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I always assumed once the Emmalina thing was nixed, Emma's future wasn't very good in WWE. It was obvious they were never gonna elevate her to a main event level, so why keep going with it? BTW, AIW is running Emma vs Britt this Friday in Cleveland. I am going to that, and I am pretty excited. Emma seems to really be going all in with these indie bookings so far, so my hopes are high.
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# ? Feb 20, 2018 00:33 |
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# ? May 28, 2024 16:07 |
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I haven't overtly asked but I will. She had heat over Emmalina, was on her nth repackage and was injured a couple of times. WWE had to work around Total Divas and intercompany dating when selecting who to fire too.
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# ? Feb 20, 2018 00:54 |
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Don't expect her to lose much.
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# ? Feb 20, 2018 06:55 |
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Killing the Emmalina gimmick was the best thing Tenille ever did and that she got "heat" for it yet again exposes how creepy and out-of-touch WWE still is
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# ? Feb 20, 2018 07:03 |
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I was watching Hana Kimura work as a happy peppy babyface in Sendai Girls and the commentators started talking about her being an Oedo Tai member in Stardom. I'm probably thinking about this more than they ever did but how the hell do they recognise those two characters existing as one person in the same kayfabe?
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# ? Feb 20, 2018 15:42 |
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Baron Corbyn posted:I was watching Hana Kimura work as a happy peppy babyface in Sendai Girls and the commentators started talking about her being an Oedo Tai member in Stardom. I'm probably thinking about this more than they ever did but how the hell do they recognise those two characters existing as one person in the same kayfabe? I guess in kayfabe you could claim that Hana has a split personality disorder/mentally unstable? I mean losing Tam did send her off the deep end, at least in STARDOM.
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# ? Feb 20, 2018 15:57 |
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Baron Corbyn posted:I was watching Hana Kimura work as a happy peppy babyface in Sendai Girls and the commentators started talking about her being an Oedo Tai member in Stardom. I'm probably thinking about this more than they ever did but how the hell do they recognise those two characters existing as one person in the same kayfabe? Oedo Tai exists to give Rossy a hard time, something people in Sendai take greatmuch glee from.
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# ? Feb 20, 2018 20:51 |
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Japanese commentators seem to play faster and looser with kayfabe in general than announcers from English-speaking countries. I know I've heard even New Japan's commentators discussing who's the heel and who's the face at length, using those exact terms.
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# ? Feb 21, 2018 02:20 |
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Benne posted:Killing the Emmalina gimmick was the best thing Tenille ever did and that she got "heat" for it yet again exposes how creepy and out-of-touch WWE still is Yeah, pretty much. It's also why the idea that talent can nix things that they're not comfortable with (like when Jinder claimed he'd NEVER do any kind of racially insensitive promo) is horseshit. Even if you do manage to quash it, it basically kills any chance of a push because you're 'difficult'.
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# ? Feb 21, 2018 03:07 |
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rovert posted:WWE had to work around Total Divas and intercompany dating when selecting who to fire too. Is the latter really that big of a corporate concern?
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# ? Feb 21, 2018 04:21 |
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Hinoarashi posted:Is the latter really that big of a corporate concern?
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# ? Feb 21, 2018 05:29 |
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https://twitter.com/wwr_stardom/status/966290369267683328 Martina & Candyfloss to tour in April.
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# ? Feb 21, 2018 15:27 |
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Fuka Kakimoto (GM of STARDOM and one of the big wigs there) was hospitalized. Apparently she may be giving birth way earlier than estimated. I think she said she was expecting it around late March/Early April, but its still February.
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# ? Feb 21, 2018 18:03 |
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Really stoked to see Session Moth is Stardom. When she’s not being goofy, there’s a ton of talent in those leopard prints.
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# ? Feb 21, 2018 18:47 |
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Baron Corbyn posted:https://twitter.com/wwr_stardom/status/966290369267683328
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# ? Feb 21, 2018 19:39 |
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Io is a cool and good person. She donated her merchandise sales from the shows last weekend to the earthquake relief fund in Taiwan (roughly $1850).
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# ? Feb 21, 2018 20:04 |
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DarkstarIV posted:Fuka Kakimoto (GM of STARDOM and one of the big wigs there) was hospitalized. Apparently she may be giving birth way earlier than estimated. I think she said she was expecting it around late March/Early April, but its still February. Yeah, in her blog she said she's feeling healthy and everything should be fine. She hopes to put in an appearance at Dream Slam on March 28, but she's going to miss everything from now until then at least.
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# ? Feb 22, 2018 02:51 |
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DarkstarIV posted:Io is a cool and good person. She donated her merchandise sales from the shows last weekend to the earthquake relief fund in Taiwan (roughly $1850). you know I live here and I didn't know there was an earthquake relief fund until I read this post. The tag title match is up on Stardom World btw.
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# ? Feb 22, 2018 02:56 |
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is it bants to grind on rossy?
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# ? Feb 22, 2018 03:48 |
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I understand way less of what Martina says than I do of anything any Japanese wrestlers say
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# ? Feb 22, 2018 04:03 |
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Hard to talk about Martina on social media as she takes praise as a criticism sometimes. But I am really happy for her. Never thought her gimmick would last locally let alone become an international sensation. People should celebrate it but a lot of fans posting "earned not given" takes don't seem to really understand STARDOM and now random their gaijin talent selections can be.
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# ? Feb 22, 2018 05:04 |
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rovert posted:Hard to talk about Martina on social media as she takes praise as a criticism sometimes. But I am really happy for her. Never thought her gimmick would last locally let alone become an international sensation. The Stardom Reddit account has implied that they want foreign talent to approach them rather than the other way round. You know how accurate that is?
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# ? Feb 22, 2018 05:07 |
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Baron Corbyn posted:The Stardom Reddit account has implied that they want foreign talent to approach them rather than the other way round. You know how accurate that is? True. You used to have to apply through Cheerleader Melissa, I guess they want you to attend RISE if you are North American and I know Rossy asks talent for recommendations. Women's Wrestling has never been smaller if the UK, in particular, flying everyone in. Networking is pretty easey especially with social media.
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# ? Feb 22, 2018 05:17 |
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I remember someone from STARDOM saying that they eventually want to run a show or two (of their own) in the US, the big problem is getting all the visas and passports, or getting a company to sponsor/partner with them for it (as well as renting out a venue and selling tickets). The costs would almost certainly outweigh the benefits, unfortunately. Work visas are $190 per person. They would also probably have to rework their current system for autographs/photos/whatever. Because in Japan its a goddamn mess. Basically you pay like $20 to meet two stars and get a picture and/or autograph from both of them. Problem being is that the lines tend to be long, and the STARDOM staff gets really pissy if they go even slightly over time. I remember reading a story of one guy who bought a ticket to a show and getting some autographs, and he met Kris Wolf. He also got to meet Io but because he was last in line, they tried booting him out, but Io decided to take a picture and sign some stuff for him anyways. DarkstarIV fucked around with this message at 05:36 on Feb 22, 2018 |
# ? Feb 22, 2018 05:32 |
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When they came here, the shows were run by JVC as in the consumer electronics company which was weird. Hana Kimura got presented with a pair of headphones at the end of the show.
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# ? Feb 22, 2018 05:41 |
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Japanese idol security ops are pretty much the same way, if you get somewhat more than meek&idle, even if totally justifiable, they put the marching order down. Its like they outsourced to a slaughterhouse or something.
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# ? Feb 22, 2018 05:46 |
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I posted about it in the TNA thread, but Impact is trying to sign/bring in Io Shirai apparently. As others pointed out, there is little to no incentive for her to sign. She is STARDOM's highest paid star by a long shot (six digit range apparently), meaning she's almost certainly out of Impact's pay range (as if they'll pay her on time, if ever). The only incentive I could see for her is it would possibly put her back on WWE's radar despite her supposed injuries that had them pull her contract the first time. Impact can't even use exposure as an argument for it, because their ratings are incredibly low, along with not being able to sell many tickets (last I heard they had sold around 100 tickets) during Wrestlemania weekend. You could probably go to any other show that weekend and see more people. DarkstarIV fucked around with this message at 05:57 on Feb 22, 2018 |
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DarkstarIV posted:I posted about it in the TNA thread, but Impact is trying to sign/bring in Io Shirai apparently. As others pointed out, there is little to no incentive for her to sign. She is STARDOM's highest paid star by a long shot (six digit range apparently), meaning she's almost certainly out of Impact's pay range (as if they'll pay her on time, if ever). The only incentive I could see for her is it would possibly put her back on WWE's radar despite her supposed injuries that had them pull her contract the first time. On the one hand, it would be a pretty sweet get for TNA to pop their sales. On the other, its TNA so there's a high chance they'd cause an international incident by getting Io nabbed in an ICE raid.
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# ? Feb 22, 2018 06:09 |
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coconono posted:On the one hand, it would be a pretty sweet get for TNA to pop their sales. On the other, its TNA so there's a high chance they'd cause an international incident by getting Io nabbed in an ICE raid. Yeah although TNA would have to actually pay her on time and pay what she requests, considering she doesn't have much tolerance for the kind of stupid bullshit TNA pulls on a regular basis. Also I doubt Io alone could pop sales for them. Especially since Stardom is running shows during their taping periods and Wrestlemania weekend.
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# ? Feb 22, 2018 06:19 |
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In today's Observer Dave says the reason Io isn't in the WOH tournament is that she hopes to get cleared and sign with the WWE.
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# ? Feb 22, 2018 11:23 |
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Norwegian Rudo posted:In today's Observer Dave says the reason Io isn't in the WOH tournament is that she hopes to get cleared and sign with the WWE. Yeah it makes sense if you think about it. She has several big names vouching for her. HBK and Undertaker apparently like her ring work/mentality. She also is friends with Asuka and Kairi.
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# ? Feb 22, 2018 12:15 |
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I'm super ok with Io going to WWE. She's done everything there is to do in Stardom, and honestly Stardom doesn't really need her. Kagetsu and Mayu are both amazing and positioned as the two big names in the big faction feud, with a strong build behind it. Hana is at the top of her character work game, in addition to her actual ringwork being strong. Kyona could be a very strong character, face or heel, and could easily act as the top card gatekeeper. HZK and Momo are good to great workers, and once they break away from the No Fun Club, they could have some fun feuds. Between them and the rotating cast of westerners, that's a really solid top of the card. Once Toni comes back with the Red Belt, Stardom will be in a really great place, regardless of Io.
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# ? Feb 22, 2018 14:44 |
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Go RV! posted:I'm super ok with Io going to WWE. She's done everything there is to do in Stardom, and honestly Stardom doesn't really need her. Yeah and from what I remember, she's expressed frustration with her character work in STARDOM, as its not exactly a secret she wants to go full heel, but they won't let her because she moves a lot of merch. Right now she's a tweener. But I feel like if they brought her into WWE, they could have her be the foil to Kairi (as in she would be the Kevin Owens to Kairi [who would be Sami Zayn]).
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# ? Feb 22, 2018 14:58 |
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https://twitter.com/we_are_stardom/status/967225410118283264
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# ? Feb 24, 2018 03:52 |
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Deonna on social media is trying to draw attention to ROH TV cutting her WOH tournament match this weekend down to a 10-20 second clip. Before this late last week, ROH's Youtube did a big match dump of WOH first round matches and at that time a number of people paying close attention knew what that signalled - they had already given up on the women's division. ROH has had 2 years to figure this out.
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# ? Feb 26, 2018 18:54 |
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ROH has never been a great women’s promotion. They got close when they started repping the Shimmer title on shows but that lasted maybe two months. This current iteration of ROH management seems to want to have women’s wrestling but they treat it like its purely a fringe internet thing.
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# ? Feb 26, 2018 19:11 |
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Io vs Momo was a real good match, check it out. Poor Momo got bloodied up pretty bad though.
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# ? Feb 27, 2018 01:11 |
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DarkstarIV posted:Io vs Momo was a real good match, check it out. Poor Momo got bloodied up pretty bad though. That match was loving great. Stiff as hell, too. Going back, I think what happened was that Io caught Momo on the nose with the big palm strike right before the finish.
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# ? Feb 27, 2018 02:42 |
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https://twitter.com/SHIMMERwomen/status/968337973233242113
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# ? Feb 27, 2018 05:18 |
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Also RISE has partnered with Impact apparently. https://twitter.com/risedtwa/status/968307463748571136 RISE is real dumb for partnering with a toxic promotion like Impact.
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