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KozmoNaut
Apr 23, 2008

Happiness is a warm
Turbo Plasma Rifle


Jerry Cotton posted:

e: American cars are, of course, very much a thing for this thread. Are any of them even sold in Europe anymore?

Well, American marques are sold, but not very many actual American cars. Ford is the most obvious, but outside of the token wannabe redneck importing a big-rear end pickup, it's all Mondeos and Focuses and Fiestas. Chevrolet too, but all of the cars they sell here are based on previous Daewoo models. The Orlando is an exception, but even that is pretty much a Korean car now. Chrysler is in bed with Fiat, so there are a few token rebranded cars, but nothing big.

For actual jen-u-wine 'Murican cars being sold here not as grey market imports, I think it's basically just the Corvette and Camaro, and I'm not sure those are actually directly available anymore.

People just don't want to buy an American import, when they can have a higher-spec Euro Ford or Peugeot or Opel or Renault or Japanese import (with their reputation for reliability) at the same price instead, or a Korean import at a lower price.

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mobby_6kl
Aug 9, 2009

by Fluffdaddy
You can totally get a brand new 5.0 Mustang :getin:

Unfortunately it's like $60k with base equipment, but still.

KozmoNaut
Apr 23, 2008

Happiness is a warm
Turbo Plasma Rifle


Well darn, you actually can (at least when the 2018 model becomes available in a few months).

But it's gonna cost like $116K in Denmark :denmark:

Mercury Ballistic
Nov 14, 2005

not gun related

ryonguy posted:

A ship is generally not at risk for running into anything (in the middle of the ocean obviously, to stave off pedantry) if steering fails, and travel at very low speed which allows for maintenance and repairs to be done in situ. A plane or a car becomes an unguided munition around dozens or hundreds of people; in the airplane's case with a non-voluntary kamikaze component.

Late, but I sailed on what one of these ships was rebuilt into.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/SS_Esso_Brussels

A cotter pin failure lead to the Verrazano bridge getting burned and several deaths.

JnnyThndrs
May 29, 2001

HERE ARE THE FUCKING TOWELS

Grumbletron 4000 posted:

I had an '04 Pontiac GTP and I'll back you up on that. The ABS did it's job just fine during a panic stop on dry or even wet roads but in the snow it was an abomination. I'd barely touch the pedal and the ABS would kick on. Next thing I'd be standing on the fuckin pedal while the car merrily slid right through an intersection. It would have been better if all four wheels locked up. I only realized how lovely it was when one of the sensors poo poo the bed and the system shut off.

That was actually another lovely GM engineering gently caress up. The ABS/ traction senors were built into the wheel bearing assembly. So grit and salt would foul up the sensor and disable the system. Since it was built into the bearing you have to replace the entire wheel bearing rather than just a small sensor or wiring harness. I replaced all four perfectly good wheel bearings on that car. When it poo poo the bed again I said gently caress it and learned to ignore the immense amber "SAY GOODBYE TO ANOTHER $200 gently caress FACE" light on the dash.

GM used that setup on everything for many years(still do, I think on certain models). It wasn’t a big issue where I live due to the mild climate, but I can see it being an issue where they salt the roads. They were trying to avoid the problem of metal coming off the brakes sticking to an external sensor(which are magnetic) and loving up the ABS pulses, but ended up causing your gripe instead.

Mercury Ballistic
Nov 14, 2005

not gun related
If you are near DC, WTOP has hd 103.5-3 called the gamut. Just endless music, no fixed genres and no commercials. It is fantastic if you want bill Monroe followed by REM then Mos Def.

ryonguy
Jun 27, 2013

Krispy Wafer posted:

At some point terrestrial radio is going to be unprofitable for IHEARTMUSIC and the other big corporations. But radio broadcasting can be done cheaply, so we'll see a revival of small independent stations who don't need a big audience to keep the lights on.

And then the FCC will auction off all those radio frequencies for wireless data coverage and that will be the end of that.

Ahahahahaaha. No. And the FCC isn't accepting any license applications right now.

Mercury Ballistic posted:

quote:

in the middle of the ocean obviously, to stave off pedantry
WELL ACTUALLY

Obsolete technology: websites that can't/too lazy to code cross-platform web-pages?

Mercury Ballistic
Nov 14, 2005

not gun related
Well AKSHUALLY ships would prefer not to have a steering casualty at sea either as a stopped vessel is burning money like mad, and many popular routes even at sea are busy and risk of collision is still present.

Still, good catch.

The_Franz
Aug 8, 2003

blugu64 posted:

The AM station I listen to when I'm out of podcasts still plays the national anthem at 8am sharp :3:

I wonder what's going to happen to AM radio in 20 years once it's audience is almost entirely senile or dead? Outside of broadcasting sporting events it's all either conservative talk, local loudmouths (which largely overlaps with conservative talk) or weird conspiracy shows like Art Bell. The only smaller station here which used to host the weekly shows for ethnic communities and generally had a wide variety of programming was sold to Clear Channel a couple of years ago and now it's just more non-stop right-wing blowhards.

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Rev. Bleech_
Oct 19, 2004

~OKAY, WE'LL DRINK TO OUR LEGS!~

The_Franz posted:

I wonder what's going to happen to AM radio in 20 years once it's audience is almost entirely senile or dead? Outside of broadcasting sporting events it's all either conservative talk, local loudmouths (which largely overlaps with conservative talk) or weird conspiracy shows like Art Bell. The only smaller station here which used to host the weekly shows for ethnic communities and generally had a wide variety of programming was sold to Clear Channel a couple of years ago and now it's just more non-stop right-wing blowhards.

Locally they use it to simulcast their awful "RARGH SPORRRRRTS AND LIMP BIZKIT" FM station. Makes sense in a way, since I live like 6 miles from the transmitter and can barely get their FM station in.

Randaconda
Jul 3, 2014

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Coast to Coast AM owns


"Coming up next, giants, demons, and some other issues."

Krispy Wafer
Jul 26, 2002

I shouted out "Free the exposed 67"
But they stood on my hair and told me I was fat

Grimey Drawer
Every 'world car' that an American manufacturer tries to put out seems to die horrible deaths in the US. So tiny, such liddle engines.

I had a Saturn LS, which was a modified Opel. That was nice, but no one bought it so hypothesis holds up.


Well gently caress. I guess we'll get to enjoy those frequencies on our cell phones then.

shovelbum
Oct 21, 2010

Fun Shoe

Mercury Ballistic posted:

Late, but I sailed on what one of these ships was rebuilt into.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/SS_Esso_Brussels

A cotter pin failure lead to the Verrazano bridge getting burned and several deaths.

Crazy they made the sea witch engine room into the back of a chem tanker right

ryonguy
Jun 27, 2013

Krispy Wafer posted:

Every 'world car' that an American manufacturer tries to put out seems to die horrible deaths in the US. So tiny, such liddle engines.

I had a Saturn LS, which was a modified Opel. That was nice, but no one bought it so hypothesis holds up.


Well gently caress. I guess we'll get to enjoy those frequencies on our cell phones then.

It's why broadcast is, to me, an obsolete technology. It has its purposes, since emergency signals that don't have to rely on landlines are important, but for almost everything else the internet is a superior method of dissemination.

Pham Nuwen
Oct 30, 2010



The_Franz posted:

I wonder what's going to happen to AM radio in 20 years once it's audience is almost entirely senile or dead? Outside of broadcasting sporting events it's all either conservative talk, local loudmouths (which largely overlaps with conservative talk) or weird conspiracy shows like Art Bell. The only smaller station here which used to host the weekly shows for ethnic communities and generally had a wide variety of programming was sold to Clear Channel a couple of years ago and now it's just more non-stop right-wing blowhards.

There's a lot of Spanish-language AM in New Mexico, I believe in Southwestern states when an AM station is sold it is frequently converted to a Spanish-language talk/music format because there's a large and growing market.

As someone who doesn't speak Spanish, I'd rather they became low-rent independent English-language music stations but let's be real, I only tune through the AM band about once a month.

TinTower
Apr 21, 2010

You don't have to 8e a good person to 8e a hero.

Imagined posted:

The 'classic rock' era has to extend to 1980 simply to include "Back in Black".

It clearly goes as far as 1985 because how else could Mötley Crüe become classic rock? :confused:

Volcott
Mar 30, 2010

People paying American dollars to let other people know they didn't agree with someone's position on something is the lifeblood of these forums.
Nothing put out after Money for Nothing is allowed to be called classic rock.

Mercury Ballistic
Nov 14, 2005

not gun related

shovelbum posted:

Crazy they made the sea witch engine room into the back of a chem tanker right

Yeah, that ship had some demons. An entire tank of stainless steel is something to see though.

Humphreys
Jan 26, 2013

We conceived a way to use my mother as a porn mule


Randaconda posted:

Coast to Coast AM owns


"Coming up next, giants, demons, and some other issues."

I love the way the hosts stifle calling bullshit on the callers and just move on.

Back in the day, the John Titor story was amazing as it was unfolding.

Snow Cone Capone
Jul 31, 2003


TinTower posted:

It clearly goes as far as 1985 because how else could Mötley Crüe become classic rock? :confused:


Volcott posted:

Nothing put out after Money for Nothing is allowed to be called classic rock.

man the classic rock station here will jump from the Eagles to Green Day to Zeppelin. It's probably only a matter of a few years til they start playing stuff like Weezer and Soundgarden.

TITTIEKISSER69
Mar 19, 2005

SAVE THE BEES
PLANT MORE TREES
CLEAN THE SEAS
KISS TITTIESS




TinTower posted:

It clearly goes as far as 1985 because how else could Mötley Crüe become classic rock? :confused:

I appreciate this and you.

blugu64
Jul 17, 2006

Do you realize that fluoridation is the most monstrously conceived and dangerous communist plot we have ever had to face?
I heard an "oldies" station play Matchbox 20, though maybe they changed formats or something.

RoyKeen
Jul 24, 2007

Grimey Drawer

Mein Kampf Enthusiast posted:

man the classic rock station here will jump from the Eagles to Green Day to Zeppelin. It's probably only a matter of a few years til they start playing stuff like Weezer and Soundgarden.

There was a car commercial that had "Buddy Holly" as the background music and at first I was like "Oh, they have some contemporary music...Wait, that song is 20 years old! gently caress..." And this was a couple of years ago.

chitoryu12
Apr 24, 2014

The local classic rock station (before it became a lame simulcast AM talk radio station) started adding the 90s shortly before it shut down.

Snow Cone Capone
Jul 31, 2003


The Ape of Naples posted:

There was a car commercial that had "Buddy Holly" as the background music and at first I was like "Oh, they have some contemporary music...Wait, that song is 20 years old! gently caress..." And this was a couple of years ago.

more than 20, the Windows 95 CD I still have has an ultra low-res copy of the music video to that song on there.

T-man
Aug 22, 2010


Talk shit, get bzzzt.

Nothing after Uptown Funk is classic rock. :downs:

ToxicSlurpee
Nov 5, 2003

-=SEND HELP=-


Pillbug

Humphreys posted:

I love the way the hosts stifle calling bullshit on the callers and just move on.

Back in the day, the John Titor story was amazing as it was unfolding.

One of the things that made that show fun to listen to was that they didn't screen callers or say something was too insane for the air. So long as you didn't swear or say something illegal they'd just let people ramble. It was pretty obvious they believed pretty much none of it but "let the crazies have the mic for a bit" was part of the shtick.

Queen_Combat
Jan 15, 2011

T-man posted:

Nothing after Uptown Funk is classic rock. :downs:

Uptown Funk would be on the Shrek soundtrack if it was available at the time.

Chillbro Baggins
Oct 8, 2004
Bad Angus! Bad!
When my local radio station got bought out, they covered the transition from country to classic rock by playing Zeppelin for 24 hours. :rock:

FilthyImp
Sep 30, 2002

Anime Deviant

blugu64 posted:

I heard an "oldies" station play Matchbox 20, though maybe they changed formats or something.

Someone explained to me that Oldies morphed to Adult Hits or Classic Hits or some similar name, which just means everything from 2000 - 1965.

Of course, when I was a kid, Oldies were like 20-30 year old songs. poo poo by the Eurythmics or Nirvana is... 20 - 30 years old.

Grassy Knowles
Apr 4, 2003

"The original Terminator was a gritty fucking AMAZING piece of sci-fi. Gritty fucking rock-hard MURDER!"

Mein Kampf Enthusiast posted:

man the classic rock station here will jump from the Eagles to Green Day to Zeppelin. It's probably only a matter of a few years til they start playing stuff like Weezer and Soundgarden.

Black Hole Sun and Say It Ain't So both play on my local classic rock station

Samizdata
May 14, 2007

FilthyImp posted:

Someone explained to me that Oldies morphed to Adult Hits or Classic Hits or some similar name, which just means everything from 2000 - 1965.

Of course, when I was a kid, Oldies were like 20-30 year old songs. poo poo by the Eurythmics or Nirvana is... 20 - 30 years old.

Yeah, I knew I was officially old when they came up with a name for my high school music. "Retro".

Pham Nuwen
Oct 30, 2010



I used to listen to "oldies" stations when I was in 8th grade or so, but they all started to fade out a few years after that. This would have been the early 2000s. Except for KDSK as I mentioned in this thread, I haven't really come across a station with the traditional "oldies" format (pretty firm cutoff of not playing anything past 1970) in quite a few years. I assume it's due to the target audience dying off.

Wasabi the J
Jan 23, 2008

MOM WAS RIGHT

Grassy Knowles posted:

Black Hole Sun and Say It Ain't So both play on my local classic rock station

That's just the Rock Band soundtrack.

Also when is Dirty South coming back? That stuff blew up and disappeared after 2009.

Volcott
Mar 30, 2010

People paying American dollars to let other people know they didn't agree with someone's position on something is the lifeblood of these forums.
"Why don't you play Gene Pitney anymore, Big D 103?"

Because we no longer exist and you're old, said the radio station.

Humphreys
Jan 26, 2013

We conceived a way to use my mother as a porn mule


ToxicSlurpee posted:

One of the things that made that show fun to listen to was that they didn't screen callers or say something was too insane for the air. So long as you didn't swear or say something illegal they'd just let people ramble. It was pretty obvious they believed pretty much none of it but "let the crazies have the mic for a bit" was part of the shtick.

Exactly. I do remember the host of the day scolding a caller for swearing on air, made them cool down and finish the sentence just to presumably find out what flavour of crazy the caller was.

Spy_Guy
Feb 19, 2013

Here's an interesting thing I acquired recently. A Facit CA2-16, one of the most advanced desktop electromechanical calculators ever made.



These were manufactured during the 1960s and were the culmination of Facit's development in calculating machine technology.
They look quite nice internally, too.



The problem with these machines is that they were made just before the transistor and smaller electronics took the market by storm. In that sense the CA2-16 took the wrong fork in the path of computing history and became obsolete almost immediately.
I've been wanting to get a hold of one of these marvels for years now, and it's currently sat in my living room. :holy:

mostlygray
Nov 1, 2012

BURY ME AS I LIVED, A FREE MAN ON THE CLUTCH

Grassy Knowles posted:

Black Hole Sun and Say It Ain't So both play on my local classic rock station

When I was in college in the '90s, my friend and I once wondered what we would hear on classic rock stations once we got "old" We joked about jamming out to Beck with our kids in the back seat.

I'm pushing 40 now and I turned on a local classic rock station a few days ago while driving my kids. What do I hear? "In the time of chimpanzees I was a monkey..." I start singing along and my kids start looking at me weird.

We're all old now.

sarcastx
Feb 26, 2005



I think I missed "audio quality chat" but did want to throw this in:

I remember when Tidal was first announced; I was genuinely excited to hear that we were going to make the first decisive step forward in a long time in terms of audio quality. I'd thought CDs were top poo poo for a long time (after moving from vinyl to cassette and not having the money for reel-to-reel - christ I'm old) but had my mind blown by hearing a few DVDs from the early 2000s with DTS encoding. Think The Eagles' Hell Freezes Over and Santana's Supernatural.

So imagine my disappointment when it turns out that Tidal was just "better encoded CD quality".

Am I wrong in thinking that there was something much better about DTS' quality, or was it just that those discs had been mastered really well? If I remember correctly, DTS does have better dynamic range (among other technical differences). And why did we decide that CD-DA was as good as we would ever get?

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KozmoNaut
Apr 23, 2008

Happiness is a warm
Turbo Plasma Rifle


They were just recorded and mastered really well. DTS is a lossy format, so technically inferior to CD audio.

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