transphobia just said that when someone's got some apparent homophobia, transphobia's usually right in there too.

There's more to it than this, right?

Foxhound
Sep 5, 2007
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MorningMoon
Dec 29, 2013

He's been tapping into Aunt May's bank account!
Didn't I kill him with a HELICOPTER?
That Plague moment was pretty bad, but I'm mostly with Dias on this. The ME:A joke also basically went "heh, this game is dumb, if this is a colony quest, why so many people who can't reproduce?" "here's half a dozen sensible reasons, including but not limited to, there are thousands of people on the mission and you're important staff on it rather than civilians" "...*mumbles and goes to the next reason ME:A is a bad, dumb game*"

Plague's deffo not a great guy, and I'm not even gonna defend him. But I still enjoy his work and attitude to an extent.

ZenMasterBullshit
Nov 2, 2011

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A Climactic Encounter Ending on 1 Negate and a Dream

ArmyOfMidgets posted:

That Plague moment was pretty bad, but I'm mostly with Dias on this. The ME:A joke also basically went "heh, this game is dumb, if this is a colony quest, why so many people who can't reproduce?" "here's half a dozen sensible reasons, including but not limited to, there are thousands of people on the mission and you're important staff on it rather than civilians" "...*mumbles and goes to the next reason ME:A is a bad, dumb game*"

Plague's deffo not a great guy, and I'm not even gonna defend him. But I still enjoy his work and attitude to an extent.

I dunno, that kind of thinking is the kind of the cousin to "Why are would there be people of Color in this medieval fantasy setting? That's not historically accurate or logical" when half a second of reflection proves that line of thinking wrong. It being the 'joke' sounds alarms mostly cause out of the million things wrong with that game and its writing he decided that was both a problem and the one to really complain about! That and the fact that the joke comes across no different than his usual Gripings about Game Problems.

Plague talks like a real specific kind of barely hidden rear end in a top hat you see online all the time, the reason focused care lord that is weirdly focused on poo poo. This is usually fine until it overlaps with an nuanced issue like "Why would gay people even exist in this fiction piece?" and suddenly the care lord stuff reveals itself to be a smokescreen to bitch about things that offend him. Dude comes across as kind of a very typical Skeptical Gamer sometimes that makes me not want to give him the benefit of the doubt. Especially when he picks those kind of hills to die on.

sexpig by night
Sep 8, 2011

by Azathoth
also acting like '50% of the crew' is gay is really stupid and turns a game with kinda small and weak rear end representation into some "UGH THEY'RE EVERYWHERE"

ZenMasterBullshit
Nov 2, 2011

Restaurant de Nouvelles "À Table" Proudly Presents:
A Climactic Encounter Ending on 1 Negate and a Dream

sexpig by night posted:

also acting like '50% of the crew' is gay is really stupid and turns a game with kinda small and weak rear end representation into some "UGH THEY'RE EVERYWHERE"


Yeah no it's a smokescreen complaint when their real issue is the gays existing at all in their media. Like all Skeptic bullshit it's just a thin layer of 'logic' that half a second of thought makes you go "Actually no you're dumb" to hide their weirdo aggression.

Plague posts like he's one leftist making fun of him/one mild tumblr call out posts from snappy and screaming about queers on twitter. Dude's got no chill (see him snapping at Pat in that tweet earlier)

ZenMasterBullshit fucked around with this message at 16:29 on Feb 19, 2018

Tae
Oct 24, 2010

Hello? Can you hear me? ...Perhaps if I shout? AAAAAAAAAH!
Clemps and Woolie should hang out more often

Foxhound
Sep 5, 2007
Cyberpunk convention dictates that there should be 1 gorillion percent more advertisements in the Binary Domain city. It's ridiculously faceless.

Angry_Ed
Mar 30, 2010




Grimey Drawer

Foxhound posted:

Cyberpunk convention dictates that there should be 1 gorillion percent more advertisements in the Binary Domain city. It's ridiculously faceless.

The massive Cup Noodle Videoboard ads (not to mention Supercop just eating some Cup Noodles in a cutscene) not doing it for you? :v:

(seriously Nissin's marketing department seems to have a real thing for videogames)

Foxhound
Sep 5, 2007

Angry_Ed posted:

The massive Cup Noodle Videoboard ads (not to mention Supercop just eating some Cup Noodles in a cutscene) not doing it for you? :v:

(seriously Nissin's marketing department seems to have a real thing for videogames)

Sure I mean that was one thing but literally every available surface should be plastered with LCD screens and/or neon imo

Tae
Oct 24, 2010

Hello? Can you hear me? ...Perhaps if I shout? AAAAAAAAAH!
Watching Pat's stream with Clemps, dude faked Elmo's death just to get his seat on the coach

Captain Invictus
Apr 5, 2005

Try reading some manga!


Clever Betty

Angry_Ed posted:

(seriously Nissin's marketing department seems to have a real thing for videogames)
I mean, they're marketing to the same type of people that monster/red bull do, so it makes sense for them to go heavy into video games

Ches Neckbeard
Dec 3, 2005

You're all garbage, back up the truck BACK IT UP!

Tae posted:

Watching Pat's stream with Clemps, dude faked Elmo's death just to get his seat on the coach

How does "Paige I think Elmo is sick come look at his poop" translate to faking his death?

Wallrod
Sep 27, 2004
Stupid Baby Picture

Ches Neckbeard posted:

How does "Paige I think Elmo is sick come look at his poop" translate to faking his death?
I can't believe paige admitted on stream to being a cowboy prostitute

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TexMexFoodbaby
Sep 6, 2011

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN
Anyone else think that Clemps laughs like an ole timey prospector?

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