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| Independence Day 2: Resturgeonce |
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44 | 21.36% |
| ScotPol - Unclustering this gently caress |
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19 | 9.22% |
| Trainspotting 2: Independence is my heroin |
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9 | 4.37% |
| Indyref II: Boris hosed a Dead Country |
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14 | 6.80% |
| ScotPol: Wings over Bullshit |
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8 | 3.88% |
| Independence 2: Cameron Lied, UK Died |
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24 | 11.65% |
| Scotpol IV: I Vow To Flee My Country |
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14 | 6.80% |
| ScotPol - A twice in a generation thread |
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17 | 8.25% |
| ScotPol - Where Everything's hosed Up and the Referendums Don't Matter |
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15 | 7.28% |
| ScotPol Thread: Dependence Referendum Incoming |
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2 | 0.97% |
| Indyref II: The Scottish Insturgeoncy |
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10 | 4.85% |
| ScotPol Thread: Act of European Union |
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5 | 2.43% |
| ScotPol - Like Game of Thrones only we wish we would all die |
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25 | 12.14% |
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-west-43078340quote:A Scottish council is planning to provide school meals 365 days a year to children from low income families. good solid socialism in action from scottish labour. it'll be interesting to see how the SNP respond. although they're the opposition there it's very tight. they've as many councillors as the labour minority.
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Cerv posted:http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-west-43078340 This is a really good policy, both in terms of utility and, more partisan, in terms of political optics. It's difficult to find anyone who disagrees with feeding kids (even most tories ), and the link between nutrition/eating habits and behaviour has some decent evidence behind it IIRC. Anecdotally, I know teachers and social workers who think similar schemes like breakfast clubs are fantastic, and get very irate about them being cut due to lack of funding
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Feb 16, 2018 21:10
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now that is more fuckin like it
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Feb 16, 2018 21:44
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Scotlab.. not poo poo?? :itshappening:
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Feb 16, 2018 22:38
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Harrumph the SNP are trialling UBI gneh Nah this is some good poo poo, I hope other councils follow suit and SLabour becomes less poo poo.
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Feb 17, 2018 01:02
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Coohoolin posted:Harrumph the SNP are trialling UBI gneh It's Labour councils trialling it, not SNP. The SNP only posted a motion in favour of it, but of course they said they could not do it while Scotland labours under the Hated English Yoke (TM).
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Feb 17, 2018 02:42
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Jedit posted:It's Labour councils trialling it, not SNP. The SNP only posted a motion in favour of it, but of course they said they could not do it while Scotland labours under the Hated English Yoke (TM). Think you're misreading Coohoolin here; the harumphing is ironic (unless I'm way, way off)
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Feb 17, 2018 02:51
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No it was ironic. Jesus I'm not even an SNP member anymore, haven't been for ages, geez a break. Edit: although if the SNP are in favour of UBI and it's being piloted by Labour Councils hopefully it can be the start of the parties actually working together, instead of being constantly at each other's throat. Coohoolin fucked around with this message at 02:55 on Feb 17, 2018 |
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Feb 17, 2018 02:53
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Jedit posted:It's Labour councils trialling it, not SNP. The SNP only posted a motion in favour of it, but of course they said they could not do it while Scotland labours under the Hated English Yoke (TM). That article is out of date. Glasgow is now an SNP minority council and Fife is run by an SNP-Labour coalition. To my knowledge, neither have cancelled the UBI trails following the change in administration.
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Feb 17, 2018 04:54
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Leggsy posted:That article is out of date. Glasgow is now an SNP minority council and Fife is run by an SNP-Labour coalition. To my knowledge, neither have cancelled the UBI trails following the change in administration. Can you imagine the effect if they did? "Thanks for electing us to run one of the poorest and most deprived areas of Scotland. We promise to do our best for you. So, forget about that five grand the last administration were going to give you; when Scotland is free you won't need it." There wouldn't be an SNP voter left in the city. Also gently caress the SNP, they gerrymandered their way to victory in Glasgow and in the process gave seven council seats to the Tories.
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Feb 17, 2018 12:37
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Ah yes, the SNP "gerrymandered" their way to victory... by beating Labour by 10% in first preferences  . Also if anything, the Tories were under represented compared to their vote share, considering they beat the Greens by almost 6% and only secured one extra seat. Though I would account that to unfavourable transfers. I literally can't find any proof (or even an accusation) of gerrymandering in Glasgow, or any other council for that matter. I literally have no idea where you could even conceivably begin a gerrymandering narrative other than a routine boundary review that passed without incident in 2016.
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Feb 17, 2018 16:12
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If we're comparing councils than I'm happy to refer you the Labour shitshow at ACC, for ever and always.
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Feb 17, 2018 16:19
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Leggsy posted:Ah yes, the SNP "gerrymandered" their way to victory... by beating Labour by 10% in first preferences Take a look at the 2012-17 changes. Every seat removed by the changes was a Labour seat.
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Feb 18, 2018 11:28
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Jedit posted:Take a look at the 2012-17 changes. Every seat removed by the changes was a Labour seat. Utter nonsense.
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Feb 18, 2018 12:41
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Jedit posted:Take a look at the 2012-17 changes. Every seat removed by the changes was a Labour seat. Considering the review increased the number of overall seats by 6, I heavily doubt that. As well as this, you would have to be contending that the final results were not proportional, which they pretty much were. Otherwise you have to be arguing for partisan gerrymandering in Labours favour for your argument to make sense. EDIT: Taking a cursory look at the wards where seat numbers were reduced from 4 to 3, the SNP/Greens/Lib-Dems would have been favourites to take the 4th available seat anyway. So if I were feeling especially disingenuous, I could argue that the evil, possibly NWO-linked and politically independent boundary commission were gerrymandering against the SNP. Leggsy fucked around with this message at 15:38 on Feb 18, 2018 |
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Feb 18, 2018 15:13
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Bit of good news: Hundreds of rough sleepers in Scotland to be offered homes. I've no idea how the Social Bite charity managed to get such a big profile, but they do great work, and housing first seems like an excellent idea. Purely anecdotally I've noticed a big jump in rough sleepers in glasgow and Edinburgh the last couple of years, and it can't just be coincidence that it maps to both the cuts to benefits (and roll out of UC) and huge cuts to council budgets that directly impact support services
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Feb 21, 2018 09:27
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Niric posted:Bit of good news: Hundreds of rough sleepers in Scotland to be offered homes. I've no idea how the Social Bite charity managed to get such a big profile, but they do great work, and housing first seems like an excellent idea. Purely anecdotally I've noticed a big jump in rough sleepers in glasgow and Edinburgh the last couple of years, and it can't just be coincidence that it maps to both the cuts to benefits (and roll out of UC) and huge cuts to council budgets that directly impact support services If you want a bit of background on Social Bite I can help a little, I've met Josh Littlejohn and my wife has worked with them. Basically Josh Littlejohn has a millionaire father, dicked around a bit, setting up the Scottish Business Awards and making the connection with Tom Hunter. Josh became a bit obsessed with Muhammad Yunus, the guy who developed micro-lending. After he brought him to Scotland to talk Josh and his girlfriend Alice sold everything including their house to put everything into Social Bite. The profile comes from the fact that Josh knows Tom Hunter, who was already working with Bill Clinton, George Clooney, Leonardo DiCaprio etc which is why you've seem them in and around Social Bite shops. He's passionate and committed and a great salesman so he can get people on board, and he's got the connections which means he gets to meet people to get them on board. His salary is capped at 7 times his lowest paid employee as well which is a good model for any business.
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Feb 21, 2018 11:40
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Aramoro posted:If you want a bit of background on Social Bite I can help a little, I've met Josh Littlejohn and my wife has worked with them. Basically Josh Littlejohn has a millionaire father, dicked around a bit, setting up the Scottish Business Awards and making the connection with Tom Hunter. Josh became a bit obsessed with Muhammad Yunus, the guy who developed micro-lending. After he brought him to Scotland to talk Josh and his girlfriend Alice sold everything including their house to put everything into Social Bite. The profile comes from the fact that Josh knows Tom Hunter, who was already working with Bill Clinton, George Clooney, Leonardo DiCaprio etc which is why you've seem them in and around Social Bite shops. He's passionate and committed and a great salesman so he can get people on board, and he's got the connections which means he gets to meet people to get them on board. Thanks, that's really interesting! Seems like a sound guy, could do with a lot more entrepreneurs like that
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Feb 21, 2018 17:44
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https://twitter.com/LabourRichard/status/968928999811543040 Dick Leonard actually being cool - I'm down.
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Feb 28, 2018 21:51
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PSA: I have previously called Gordon Munro a good een. I have been informed that he is actually a lizard in a very well fit person suit.
KOGAHAZAN!! fucked around with this message at 23:05 on Mar 9, 2018 |
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Mar 9, 2018 18:19
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Who? I just get LinkedIn profiles when I look up that name.
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Mar 9, 2018 22:28
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https://twitter.com/newsundayherald/status/982730366992748544?s=19 Will be interesting to read this tomorrow but it sure sounds like Sturgeon's advisers want to make a rightwards turn so that hopefully leads to a ScotLab resurrection, ideally with less Blair McDougall and Jackie Baillie. Sure hope SNP don't hold the central belt if they do intend tacking right (especially as they haven't been particularly lefty economically as it is) to win back Teuchter fishermen and farmers.
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Apr 8, 2018 00:21
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Did anybody from this thread take part in yesterday’s pro-independence bridge protests?
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Apr 8, 2018 08:22
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I'm on my way back from Glasgow where my bluegrass band played a gig in the Grand Ole Opry last night, and Jesus christ I'm still uneasy about it. It was all a bit cosplay-ish, with people in stetsons and prairie dresses and whatnot, and I guess the quickdraw competition was interesting (either special loud competition revolvers or actual revolvers loaded with blanks) but fuuuuckkk. After our three sets the venue had a ceremony where they raised a confederate flag and saluted it by firing guns in the air. Wtf Govan.
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Apr 8, 2018 13:06
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Govan is bad.
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Apr 8, 2018 13:22
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Coohoolin posted:I'm on my way back from Glasgow where my bluegrass band played a gig in the Grand Ole Opry last night, and Jesus christ I'm still uneasy about it. It was all a bit cosplay-ish, with people in stetsons and prairie dresses and whatnot, and I guess the quickdraw competition was interesting (either special loud competition revolvers or actual revolvers loaded with blanks) but fuuuuckkk. After our three sets the venue had a ceremony where they raised a confederate flag and saluted it by firing guns in the air. The Grand Ole Opry is the weirdest place. But drinks are insanely cheap, plus there's bingo. It's also an odd mix of punters: a lot of students, stag/hen dos and people laughing at the whole thing, and then those who take it really, really seriously. Not been in a few years, but the quick draw and confederate flag stuff is a regular feature. It's bizarre, but an interesting night out
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Apr 8, 2018 16:17
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Niric posted:The Grand Ole Opry is the weirdest place. But drinks are insanely cheap, plus there's bingo. It's also an odd mix of punters: a lot of students, stag/hen dos and people laughing at the whole thing, and then those who take it really, really seriously. Not been in a few years, but the quick draw and confederate flag stuff is a regular feature. It's bizarre, but an interesting night out It was a bit fuckin nuts eh. Drinks were handily cheap, aye, although the Best wasn't exactly %100.
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Apr 8, 2018 18:21
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forkboy84 posted:https://twitter.com/newsundayherald/status/982730366992748544?s=19 Unfortunately there's not an awful lot of detail in the full Herald story today, so it's hard to get a handle on this beyond a vague New Labourish vibe. Which might be the end result in a way, if this is less about substantial policy choices and more about signalling direction. The change of focus from Ireland/Norway makes sense from a tactical perspective though: I don't think anyone ever really bought the celtic tiger guff, and Scotland being the new Norway was always a ridiculous claim. Looking for a different model is understandable, and it works to the SNP's benefit that new Zealand is generally under the radar: no one is going to hear "the new Zealand model" and immediately think of neoliberalism. The intra-party tensions might be be mildly interesting and if it does genuinely lead to a substantial policy platform for an independent Scotland that'd be something important, but frankly I can't see that happening any time soon
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Apr 8, 2018 21:33
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Scottish Resistance are back, huzzah for loonies. https://twitter.com/alasdair_clark/status/985533049671700481?s=19 https://twitter.com/alasdair_clark/status/985536645423423491?s=19 For the life of me I don't know why they felt they had to report it in England. Probably some casual racism?
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Apr 15, 2018 16:17
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maybe they've seen the state of Police Scotland and decided they'd get a quicker response over the border
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Apr 15, 2018 22:34
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forkboy84 posted:For the life of me I don't know why they felt they had to report it in England. Probably some casual racism? Because she's the Prime Minister of England, silly, not Scotland.
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Apr 16, 2018 01:00
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Jedit posted:Because she's the Prime Minister of England, silly, not Scotland. Yeah, you're probably right.
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Apr 16, 2018 08:13
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This isn't political, its just funny. https://twitter.com/fredmcneill/status/986737931661529088 e: Eh, I guess its kinda political. Not Operator fucked around with this message at 12:50 on Apr 19, 2018 |
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Apr 19, 2018 12:47
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Not Operator posted:This isn't political, its just funny. That twitter account is locked now, what did it say?
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Apr 19, 2018 17:29
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Angepain posted:That twitter account is locked now, what did it say? It was folk moaning that Whole Foods in Giffnock was becoming a Lidl not and M&S as they had hoped. https://www.glasgowlive.co.uk/news/glasgow-news/bring-cheap-juice-slovakia-giffnock-14549060 https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/news/2525691/giffnock-angry-lidl-wholefoods-vermin-degenerates/ quote:"Stores like this attract the degenerates of society. I understand that they need to shop somewhere however you didn't see benefit cheats, single mothers and their feral brood flock to Whole Foods." chamring.
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Apr 19, 2018 17:33
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Aramoro posted:It was folk moaning that Whole Foods in Giffnock was becoming a Lidl not and M&S as they had hoped. Someone also mentioned vermin, as I recall.
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Apr 19, 2018 17:44
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Aramoro posted:It was folk moaning that Whole Foods in Giffnock was becoming a Lidl not and M&S as they had hoped. It was this yeah, but to be clear that account I linked wasn't one of the affluent people moaning, he screen-capped a bunch of pearl clutching facebook posts of people lamenting this as the saddest thing to happen all year, or talking about complaining to the council.
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Apr 19, 2018 17:53
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Saw the Social Security (Scotland) bill past and also that the Nats voted with Tories to stop a Labour amendment to increase child benefit payments by a fiver which seems bad. At least the Green amendment to ban unnecessary medical assessments for disability benefit claimants is a humane step. Not actually sure all the benefits covered by this, except it's not for the unemployed. Presumably that was something Westminster refused to devolve?
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Apr 25, 2018 20:53
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forkboy84 posted:Saw the Social Security (Scotland) bill past and also that the Nats voted with Tories to stop a Labour amendment to increase child benefit payments by a fiver which seems bad. At least the Green amendment to ban unnecessary medical assessments for disability benefit claimants is a humane step. Scottish Government got some local amendments to Universal Credit, although I think that all that amounts to is making more front-and-centre some options that are already catered for eg frequency of payments, paying landlords directly Edit: to be a bit clearer, UC has inbuilt flexibility on certain matters, but only accessible by DWP staff. In Scotland those options are offered to every claimant through the UC journal system. TheHoodedClaw fucked around with this message at 22:43 on Apr 25, 2018 |
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Apr 25, 2018 22:38
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How much longer can UC even survive? Or is it just sunk cost at this point means we're stuck with it despite it being the dumbest idea since ID cards?
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