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We currently have no aircraft with weapons on them. None at all. "Airforce" guys are just surveillance goons. edit: ooh new page, lovely; was talking about NZ. Content! My MiL has had a few Chinese families down for a sort-of exchange program, where they pay mad money for the elementary school kids to come down for a month, and they live in a homestay near the school. First family was great! Discreet, caring, and their kid was lovely, well behaved, and having a blast in MiL's super huge back yard & garden (mini forest in their eyes). They're still in touch and sending cards. Second lot come in, and it's two Mom's with 3 kids. I'm there daily, cooking dinner for everyone just to lend a hand. They... are reinforcing a lot of stereotypes that this thread has been telling me about. -Neither mom can cook for poo poo (one can make a "Salty pancake" which is just eggs flour and half a veg in the pan, the other knows fried white rice. That's IT.), which is odd for moms with non-baby children, but it makes it super easy to impress them with lazy dishes like Shepard's pie. They apparently just get out daily back home. -Both husbands are absent, busy working away for 6mo/year. I was about to crack a good-natured joke about having a mistress before I remembered this thread and bit my tongue. -One mom has twins, 6y, and openly laments having kids. (!!) The girl is quiet and nice, the boy is vastly more rowdy but still nice, but... -The other mom has a single child who is a monster half-made. I'd say about 8ish? Kid will not take no for an answer, throws tantrums regarding homework, and is basically the little emperor I've been hearing about. I've actually had to use "angry adult male" voice to get him to respect boundaries with the food prep. I don't think I've ever used that voice with a child before  -Speaking of boundries, the kids have NONE. Male twin likes pawing through MiL's cabinets, but it's a minor issue. Solo child demands attention at all times, under various guises, and will physically push himself into the way. When told no, his refrain is "But I WANT to!" over and over. his mom got a good laugh when I told him you don't always get what you want. I don't think he gets that at home... -Can someone enlighten me to what the domestic dinner routine is up in China? Everywhere else in the world, from Finland to Argentina to black South Africa, dinner means sit down and eat. With these two families, it's worse than herding cats. Table will be set with steaming food on it, and neither family could give a poo poo? They keep getting up and wandering around the house. It's puzzling, the kids where just moments ago grizzling about being hungry, and usually you'd have to fight to keep their hands out of the grub. Cue MiL, myself, and Finnish house guests looking at each other bemused around the dinner table. I have no farking idea. -Lastly, MiL has taken it on her nanny self to get the kids to leave their poor parents alone during dinner, for five minutes. She acts like a nanny, and intercepts all children trying to be sneaky. She works with disadvantaged families, it's pretty cool seeing her set boundaries, call bluffs and basically be a gentle force of [good-parenting] nature. Oh, btw. The solo mom of mister emperor? She slaps him and verbally berates him for ages till he cries. Over homework. He's 8. I don't think MiL will be taking another family after this. Serephina fucked around with this message at 08:12 on Feb 21, 2018 |
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EimiYoshikawa posted:Hell, I've even had that stray thought a time or two, myself, the last few years ("China wouldn't ever REALLY just be able to take us over wholesale, America, at the least, would never stand for it..."). The tuhao have shown zero willingness to adapt to the new country, preferring to create strict bubbles controlled by their true government and their own culture. Over time they can put pressure on schools to bend to their wishes (already happening), make safe-spaces for their tantrums and get the host country's culture to bend to them (already happening), influence politics or politicians to bend to them and their lifestyles and companies (already happening), and do their best to divide everything into the typical Mainland Chinese "us versus them" mentality, where the "them" are the residents of the host country they use for their offshore bank accounts and houses. If there ever was a problem, they'd just go back to one of the houses they own back in China and wash their hands of the place. It hasn't even been that long since this started happening, but imagine how it will be twenty years later if things go on in the same way at the same rate (or even higher rate). You can't even bring up anything about China with Western people without them crying racism and getting butthurt that China doesn't have 5000 years of something and kung fu pandas and everyone following some mystical ancient magic in their daily lives. The newer generations, no matter how dicked over they might be over it, will get upset at someone calling out the flood of Mainlanders and their influence as racism and prejudice. It's not long before more and more politicians will find themselves being courted by attractive Mainland women and marrying them, lol. "It's just their culture! You can't say anything about it! Chinese love to give gifts on holidays. This new yacht and $3m in my bank account has nothing to do with my decision on passing X legislation favoring foreign interests and stakes in our economy and resources." Australia too, from what I understand. Wait, now I am racist.
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angel opportunity posted:It seems really weird to me that–in general–people are allowed to buy houses or property in countries they aren't citizens of. Like...I can see how it could be seen as xenophobic, but if you aren't at least making real steps toward being a citizen, why do you need to OWN a house or apartment in a foreign country? I understand the idea of "it makes money for rich people" to allow it, but it prices so many people out of cities and horribly inflates the housing prices in places that are considered "good to live in" like Vancouver and NYC etc. This is coming up in Finland too after Putin and a buncha russians have been hoovering up land, I honestly didn't know we allowed poo poo like this.
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Grandma Panic! posted:globalism good No it bad.
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I just realized the page number. Gents, we have reached the MACAO CASINO SLOT MACHINE WINNER PAGE!
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Such a lucky page to be posting in!
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I teach History in Thailand. Our History program is more or less an afterthought. Students get it for one year and it tries to cover the entire histories of China, India, and Southeast Asia in one period a week. We're deep into second term and we've only just established that kingdoms have capital cities. As a concept checking question, I asked students to name modern capital cities. The usual "New York" and "Massachusetts"(???) got thrown around, but without fail someone in every class said "Taipei". This caused other students to say, "How can Taiwan have a capital if it's just part of China?" Trust me, these students are nowhere near globally aware enough to realize that a state/province could have an administrative capital separate from the national capital. I gleefully replied that it was in fact an independent nation with its own army, currency, passports, and yes, capital city. The students asked why the Chinese department always said Taiwan was a part of China. My lesson then became about propaganda.
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Serephina posted:-Can someone enlighten me to what the domestic dinner routine is up in China? Everywhere else in the world, from Finland to Argentina to black South Africa, dinner means sit down and eat. With these two families, it's worse than herding cats. Table will be set with steaming food on it, and neither family could give a poo poo? They keep getting up and wandering around the house. It's puzzling, the kids where just moments ago grizzling about being hungry, and usually you'd have to fight to keep their hands out of the grub. Cue MiL, myself, and Finnish house guests looking at each other bemused around the dinner table. I have no farking idea. You make food whenever and leave it out on the kitchen countertop for however many hours until it's officially dinner time. There seems to be no concept of food being better when fresh/hot or anything like that. Even when it's something deep fried or a pancake that turns from amazing to garbage in 15 minutes, it just sits there. I had a friend whose Korean grandmother in law was leaving a pot of boiled crabs and crab juice on the stove for literally days, just sitting there rotting, and would talk in Korean about how "the foreigner doesn't like crab" because he refused three day old room temperature crab juice when it was offered. There was a fridge next to the stove.
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https://youtu.be/prwUIBqOvSs how fresh does the food taste when the animal is left alive? has anyone tasted these wonderful takes on meat and fish dishes which blur the line between living and dead food? my favourite i would love to try is monkey brain which includes eating the brains of a live monkey. delicious, i would certainly want to try that.
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Grand Fromage posted:You make food whenever and leave it out on the kitchen countertop for however many hours until it's officially dinner time. There seems to be no concept of food being better when fresh/hot or anything like that. Even when it's something deep fried or a pancake that turns from amazing to garbage in 15 minutes, it just sits there. Well duh, food doesn't go bad because of warm temperatures, bacteria or any of this western nonsense. Food goes bad when it's qi expires and there's nothing you can do to prevent that, so why even try. Why don't you have a rest.
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Fututor Magnus posted:https://youtu.be/prwUIBqOvSs I love meat, but this is actually horrifying. The fish at the end that is still trying to breathe after it has been gutted and cooked almost made me vomit. Jesus.
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Dravs posted:I love meat, but this is actually horrifying. The fish at the end that is still trying to breathe after it has been gutted and cooked almost made me vomit. Jesus. eh, you're just prejudiced against chinese culture. i for one think that contrast of crispy-fried exterior and still-living interior would be really interesting to bit into, and that level of freshness you can't beat. and here's a video of that fresh living monkey brain being consumed [might be a little  ] https://youtu.be/CS1fvgcnMRothat makes me really curious for how that might taste, closest we can go to being a zombie Fututor Magnus fucked around with this message at 15:59 on Feb 21, 2018 |
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Feb 21, 2018 15:56
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Eating live or cooked Monkey brains is a pretty good way to get a Prion disease. The monkey brain eats you!
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Fututor Magnus posted:that makes me really curious for how that might taste, closest we can go to being a zombie If the instantaneous swig of beer after the bite is any indication, I'm guessing that it tastes like poo poo.
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That live animal cooking contest is sick. Of course most of the comments are along the lines of "not every chinese person cooks like this!!!", as if that somehow renders all criticism invalid.
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i half expect the gray cat to look at the camera and start dropping this humongous smile because holy crap does he look like happycat
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Bajaj posted:IMO, the thing is that I think it's not so much that China can directly take over, but they can zerg rush and influence the country so much that after a period of time China can dip its tentacles in and nobody can do anything about it until something extremely drastic happens. Ugh, yeah, that was more or less what I meant, too. The thing is, too, that when I see this stuff happening, like, really obviously, when it comes up in the national news here, and I try to explain some of it to my mother, for instance, I really do feel like a racist sometimes, because you pretty much have to attribute sweeping statements of behavior to such a sizeable population of immigrants (except most of them aren't even really immigrants, they're just 'here with money for ??? amount of time'), and almost everything I have to bring up or explain is negative, and it drat well does feel racist...even though I'm just explaining the actual facts of the matter at hand here.
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EimiYoshikawa posted:Ugh, yeah, that was more or less what I meant, too. If you spend any time surrounded by an 'other' culture that has a lot of negative points you end up becoming a racist tool if you don't make the conscious descision to overlook/ignore/accept those things. It's just how the human mind works. I've traveled a lot and am very conscious (imo) of Australian racist bullshit and try to call people out making stupid jokes when I'm home. A co-worker and I once worked at a remote outback location for a week or two one and went from 'hmm yes the locals have a few problems but ok whatever' on day one to driving to the airstrip and saying to ourselves 'Oh gently caress we seriously need to reset our brains before we get on the plane because we've really become the most racists assholes and this is not cool at all'.
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Yeah as much as they say racism comes from ignorance, it also comes from familiarity. Although in the later case it's more... I don't know, culturism? When you really get to know a culture and realize some of its norms drive you up the loving wall. I loving can't stand how flakey west coast north americans can be, mainland chinese face culture and patriotism, Australian racism and chauvinism, eastern european driving culture, German anti-nuclear hysteria, American urban planning and infrastructure ideology, Korea work culture, Canadian smugness entire self-worth being wrapped around being marginally less bad than the US, and so on and so on. Is all that racism or fair cultural impressions and criticisms?
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Outrail posted:A co-worker and I once worked at a remote outback location for a week or two one and went from 'hmm yes the locals have a few problems but ok whatever' on day one to driving to the airstrip and saying to ourselves 'Oh gently caress we seriously need to reset our brains before we get on the plane because we've really become the most racists assholes and this is not cool at all'. That was me working in two different First Nations School boards. By the end of my two contracts I had to basically forget everything I had seen, heard, and experienced because nobody would believe that it actually happened, and would just assume I was a massive racist making up poo poo. I was going to do a thread about my 6 years in the system, but realized that this is SA and nothing good would come from it. Baronjutter posted:Canadian smugness entire self-worth being wrapped around being marginally less bad than the US I've said it before, but I would 9/10 times rather run into an American abroad than a Canadian. In Korea/China it was always the Canadians being the loud, ignorant cunts, complaining about Americans being loud ignorant cunts. Americans on the other hand were more interested in having a good time and not worrying about some bullshit pissing contest. Canadians are the Koreans for North America.
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Blistex posted:That was me working in two different First Nations School boards. By the end of my two contracts I had to basically forget everything I had seen, heard, and experienced because nobody would believe that it actually happened, and would just assume I was a massive racist making up poo poo. I was going to do a thread about my 6 years in the system, but realized that this is SA and nothing good would come from it. My thinking is people travel to get away from their homes. So it's usually the more good and cool Americans who get their passports and gently caress off out of the hellscape. But if your country is already mostly good and cool then you just get regular tits on holiday. Except Australians who're 90% racist drunk assholes and Israelis who're 90% rear end in a top hat kids who just got out of the compulsory military service.
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Blistex posted:That was me working in two different First Nations School boards. By the end of my two contracts I had to basically forget everything I had seen, heard, and experienced because nobody would believe that it actually happened, and would just assume I was a massive racist making up poo poo. I was going to do a thread about my 6 years in the system, but realized that this is SA and nothing good would come from it. I'd still love for you to do this thread, I've always been very interested in first-nations issues in Canada and think your thread could be totally respectful and not at all a poo poo-show if handled well.
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Baronjutter posted:I'd still love for you to do this thread, I've always been very interested in first-nations issues in Canada and think your thread could be totally respectful and not at all a poo poo-show if handled well. It'd be great but LOL. We could have a maturely handled India thread
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there's a lot of loud slob Americans abroad, but you run into a lot more of them on package vacation deals and cruises where everything is done for you and literally the only thing you had to do was pay the money to get the ticket. so yeah you can see grease-marked idiots that should probably be on My 600lb Life but they're likely to be hyper-concentrated in walled resorts where the idea is less to keep others out and more to keep those blights in. i saw more terrible American slobs on the one cruise i've been on than the half-dozen times i've gone abroad otherwise. as a result, when you meet an American walking around and actually traveling rather than vacationing abroad, they're more likely to be cats who are desensitized to that sort of chintzy marketing and don't mind a bit of their own planning and prioritizing what's actually important to them - which typically isn't smearing their flag in someone's face. in other western countries where those sorts of McVacations aren't as 'normal' like Canada and France you don't have that sort of filter and consequently you'll have relatively more expats walking around, making GBS threads their nationality on a far corner of the planet and displaying nationalistic napoleon complexes to anyone within earshot. Coolguye fucked around with this message at 22:06 on Feb 21, 2018 |
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Serephina posted:-Can someone enlighten me to what the domestic dinner routine is up in China? Most commonly, there is none. Until primary school age, children are typically cared for by their grandparents, who will cook food hours beforehand, and then leave it until the child asks. Then througout primary school & high school (which starts at 7am), breakfast & lunch are either provided through the school, local snack stalls or through any number of local entrepreneurs who open their kitchens and cook meals for local children for a monthly fee on an "all-you-can-eat" basis. School finishes around 6pm, and the children that return home will grab a quick meal specifically cooked for them to eat alone, before studying until 10pm, while the father is absent, and the mother is running a business, or is simply too tired to cope with having a kid. Eating as a family happens roughly twice a year during festivals. Children aren't taught to cook by their families, time is instead focused on what will benefit them academically. Nor are children taught anything about nutrition in school. Buying meals locally is so cheap and saves so much time, that it's a very rational decision for most families. This doesn't cover all families, and the migrants I interact with are so shocked by the high prices of fresh food and vegetables, never mind restaurant food, that it forces changes in behaviour. I wonder if we would be so judgemental about home cooked food being best, if we lived in places where it saved us real time and money to eat out daily?
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owning my own business, that's frequently the question i have to ask myself. is there something i can do that's worth more than the 10 extra dollars it would cost for me to just call out to some place and have them deliver food? if the answer's yes, i'll order food and keep working. the answer is almost always yes.
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Bajaj posted:IMO, the thing is that I think it's not so much that China can directly take over, but they can zerg rush and influence the country so much that after a period of time China can dip its tentacles in and nobody can do anything about it until something extremely drastic happens. They will hold app the chips and can threaten to pop bubbles or stocks, etc., to get what they want. Money always talks, and nobody can deny that things probably won't change because people are getting their share of the money and don't want it to stop flooding in. The more Mainlanders that come, the more closer these people are going to get or endear themselves to politics with their own or CCP-backed "contributions." 
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Baronjutter posted:I'd still love for you to do this thread, I've always been very interested in first-nations issues in Canada and think your thread could be totally respectful and not at all a poo poo-show if handled well. It could possibly happen, but not until I have tenure at my school board, which I will find out about in a 2-4 months. I've already had a goon phone my place of work a few years ago (back when helldump was up and running), and it could have ended in disaster.
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Blistex posted:It could possibly happen, but not until I have tenure at my school board, which I will find out about in a 2-4 months. I've already had a goon phone my place of work a few years ago (back when helldump was up and running), and it could have ended in disaster. Right, I often totally underestimate how horrible people can be. I could see someone going insane and buying you a racist redtitle with a picture of residential school abuse victims saying "indians aren't fit to run their own schools" and then going on a whole doxxing campaign because you said a particular reserve's school board was corrupt or discriminatory.
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Baronjutter posted:Right, I often totally underestimate how horrible people can be. I could see someone going insane and buying you a racist redtitle with a picture of residential school abuse victims saying "indians aren't fit to run their own schools" and then going on a whole doxxing campaign because you said a particular reserve's school board was corrupt or discriminatory. whoa whoa whoa let's tone down the racism, guy
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If someone who wasn't you happened to write an offsite blog about their experiences in a similar situation that would also be interesting to read.
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hailthefish posted:If someone who wasn't you happened to write an offsite blog about their experiences in a similar situation that would also be interesting to read. "You know Canada had genocide? Stop talking Tibet!" 
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Bajaj posted:Australia too, from what I understand. Well, you should apologize! ABC News, 25 May 2017 posted:Victoria's Premier has apologised to the state's Chinese community for the racism and unjust policies their ancestors endured during Australia's gold rush era. I wonder how new immigrants feel about their government apologizing on their behalf for stuff done a century ago?
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