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Tenzarin posted:Last build the drakefire pistols aoe was smaller, haven't tried them again. I've only been using the Drakegun lately. I think I tried Drakefire pistols last build and hated them, they seemed terrible. Lunethex posted:It wasn't generating heat. Oh, well with the Irondrake talent (one of the level 10 Ironbreaker ones) it doesn't generate enough to worry about 75% of the time.
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I dont know posted:Any tips for playing BW? I'm not sure how I should be managing heat. Her melee weapons seem bad other than the basic sword, am I missing something about the dagger and mace? Dagger I haven't really found a niche for yet because its surprisingly hard to aim imo. Flaming sword is a weird single target dueling weapon but you might like it, and its charged attack sound as the blade crackles alight ready for crime could be considered worth the price of admission. Mace is excellent, it doesn't hit as many as a charged sword attack, but it staggers big guys with the normal attack and its charged attack pastes stormvermin and mauler skulls very very nicely. Makes for a nice Reversal of Fortune feeling when you stunlock and bludgeon to death a chaos warrior who was leering at you five seconds ago. For the starting battle wizard, you want to melee exclusively until something happens--combos of specials spawn, a swarm triggers, whatever--and then go hogfuck nuts into the red with fully charged fireballs and conflags and flamestrikes. Then whip out your weapon and CC stuff with folks who have shields and 2hander weapons and work around the edges of the fight to keep them from getting overwhelmed. It'll be a small job while you're burning hot but important partially since getting surrounded is a death sentence in this game on every difficulty, but also so your passive can kick in and vent you for free while you busy yourself with taking no damage and krumping everyone trying to shiv your friends in the back. As you level her up you'll unlock a lot of hilarious synergies for her with the different career talents and item traits and I don't wanna spoil those for you but it's gonna be a minute until I can play Saltzpyre let's just say that much.
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New page. If you have anything you want to add to this QoL bullet list feel free, I'll post in a few hours.quote:This will be a bulleted list of things that should be looked at gameplay wise, tiny QoL additions, and things that don’t need a deep explanation. Made as sort of a reminder of what we’ve seen and what will improve a player’s life in-game. Since open beta is close at hand I expect a lot of them will be in already but based on all CBT experience, these little things would go a long way. Lunethex fucked around with this message at 06:57 on Feb 24, 2018 |
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Feb 24, 2018 06:55
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'remove the elf'
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Feb 24, 2018 06:59
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Lunethex posted:I'm writing a bulleted list to fill out my posts on the Fatshark forum sooner or later. If you have any ideas to add to this let me know. Should be able to change equipment on heroes without switching to them. The base level equipment that's stuck in the inventory is weird and just adds clutter. The sound effect when salvaging equipment is way too loud. There should be a toggle to mute the npc guy in the keep. Edit: Add an option to mute game sounds when running in the background.
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Feb 24, 2018 06:59
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I'm new to this, but enjoyed L4D back in the day. Is there anyway to play this game primarily ranged? Or are all classes ammo limited and you're constantly just swinging a weapon around like a mongoloid?
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Feb 24, 2018 07:50
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I've been able to play a veteran ranger and an iron breaker as primarily range. Also huntsman. You will fall back to weapons at times.
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Feb 24, 2018 08:01
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I would say if I were adding to QoL stuff, tooltips should reflect innate weapon traits in addition to crit chance, max enemies hit and so forth already mentioned. It's really annoying that some weapons bypass armor, some to stagger more and so on, but it's not mentioned anywhere. Hell, Witchunter's rapier offhand isn't even mentioned anywhere other than in the picture.
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Feb 24, 2018 08:27
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elf serves primarily ranged on a silver platter from the get go, but compared to all the other starting careers elf serves EVERYTHING on a silver platter so i guess that's not saying much
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Feb 24, 2018 09:14
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The Longbow is way, way stronger than the Hagbane. You can mow down entire lines of either Skaven or Chaos swarm coming your way and be better equipped for specials at range. Better to use the Hagbane on Shade and maybe Handmaiden though, the Waystalker's infinite quiver makes sniping and mowing a worry-free cinch.quote:That’s another thing to ponder: The sheer size of Kerillian’s quiver with the Longbow absolutely invalidates other potential sniping weapons and gives her leeway to fire into lined Skaven and Chaos hordes because of the penetration. As I understand it, Kruber’s handgun only has 10 shots outside of the Huntsman, though I only see Huntsmen using Blunderbuss or the Bow. Saltzpyre’s pistols only have 20~ shots. I don’t know the Crossbow count but I saw less of them and I have definitely never seen anyone fielding the Volleybow. I know a lot of people who will argue and argue that the Hagbane makes them feel inadequate in the game and that it ruins their fun somehow, but they don’t complain when I use the longbow, yet no matter their roles and weapons, especially on lower difficulties, they are even more invalidated by the presence of me sniping specials then moving on to hew the hordes with my melee just as easily as I would otherwise, or mowing down an entire line of a swarm with the Longbow. One of the best all-around pairings in the game is clearly Bardin Ironbreaker with Kerillian Waystalker, Drakegun + Longbow.
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there's also the trueflight ability on the waystalker which loving somehow manages to kill more with the longbow than it does the hagbane (i know how it's penetration gone wild, i'm 85% sure they increased the penetration on the longbow A LOT in this last phase) between all the ridiculous buffs kerillian's gotten while everyone else has gone sideways at best and the good fistful of just-enough-to-start-fanfiction comments that go between kruber and kerillian i think someone at fatshark has an unironic boner for the elf
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Feb 24, 2018 09:42
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Remove elf.
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Feb 24, 2018 09:42
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I need the elf to remain disgustingly powerful so that when I solo queue at 4 AM the dumb moron elf players I get matched into are overpowered enough to still contribute.
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Feb 24, 2018 09:48
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to be clear in random pubbing around today i saw three separate elves with longbows hit their trueflight barrage and cut a charging chaos swarm down in at least half, maybe as much as 2/3rds (it's a little difficult to tell in the heat of the moment, esp since i am playing classes i'm less familiar with to keep the game interesting rn)
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Feb 24, 2018 09:49
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More Skaven die from the Trueshot volley than Chaos do.
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Feb 24, 2018 10:06
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i swear to god the skaven die to just the concussion graze from the longbow like it goes zipping by a slave rat's head on the way to a stormvermin's skull and the slave rat is all "blarg"
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Feb 24, 2018 10:08
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You motherfuckers care way too much about this video game.
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Feb 24, 2018 10:19
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He doesn't
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Feb 24, 2018 10:21
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Digirat posted:now that modding is in I am going to try to do this for all rats and chaos, but with the elf voice This is the superior voice pack
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Feb 24, 2018 11:24
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I think I was killed by more pubbie bright wizards than I was rats and chaos today.
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Feb 24, 2018 11:41
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They made tomes 10XP each. At that point why even bother?  Hell of a lot of interesting decisions going around from Fatshark.
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Feb 24, 2018 12:13
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Orv posted:They made tomes 10XP each. At that point why even bother? 3 tomes is like 1/2 of a bar on the loot chest at the end, which is pretty nice for not a lot of effort. 2 grims seems to be worth about a full bar.
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Feb 24, 2018 12:42
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I feel like Ranald's swings so hard that a bar and a half is almost meaningless if you need to rely on General's/Emperor's for decent drops at the high end, but who knows.
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Feb 24, 2018 12:44
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Orv posted:They made tomes 10XP each. At that point why even bother?
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Orv posted:I feel like Ranald's swings so hard that a bar and a half is almost meaningless if you need to rely on General's/Emperor's for decent drops at the high end, but who knows. I have never seen Ranald's swing harder than two bars so if you want those Emperor chests with any consistency at all I'm pretty sure you absolutely have to get one or the other at least.
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So how about them Huntsman damage numbers My basic mace swing does about 600 damage Longbow critical headshot does around 6000 damage .... Strength potion + Huntsman ulted longbow critical headshot does 28000 damage uh ok edit: just killed a bile troll on hard in literally 6 seconds, with 3 bots Ad by Khad fucked around with this message at 13:39 on Feb 24, 2018 |
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Kanos posted:I have never seen Ranald's swing harder than two bars so if you want those Emperor chests with any consistency at all I'm pretty sure you absolutely have to get one or the other at least. I mean more that it very frequently gives you jack poo poo, meaning you might go to all that trouble for nothing. Which you know, video games, but it kinda sucks.
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Orv posted:I mean more that it very frequently gives you jack poo poo, meaning you might go to all that trouble for nothing. Which you know, video games, but it kinda sucks. Oh, I get you now. Well, look at it this way. Getting a full sweep of tomes and grims is worth more XP than jumping from normal to hard in addition to the loot benefits, and on the beta maps we have now almost all of the tomes and grims are either directly on the way or require minor detours that will usually bring you past a potential supply spawn, so it's not really costing you anything. Grimoires become even more convenient once you start rolling up trinkets that have the old Lichbone effect, as well. The only grim that I think is a little dumb, inconvenient, and not worth it is the one that requires a platforming puzzle on the Helmgart map because the jumps are finnicky and loving it up will cost you 50%+ of your HP due to the length of the fall.
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Oh that big list of things. I disagree that Quick play should not let you join groups at the keep. I would rather join before the start rather then when it is already going.
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I got trapped in a terrible cycle of joining Champion games just as having two bots caused them to lose.
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Lunethex posted:New page. If you have anything you want to add to this QoL bullet list feel free, I'll post in a few hours. I'd like to change my equipment in the same room as the portal mission starter place. Or make the path shorter between the two. I'd also think the crossbow would work better if you fired one shot while aiming and a burst of three when shooting from the hip. Trip report, pubbed it as the dwarf with a decent Saltspyre and kruber, the elf often brought up the rear. Make it to the end when all the enemy running towards us start to sink into the ground. I literally see the exit light up. Screen goes black and everyone loads to the start of the mission except the elf. WH asks if we have to do it all again? Kruber says we get to do it again. I tell them a saying my cousin Okri was fond of. "Never let an elf host on their connection." We all have a laugh. I give the game 13 new your pizza rats out of 5.
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Sazabi posted:I'd like to change my equipment in the same room as the portal mission starter place. Or make the path shorter between the two. You can just hit “i” and bring up the inventory/talents/crafting screen.
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Feb 24, 2018 17:47
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what is the icon that shows up in the middle of my screen sometimes when I'm spamming melees? it looks like an ability icon, but for what?
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Feb 24, 2018 18:01
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A 50S RAYGUN posted:what is the icon that shows up in the middle of my screen sometimes when I'm spamming melees? it looks like an ability icon, but for what? One of your abilities or a teammates. They added most icons now.
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Quality of life thing that surely has been reported a few hundred times: Characters will say "Potion!" when they see both healing draughts and potions. It's frustrating. And maybe egregious enough to actually be a bug instead.
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Feb 24, 2018 18:19
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Tried the mace on sienna but wasnt feeling it, swords it seems to be for me. I miss the power swing aoe too much.
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Feb 24, 2018 18:28
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I hated the mace in the first game but it’s my favourite in this one. Constant head exploding and the thump sound of body blows is so satisfying 
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Feb 24, 2018 19:29
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grabbing tomes makes a lot of sense in the current context since it costs you almost nothing, but there's almost no point to grabbing grims. a full book run guarantees a soldier's box. a soldier's box - okay? who gives a crap? you need general's or emperor's to really get quality stuff. i get that doing grims makes you less reliant on ranald's gift but until i have a level down so cold i don't even need gear i will be much better off just taking the health as i will get more boxes out of the deal.
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Feb 24, 2018 19:38
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What is the order of better lootboxes?
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Madcosby posted:What is the order of better lootboxes? peasant -> commoner -> merchant -> soldier -> general -> emperor
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