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Enfys posted:Also, being cool with elderly people becoming homeless and poverty-stricken because of how they vote is weird. It helps if you picture them all as Zuarg 30 years from now.
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Krispy Wafer posted:Remember the wealthiest generation was the Greatest one so all that money went to Boomers who also got cheaper educations, wages that actually went up in real terms, and reasonable housing. Poor Boomers who never got to take advantage of those benefits deserve some pity, but there are plenty that are just pissed they didn't get what they expected. Not only did they inherit all that money and piss it away, now they've moved on to huge and unnecessary tax cuts funded by debt which is really just sucking up money from future generations too. And the almost infinite damage from their refusal to address climate change in any way. Their entire generation is basically a black hole sucking in money and resources from everything around it.
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Feb 23, 2018 17:49
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NancyPants posted:It's sad that those people are out on the street because I believe that any developed nation should have a safety net that prevents that kind of thing. Krispy Wafer posted:It's not about being cool they're homeless. Almost all of them have Social Security as well as heavily subsidized healthcare, but none of that matters if you go into retirement paying a mortgage, couple of car notes, or a crippling addiction of some sort. A significant portion of those people who are homeless would still be homeless if they had a decent retirement because they weren't going to prepare regardless. You're doing exactly the same thing as all the people who shake their fists about millennials and froth at the mouth about how they are destroying everything. This attitude and extreme way of thinking isn't any different just because you are the one doing the finger pointing. It's two groups of people yelling exactly the same thing at each other with just one descriptor replaced.
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Feb 23, 2018 17:51
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Except boomers are actually that terrible and no amount of centrist rubbish is going to change that
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Feb 23, 2018 17:54
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Do you guys all hate your grandmas or what?
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please knock Mom! posted:Except boomers are actually that terrible and no amount of centrist rubbish is going to change that What do you think whatever people born today are going to say about current generations when they have to grow up in the aftermath of years of Trump and all of today's political instability? Are you entirely to blame for the problems your kids/grandkids will face when they are your age? Are your parents and grandparents to blame for all of society's problems now? Blaming entire groups of people for your problems is really easy and has been humanity's mode of operating basically forever, so sure, you're in good company I guess. Just don't pretend you're behaving any differently because you are totally correct, unlike everyone else in the history of mankind.
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Feb 23, 2018 18:05
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Enfys posted:You're doing exactly the same thing as all the people who shake their fists about millennials and froth at the mouth about how they are destroying everything. This attitude and extreme way of thinking isn't any different just because you are the one doing the finger pointing. It's two groups of people yelling exactly the same thing at each other with just one descriptor replaced. Yeah, no. Boomers as a generation are complete poo poo. They're the literal reason for almost everything hosed in the western world right now.
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Feb 23, 2018 18:05
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potatoducks posted:Do you guys all hate your grandmas or what? No, we mostly just hate our parents
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Feb 23, 2018 18:06
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Enfys posted:
"“Never do business with a religious son-of-a-bitch. His word ain't worth a poo poo -- not with the Good Lord telling him how to gently caress you on the deal.”
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Feb 23, 2018 18:07
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I mostly blame myself for the position in life I find myself in, but now that I learned it's actually my parents' fault, a weight has been lifted.
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Feb 23, 2018 18:07
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Not a Children posted:No, we mostly just hate our parents You're right. I don't spend my days blaming everything on the baby boomers so I don't even remember how old they're supposed to be.
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Feb 23, 2018 18:11
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#NotAllBoomers and all that, but of course Boomers could vote to fund the social programs that they need right fuckin now, but instead... 
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Feb 23, 2018 18:11
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Enfys posted:You're doing exactly the same thing as all the people who shake their fists about millennials and froth at the mouth about how they are destroying everything. This attitude and extreme way of thinking isn't any different just because you are the one doing the finger pointing. It's two groups of people yelling exactly the same thing at each other with just one descriptor replaced. The ones who are sick, poor, and homeless deserve our compassion. But how far should that go? They already get better Social Security and Medicare than we ever will. They own most almost all of the non-internet wealth created since WWII. At some point you have to stop borrowing from the future. They can't propose massive increases in taxes to pay for their underfunded retirement right as most of them leave the workforce. That's as big a bullshit move as you're going to find. Sometimes you have to deal with your poo poo sandwich and realize you're the bad example future generations learn from. Millennials are saving for retirement at a pace that murders prior generations, so I guess it worked.
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Feb 23, 2018 18:11
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Moneyball posted:I mostly blame myself for the position in life I find myself in, but now that I learned it's actually my parents' fault, a weight has been lifted. I'm sorry that your life isn't going very well. But some of us are successful / don't personally hate our parents while also being able to see how terrible their generation has been.
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Feb 23, 2018 18:11
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I'm as big a baby boomer hater as is probably possible and I gotta say abandoning a massive group of people to die in the streets because you don't support their life choices is about the most baby boomer move out there. Getting the impression a lot of the people in here are just as selfish as them and are just pissed off they didn't get to be the ones taking advantage of all the wealth and opportunity, because they clearly don't care about equitable care and safety for their fellow humans.
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Feb 23, 2018 18:12
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These are poor people retiring and having no savings, they're probably not republicans lol
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Feb 23, 2018 18:17
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The horse thing can get annoying because yeah, obviously many people have a hobby that costs money and isn't a Side Hustle funneling cash into your pocket. But there DOES seem to be a much higher rate of people that absolutely bankrupt themselves on the hobby in really dumb ways. "my friend has a horse and it costs a lot of money in stable fees" -a bad post "my friend got a payday loan and sold the car she needs for work because she wanted top quality horse semen to add a third horse to the roster" - a good post
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Feb 23, 2018 18:18
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pr0zac posted:Getting the impression a lot of the people in here are just as selfish as them and are just pissed off they didn't get to be the ones taking advantage of all the wealth and opportunity, because they clearly don't care about equitable care and safety for their fellow humans. Agree. And that's ok. I'm also selfish and don't care about others. But at least be honest about it. an actual dog posted:These are poor people retiring and having no savings, they're probably not republicans lol Nah they're definitely still republicans. They're poor, but at least they're not black.
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Feb 23, 2018 18:19
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Most people straight up do not learn about money, how to budget, or what it takes to survive with any standard of living in old age, and aren't forced to learn until they're at best a couple years from retirement. Is it any wonder that we have half a generation of destitute olds, independent of the fact that a good chunk of them never had the means to save for a significant retirement anyway?
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Feb 23, 2018 18:20
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Nah, they are just bitter that their lives didn't turn out as they had hoped. For just about any social science (as opposed to natural science) question, there is rarely only one casual factor. To think that any generation is almost/entirely responsible for the ills of the world is just delusional. Bootstraps, people, bootstraps. Less whining.
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Feb 23, 2018 18:23
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John Smith posted:Nah, they are just bitter that their lives didn't turn out as they had hoped. So just for the record, for those of you saying we shouldn't blame the baby boomers and that's mean and unfair - you all agree with John Smith.
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Feb 23, 2018 18:26
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pr0zac posted:I'm as big a baby boomer hater as is probably possible and I gotta say abandoning a massive group of people to die in the streets because you don't support their life choices is about the most baby boomer move out there. Boomers are the ones who complained the loudest about food stamp recipients eating lobster or talking on their Obama phones. So obviously the answer is public assistance that limits benefits to the basics and maybe feature phones with a WAP button. Don't let them starve. Of course not. But don't reward them for their choices either. And yeah, there's some bitterness and vindictiveness in that, but at the same time for the benefit of society you can't reward bad behavior. Also my Boomer parents made fantastic choices with booze and cigarettes, so I don't have to worry about supporting them.
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Feb 23, 2018 18:27
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Yet there are very concrete selfish and idiotic laws and regulations that we can point to that boomers massively support. I wouldn't blame them for every ill in the world no, but to ignore their cultural and political footprint is just burying your head in the sand. Actions do have effects and all that
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Feb 23, 2018 18:27
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"If you're mad at people for screwing you, you're just mad that you didn't get the chance to screw them first" Nice man, you should be a defense attorney and use that sick line to own rape victims
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Feb 23, 2018 18:28
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Droo posted:So just for the record, for those of you saying we shouldn't blame the baby boomers and that's mean and unfair - you all agree with John Smith.
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Feb 23, 2018 18:42
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Krispy Wafer posted:Boomers are the ones who complained the loudest about food stamp recipients eating lobster or talking on their Obama phones. So obviously the answer is public assistance that limits benefits to the basics and maybe feature phones with a WAP button. Don't let them starve. Of course not. But don't reward them for their choices either. And yeah, there's some bitterness and vindictiveness in that, but at the same time for the benefit of society you can't reward bad behavior. actually the welfare mania was an early nineties thing so yeah boomers were politically significant but the so-called greatest generation had significantly more economic and social clout at the time generational adversity for Boomers was getting drafted to go fight a stupid war that had no bearing on our safety or security, a constant hysteria over threat of nuclear armageddon while growing up, and the first generation to be broadly offered unsecured consumer credit, which all adds up to lots of stupid decisions like yeah they hosed things up, and they're still loving things up, and it's cool to be righteously angry at Boomers as a generation but remember that most Boomers are poor, economically disadvantaged schlubs too, and throwing everyone older than you off of government benefits because they didn't lockstep vote to preserve them is pretty nearly FYGM as any Boomer could get
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potatoducks posted:Nah they're definitely still republicans. They're poor, but at least they're not black. lol this really isn't the case, they're most likely non-voters more than anything. Please save your hate for rich people not poor people, and note that democrats gently caress over these people just as much as republicans.
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also if you can be convinced that an entire group of people only related by some particular accident of birth (Boomers) is fundamentally different from you and robbing you of your own opportunities for wealth and well-being you're falling for the same exact rhetorical device that Republicans use to force through reduced government programs by the looming threat of People Who Are Not White. Most Baby Boomers are just as hosed as you are economically
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Feb 23, 2018 18:47
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Yo this thread is gonna get bad. Please don't make it bad. It was really great yesterday. I don't know if people were being extra BWM on reddit, but we got a lot of good contributions.
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Feb 23, 2018 18:49
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Ah you contributed. And it's been fun.
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Feb 23, 2018 18:52
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Dwight Eisenhower posted:actually the welfare mania was an early nineties thing so yeah boomers were politically significant but the so-called greatest generation had significantly more economic and social clout at the time I don't think Boomers get enough credit for Vietnam. Subsequent generations didn't have to deal with a draft and getting pulled away for 2 years which has both an economic and social/mental impact that hurt everyone, but marginalized groups the worst. Will just keep it at that subject that no one ever feels a need to debate, Vietnam.
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Feb 23, 2018 18:55
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please knock Mom! posted:Vietnam was very BWM It was GWM for stockholders and employees of the military-industrial complex (note - not the military itself)
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Considering moving all money to CD and living off a credit card quote:What do you think of this idea... Even assuming OP is gonna find a series of 0%-for-a-year cards, this seems... Poorly thought through. It's a great idea to have no liquid cash, just have no emergencies, why hasn't anyone thought of that My favorite part is in the comments: quote:you'd still have to make at least the minimum payment every month. quote:I did not know this was mandatory thank you.
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Feb 23, 2018 19:10
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Not a Children posted:No, we mostly just hate our parents Yeah my grandma is cool, it's my parents who suck.
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Feb 23, 2018 19:14
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god that's the good poo poo thank you
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Feb 23, 2018 19:15
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Don't hate your parents, just admit they suck and try to love em anyway Hate is bad for you, dogs Oh man lolling big time at Mandatory Credit Card Payment guy, heh
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Feb 23, 2018 19:17
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Pull up thread, pull up! It's so bad it attracted John Smith! I cosigned for my brother's car. He stopped making payments on it quote:Long story short, I helped him buy a used car 4 years ago on a 56m loan for $7700 @ $163/m payments. He made the payments on time religiously for 4 years and 4 months 47 months (+2 i just paid), i went and counted the payments via Credit Karma
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Feb 23, 2018 19:18
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Higgy posted:Pull up thread, pull up! It's so bad it attracted John Smith! A loan cosigner making 47 payments on a co-signed car loan is the actually the best outcome of that's ever been observed in the history of co-signed car loans
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Higgy posted:Pull up thread, pull up! It's so bad it attracted John Smith! Which do you think would be better, if he is or isn't on the title and registration?
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