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Jackard
Oct 28, 2007

We Have A Bow And We Wish To Use It

Tornhelm posted:

I believe the term you're looking for is 'misery porn'. Either that or maybe something more focused on romance, which is misery porn in its own way I guess.
That seems like a big leap from "not overpowered"..? No, I'm not looking for something like Grimgar.

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Desuwa
Jun 2, 2011

I'm telling my mommy. That pubbie doesn't do video games right!
I don't avoid stories with overpowered protagonists but it is a big warning flag. You can write a good story with an overpowered protagonist, even one so powerful that he's explicitly unbeatable (i.e. one punch man, arguably kumo desu ga). These web novels are clearly written with only the barest planning ahead and no overarching plot, no underlying themes, and no writing experience to back it up. The author had a singular neat idea and wrote a few chapters inside the framework of a stock plot and a stock setting. Syosetsu is the Steam Greenlight of literature and we're reading the asset flips.

I read two new quests recently, one of which is on topic that I'll cautiously recommend:

History's Most Mediocre Cultivator: A cultivator with mediocre talents who really can't keep up with his peers. He's only just reached the sect so there's not much to go off of, but it's a nice enough little prologue so far. Usually I wouldn't bring up anything this early into its run, but there's nothing offensive or bad and it's on topic.

The Fire That Burns: a magical girl quest that I started out enjoying - the protagonist has a clear goal (protect her sister) and a strong personality, which are good to have. But as I read through it I couldn't really get a read on the main character, she flies off the handle at the smallest things and can be so irrational she's uncontrollable. It's less the thread choosing what she does and more the thread vaguely pointing her in a direction and hoping the author isn't going to have her jump off a cliff out of spite because they didn't agree with the thread's decision. I don't think I'd recommend it but I did read enough to catch up, and haven't decided if I'm going to keep following it or not.

I also read Vermillion recently, which is about players of an ultra-realistic MMO getting stuck in it, but is more like a fantasy survival story. What was translated of it was okay but not exceptional; the high score on NU seems to be from people conflating "gritty" with good, and it's far too early to tell either way. The translation is so glacially slow (one fourth to one half of a chapter every two weeks, and these are not long chapters) that it's just not worth the mental load of following.

Pharohman777
Jan 14, 2012

by Fluffdaddy

Yeah, I have to second the recommendation for Epic Loot.

Basically, in a fantasy world where dungeons are living entities harvested for resources, a newborn, intelligent dungeon is born right outside a sleepy retirement community for adventurers.

Eponymous
Feb 4, 2008

Maybe I just want to be happy, huh?! Maybe I want my life to not be a trainwreck for five GOD DAMN minutes?!
Just read all of Epic Loot based on these reccs, and I concur.

Synthbuttrange
May 6, 2007

3 new Kumo chapters today. One's Shun and the other's sensei tho.

Telsa Cola
Aug 19, 2011

No... this is all wrong... this whole operation has just gone completely sidewaysface
Epic Loot is good but it was hilarious how the writer deliberately set out to create a female protagonist who wasn’t a silent sex object but immediately swaps those issues with other ones with how he portrays her character.

Telsa Cola fucked around with this message at 10:49 on Feb 5, 2018

KOGAHAZAN!!
Apr 29, 2013

a miserable failure as a person

an incredible success as a magical murder spider

Read The Tutorial is Too Hard yesterday. I'm not sure if it's been mentioned here before?

It's another "trapped in a game-like world" story, complete with op protagonist, but with a few fun twists. First off, people are constantly graduating from and being inducted into the game, so they have a channel of communication with the real world. Second, that real world has apparently been invaded by monsters and the superhumans the game produces are desperately needed to fight them off. Third, the story spends a lot of time on the psychological and social consequences of being suddenly transported into a horrible death world full of monsters.

It didn't wow me or anything, but it has its moments (the monks!).

owl milk
Jun 28, 2011
I have to recommend White Collar Cultivator, it's a quest that's pretty much just starting that's about a guy who was mistakenly kidnapped by a cultivator organization and has to work as a paper-pusher. The mortal work ethic is way stronger than that of cultivators (who would much rather cultivate than do their job) so he gets noticed pretty quickly. Seems like it'll have some interesting things to do with clichés in the genre ('righteous anger' and killing tons of people and all that) later on if what's been hinted at is any indication. Uhhh the author writes tons and tons of words per update, the most recent update being the same as a certain vegetable man's meme in word length, but although I skimmed over some stuff like the book reports it doesn't feel like padding as much as either worldbuilding, foreshadowing, or a tiny bit of plot.

Another recommendation for A Will Eternal as well. Pretty sure someone on here said this already but the main character is essentially the main character from Kung Fu Hustle except even more shameless and it's hilarious.

Myriad Truths
Oct 13, 2012
Nanke calmly reasoned, "We can kill him right now, and the fact that we haven't means that we've spared his life. Then he can use his life in exchange. This is very fair."

"This makes sense to you?" Zhizhi opened her eyes wide, utter disbelief within.

Nanke asked Zhizhi, "Do you not understand?"

Zhizhi seriously replied, "I don't understand bullshit."


I wasn't sold before, but Zhizhi suddenly became amazing.

Yinlock
Oct 22, 2008

it's me, i'm the guy who likes overlord, even currently when it's just loving about

i just enjoy the joke of:

guy 1: holy poo poo this guy is so loving evil, he will rip all of us assunder

guy 2: we are but pawns dancing in his palm, his machinations can see into eternity

amoral death skeleton, master of all he surveys:

i can see how people with actual taste would dislike it though

Argas
Jan 13, 2008
SRW Fanatic




I can enjoy and appreciate some of it but I wish something would happen to alter that formula. Ordinarily events in a story would build up to a climax and resolution of some sort.

Jackard
Oct 28, 2007

We Have A Bow And We Wish To Use It

Myriad Truths posted:

I wasn't sold before, but Zhizhi suddenly became amazing.
Haven't read so not sure the context but sounds kinda like the dead parrot edit of Deegan

Make him an Ex-Deegan

gimme the GOD DAMN candy
Jul 1, 2007
anyone with actual taste wouldn't be posting in the web novel thread

Fallorn
Apr 14, 2005

gimme the GOD drat candy posted:

anyone with actual taste wouldn't be posting in the web novel thread

Isn't that the truth, I just like my free popcorn power fantasy trips. It's this or reading John Ringo and you can only read so much Ringo.

Jester Mcgee
Mar 28, 2010

A lot of things have happened to me over my life.

I just finished reading through what there is of Forge of Destiny, and it’s really good. It almost doesn’t fit in this thread because it’s not garbage enough. Luckily it has a bunch of chucklefucks voting for what the mc does so I guess that qualifies it.

I highly recommend everyone go read it right now.

Yinlock
Oct 22, 2008

cultivation chat group is absurdly good, and along with not being a sociopathic rear end in a top hat i enjoy how the main character isn't the unprecedented super-master of every single cultivation step

i mean yeah he goes through them pretty quick but he's just above-average, he has to rely on wacky shenanigans and bluffing his rear end off to win fights

also he tends to get dragged into ridiculous adventures by his bored, farmville-addicted seniors which leads to poo poo like initial d tractor dragracing

Yinlock fucked around with this message at 10:13 on Feb 19, 2018

KOGAHAZAN!!
Apr 29, 2013

a miserable failure as a person

an incredible success as a magical murder spider

"four thousand, three hundred and sixteen words of people telling Maïne how cute she looks"

Christ yes, I thought at the very least I'd get to read Benno or someone lose their mind at the sight of this peasant girl wearing a small fortune in lace.

blastron
Dec 11, 2007

Don't doodle on it!


Autonomous Monster posted:

"four thousand, three hundred and sixteen words of people telling Maïne how cute she looks"

Christ yes, I thought at the very least I'd get to read Benno or someone lose their mind at the sight of this peasant girl wearing a small fortune in lace.

Having literally the entire named cast show up to adulate over the protagonist is a little much. I had to constantly remind myself that the fact that Maïne is soooo cuuuute is relevant to the story in ways that are actually pretty clever in order to get through this chapter. I am not the target audience for this particular kind of self-indulgent scene, but the readers seem to be eating it up, so...

Time to read some equally self-indulgent scenes of fingers being waved to cause people to explode, dead in body and soul.

Jymmybob
Jun 26, 2000

Grimey Drawer

blastron posted:

Having literally the entire named cast show up to adulate over the protagonist is a little much. I had to constantly remind myself that the fact that Maïne is soooo cuuuute is relevant to the story in ways that are actually pretty clever in order to get through this chapter. I am not the target audience for this particular kind of self-indulgent scene, but the readers seem to be eating it up, so...

Time to read some equally self-indulgent scenes of fingers being waved to cause people to explode, dead in body and soul.

but not before flying through the air like a kite with its string cut

Furious Lobster
Jun 17, 2006

Soiled Meat
Cold glares and snorts abound

Mulva
Sep 13, 2011
It's about time for my once per decade ban for being a consistently terrible poster.

Yinlock posted:

cultivation chat group is absurdly good, and along with not being a sociopathic rear end in a top hat i enjoy how the main character isn't the unprecedented super-master of every single cultivation step

i mean yeah he goes through them pretty quick but he's just above-average, he has to rely on wacky shenanigans and bluffing his rear end off to win fights

also he tends to get dragged into ridiculous adventures by his bored, farmville-addicted seniors which leads to poo poo like initial d tractor dragracing

True Monarch White got teased for a real long time before he showed up, and it's like "Man, I wonder what his deal is going to be?" and then it's like "Yes, that was perfect.". That's pretty drat rare in any novel, let alone by the sketchy standards of web novels.

Yinlock
Oct 22, 2008

Mulva posted:

True Monarch White got teased for a real long time before he showed up, and it's like "Man, I wonder what his deal is going to be?" and then it's like "Yes, that was perfect.". That's pretty drat rare in any novel, let alone by the sketchy standards of web novels.

I loved how all the super-suspicious things everyone said about him were all absolutely true, like he really IS a very kind person who loves to help others

he just also happens to be a godlike being with severe adhd and ridiculous luck that bestows both blessings and disaster in equal measure to everyone around him

e: he's like Daoist Mr Magoo

Yinlock fucked around with this message at 00:35 on Feb 20, 2018

Yinlock
Oct 22, 2008

Furious Lobster posted:

Cold glares and snorts abound

i'm the bystander off to the side who is constantly astonished and vomiting blood

Fallorn
Apr 14, 2005
They vomit blood like an anime character shoots it out their nose.

gimme the GOD DAMN candy
Jul 1, 2007
when they talk about meridians they mean a pipe which sprays high-pressure blood from their mouth at the slightest shock

Yinlock
Oct 22, 2008

whenever i see an astonishing cultivation base i just start barfing red, it's like honking for monster booty

Paracelsus
Apr 6, 2009

bless this post ~kya
True men of culture are only impressed by profound cultivation bases.

Yinlock
Oct 22, 2008

Paracelsus posted:

True men of culture are only impressed by profound cultivation bases.

*raises monocle and barfs blood into wine glass* my word

Megazver
Jan 13, 2006
your annoying memeing is really making my killing intent flare

Cynic Jester
Apr 11, 2009

Let's put a simile on that face
A dazzling simile
Twinkling like the night sky
I wish you'd all stop this conflict. When I observe it, the arms on my chair turn to dust.

Yinlock
Oct 22, 2008

Megazver posted:

your annoying memeing is really making my killing intent flare

sir i didn't mean to offend you

*accidentally kicks dust on one of your 3000 magical treasures from my groveling, your glare immediately separates me and my entire city's population at the atomic level and places each individual atom in a separate hell*

Megazver
Jan 13, 2006

Yinlock posted:

sir i didn't mean to offend you

*accidentally kicks dust on one of your 3000 magical treasures from my groveling, your glare immediately separates me and my entire city's population at the atomic level and places each individual atom in a separate hell*

heh, good one.

Myriad Truths
Oct 13, 2012
I am so shocked by your shamelessness towards the sect that I am also vomiting blood, but metaphorically.

Cynic Jester
Apr 11, 2009

Let's put a simile on that face
A dazzling simile
Twinkling like the night sky

Myriad Truths posted:

I am so shocked by your shamelessness towards the sect that I am also vomiting blood, but metaphorically.

Not figuratively? I mostly find my blood vomit to be figurative.

Jymmybob
Jun 26, 2000

Grimey Drawer

Cynic Jester posted:

I wish you'd all stop this conflict. When I observe it, the arms on my chair turn to dust.

this old man observes from afar with divine sense as my clothes and hair flap silently as if there were wind

SerSpook
Feb 13, 2012




i vomited blood and a drop of it got on a fellow daoist's least valuable treasure, he refined the souls of my entire family to strengthen that treasure as punishment

Cynic Jester
Apr 11, 2009

Let's put a simile on that face
A dazzling simile
Twinkling like the night sky

SerSpook posted:

i vomited blood and a drop of it got on a fellow daoist's least valuable treasure, he refined the souls of my entire family to strengthen that treasure as punishment

At least it was just your family and not the entire city. Rare to see that sort of restraint these days. Back in my days, a few million years ago...

SerSpook
Feb 13, 2012




Cynic Jester posted:

At least it was just your family and not the entire city. Rare to see that sort of restraint these days. Back in my days, a few million years ago...

he was an honorable fellow daoist and a good brother to me

gimme the GOD DAMN candy
Jul 1, 2007
daoist's guide to dating:

find a legendary perfect fairy of whom songs are written. other kinds of women probably don't exist, though.
rape them.
suck out all their value now that they are in love with you, then either ignore them or mourn their tragic death for your sake.
repeat.

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Myriad Truths
Oct 13, 2012
I found the sect elder's missing left sock in the trial by fire and now I've received some heaven defying good fortune.

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