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AnoHito posted:I am of the controversial opinion that a grown adult can consensually gently caress another grown adult if they please. A 19 year old is still growing. Their brain won't be done cooking for a handful of years. The part that's not done yet helps them make choices and understand the consequences of their actions, making them pretty vulnerable still to people who would take advantage of them. 19 is a legal adult, but not really a full grown adult.
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Huntersoninski posted:A 19 year old is still growing. Their brain won't be done cooking for a handful of years. The sheer volume of dumbshit submissions to this subreddit cannot be overstated as evidence proving this beyond all doubt.
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Feb 20, 2018 15:25
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AnoHito posted:I am of the controversial opinion that a grown adult can consensually gently caress another grown adult if they please.
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Feb 20, 2018 15:25
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Huntersoninski posted:A 19 year old is still growing. Their brain won't be done cooking for a handful of years. The part that's not done yet helps them make choices and understand the consequences of their actions, making them pretty vulnerable still to people who would take advantage of them. 19 is a legal adult, but not really a full grown adult. It's one of those "you can do this but you really shouldn't" things. Any 30-something year old who does anything to an 18 or 19 year old knows drat well why what they're doing isn't exactly encouraged.
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Feb 20, 2018 15:27
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AnoHito posted:I am of the controversial opinion that a grown adult can consensually gently caress another grown adult if they please.
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Feb 20, 2018 15:36
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Beachcomber posted:I had a bit of an epiphany. If UBI is ever instituted, a whole lot of manchildren are going to fall down the rabbit hole and never return. I got probated for saying this once so watch out!!
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Feb 20, 2018 16:06
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Chaosfirev posted:It's one of those "you can do this but you really shouldn't" things. Exactly this. It's legal, it's even encouraged by the culture that idolizes Barely Legal Women as the sexiest, but it's hosed up.
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Feb 20, 2018 16:09
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I do really have to wonder about the men who are, say, 40, and I’ve traded in there 40-year-old wife for a 19-year-old. 19-year-olds are fine for what they are, but they’re not really… You know, competent or helpful. And they’re so goddamn hormonal.It sounds exhausting and awful.
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Feb 20, 2018 16:13
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Typically if youre in the market at 40 to actually leave your partner and get some 19 year old girl to be your new thing without it imploding your life youve already got a maid who you also bang.
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Feb 20, 2018 16:21
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I agree, but it’s the imploding your life part I find interesting. I wonder if they realize it is still likely that she will leave when she realizes what she’s done. Or you were just a stepping stone, obligatory Wendi Deng reference
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Feb 20, 2018 16:29
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by the time she leaves she won't be 19 anymore so he won't want her anyway and will seek out a new 19 year old
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Feb 20, 2018 16:34
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InediblePenguin posted:by the time she leaves she won't be 19 anymore so he won't want her anyway and will seek out a new 19 year old By the time they're 95, they're content with a 30, obligatory Sumner Redstone reference.
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Feb 20, 2018 16:36
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speaking of, wow he is still alive
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Feb 20, 2018 16:41
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Pick posted:By the time they're 95, they're content with a 30, obligatory Sumner Redstone reference. 20-30 years younger seems to be the sweet spot for gross dudes in western countries. You rarely see a 50+ year old going for college students, they tend to be happiest with 30-40 year old partners. At least when they want some pretense of this woman being their life partner. In cultures where you're expected to have young lovers in addition to your main wife, they do tend to go younger.
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Feb 20, 2018 16:44
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It really depends on the guy. There are a ton of older mistresses who are very successful who are matched with older guys. It really depends on the circles someone runs in and what the guy feels he is lacking. An older mistress is the woman who is "like a wife, but still fun". The barely-legal is basically just a sex doll. As people become more antisocial and assholish you see more pressure to the latter which I think is a shame, because at least the former rides on a man enjoying making a woman seem to be happy.
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Feb 20, 2018 16:54
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Pick posted:It really depends on the guy. There are a ton of older mistresses who are very successful who are matched with older guys. It really depends on the circles someone runs in and what the guy feels he is lacking. An older mistress is the woman who is "like a wife, but still fun". The barely-legal is basically just a sex doll. As people become more antisocial and assholish you see more pressure to the latter which I think is a shame, because at least the former rides on a man enjoying making a woman seem to be happy. This really removes any autonomy from younger women. They have agency over their choices to make bad decisions the same way gross old men who date women who are subjectively too young. You're projecting your values on them.
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Feb 20, 2018 16:57
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Oscar Wild posted:This really removes any autonomy from younger women. They have agency over their choices to make bad decisions the same way gross old men who date women who are subjectively too young. You're projecting your values on them. Yes I am, I think if they're going after a guy twice their age expecting to be loved and respected, they're dumb as bricks.
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Feb 20, 2018 16:58
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Pick posted:Yes I am, I think if they're going after a guy twice their age expecting to be loved and respected, they're dumb as bricks. But the women deserve the right to make that decision. Besides, deriving self worth from the love and respect of others is foolish. It will lead to disappointment as often as it leads to fulfillment. Loving oneself is the path toward enlightenment.
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Feb 20, 2018 17:08
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it seems like there's at least some contingent of 18-20 year old girls that are well aware that 30+ dudes, however manchildlike, hitting on them is creepy and they'll be the first to call it out, or at least talk about it amongst themselves and all agree that yeah, the 33-year-old driver trying really hard to be "friends" with the 18-year-old cashiers is kind of a creep. they know if it gets to a point that actually makes them uncomfortable they can make it an issue. from the sound of it, dudes being lovely isn't anything new for any of them. idk if the ~8 cashiers between 18 and 25 at work are representative of young women as a whole but they seem to be pretty good at standing up for themselves. it helps when they know people will back them up.
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Feb 20, 2018 17:10
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Oscar Wild posted:But the women deserve the right to make that decision. Besides, deriving self worth from the love and respect of others is foolish. It will lead to disappointment as often as it leads to fulfillment. Loving oneself is the path toward enlightenment. They're dumb and their decision will make them miserable.
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Feb 20, 2018 17:11
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Oscar Wild posted:But the women deserve the right to make that decision. Besides, deriving self worth from the love and respect of others is foolish. It will lead to disappointment as often as it leads to fulfillment. Loving oneself is the path toward enlightenment. Enlightenment is a lie. The only truth is death! Ia! Ia!
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Feb 20, 2018 17:12
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The young women who are mature enough to be in an actual relationship with an older guy are also ambitious enough to intimidate the hell out them
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Feb 20, 2018 17:13
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I'd say that older men at least might actually have steady employment and financial security nowadays, but we get plenty of posts with women who've gone after the hopeless dedicated manchildren, so who the hell knows. Maybe older man don't seem as dumb as young men are, and they only realise later it's just a different kind of idiocy?
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Feb 20, 2018 17:15
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A lot of western society frowns on big age gaps in relationships, cf. this thread generally, and I think that exerts a pressure to moderate/conform. It's when you see old white dudes in like SE Asia that you really see some depressing poo poo. My [17F] brother [13M] has been doing martial arts for years. The kid he was sparing made a sexual comment about me. So my brother split the kids forehead open and my mother wants me to handle it quote:A little back story, I tend to get a lot of attention from men. I am a model and I am aiming to make it my career once I graduate from high school. My brother has been doing various martial arts from a young age. He is well versed in Muay Thai, boxing and Judo. He has just started doing MMA. child brother Frank Castle, so what My married professor [60M] confessed to being in love with me [20F] and it's taking over my life. quote:My advisor was a really close friend, and we'd always have great talks in his office after class. He is also my thesis advisor. I trusted him and thought he believed in me as a student.
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Feb 20, 2018 17:16
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Saying a teenager dating a 30 year old is a bad idea is not removing anybody's sexual agency, it's just saying it's a bad idea. I can fully understand and respect that dating a guy your dad's age is your own choice to make while still thinking it's bad and dumb
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Feb 20, 2018 17:16
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Marrying a younger person is just a way to try to escape growing up a few more years, but whatever put you in the doghouse before will put you in the doghouse again when she grows up, so you have a sweet spot of a few years at best before the one thing about your life that didn't implode, implodes. The alternative is even worse: she never grows up, and you either have to double-much grow up, or you two end up looking like the desert after Burning Man while you try to tag-team shoplift a bag of grapes. This may shock you, but HIMYM lied to you. There isn't a "perfect person" out there who 100% loves all your crap.
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Feb 20, 2018 17:17
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According to HIMYM the perfect person for you dies and then you end up married to a bitchy Canadian
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Feb 20, 2018 17:21
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girl pants posted:According to HIMYM the perfect person for you dies and then you end up married to a bitchy Canadian No no the random person wasn't perfect for him because he pined for a bitchy Canadian the entire time. obviously. she was just an unseen baby vessel, as it every woman who is not... the one
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Feb 20, 2018 17:22
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My women friends who have dated older men usually go through the whole thing like any other relationship. In my opinion, they seem to be more transactional relationships than ones where they the couple are closer in age. I don't see too much wrong with it. People must have the freedom to make choices. "Experience keeps a dear school, but fools will learn in no other." Benjamin Franklin
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Feb 20, 2018 17:23
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No one's arguing about freedom just about what constitutes being a dipshit. It's also no crime to pour oatmeal down your pants during a job interview and no one's saying it's a good idea.
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Feb 20, 2018 17:24
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Pick posted:No one's arguing about freedom just about what constitutes being a dipshit. It's also no crime to pour oatmeal down your pants during a job interview and no one's saying it's a good idea. Quaker Oats Upper Management: Hey kid, you've got moxie. You're hired!
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Feb 20, 2018 17:26
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It also depends a bit on what the age gap is, like 25 to 35+ is something this thread would usually frown on (particularly cause the older dude is always a giant manchild) but I've seen it happen a couple times irl and the older dude was just an in shape good looking guy with his poo poo together and was ostensibly only still single because his active career had made it difficult to settle down.
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Feb 20, 2018 17:26
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Pick posted:They're dumb and their decision will make them miserable. But they have an old soul
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Feb 20, 2018 17:28
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Jeza posted:Quaker Oats Upper Management: Hey kid, you've got moxie. You're hired! Not so fast. I have a competing job offer from Moxie
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ArbitraryC posted:It also depends a bit on what the age gap is, like 25 to 35+ is something this thread would usually frown on (particularly cause the older dude is always a giant manchild) but I've seen it happen a couple times irl and the older dude was just an in shape good looking guy with his poo poo together and was ostensibly only still single because his active career had made it difficult to settle down. 
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Feb 20, 2018 17:30
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I'm dating an older women actually, makes more sense that way as our life expediencies sync up better. Gotta play for the long game.
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Feb 20, 2018 17:31
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Jeza posted:A lot of western society frowns on big age gaps in relationships, cf. this thread generally, and I think that exerts a pressure to moderate/conform. It's when you see old white dudes in like SE Asia that you really see some depressing poo poo. Jeza posted:My married professor [60M] confessed to being in love with me [20F] and it's taking over my life. Destroy his life. You have decades in front of you that you have tons of opportunity in.
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Feb 20, 2018 17:31
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Jeza posted:A lot of western society frowns on big age gaps in relationships, cf. this thread generally, and I think that exerts a pressure to moderate/conform. It's when you see old white dudes in like SE Asia that you really see some depressing poo poo. Way to go, mom. Make your teenage daughter do your job as a parent and insinuate blame on her for a thirteen year old boy who wants to be inappropriately gross about how she looks. Parent of the year over here.
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Feb 20, 2018 17:32
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Jeza posted:My [17F] brother [13M] has been doing martial arts for years. The kid he was sparing made a sexual comment about me. So my brother split the kids forehead open and my mother wants me to handle it Talk poo poo, get hit. 
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Long distance ex potential boyfriend (23M) blocked me (22F) everywhere because I said that we need to communicate better. I was gonna fly actoss the ocean to visit him. Am i missing something? Is it his meth addiction kicking in?quote:As usual, long time lurker first time poster. now you get to go to japan without having to deal with this guy
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