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chapter's up https://jaiminisbox.com/reader/read/dr-stone/en/0/47/page/1 
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That hanzo steel.  Of course a Japanese Katana would be the strongest weapon in this setting.So where does this fall in the tech tree again?
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Feb 23, 2018 09:14
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I like that explained that the big dumb goits as basicaly being Disposable Mooks
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Feb 23, 2018 09:32
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Feb 23, 2018 10:35
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Dr. Stone - Senkuu Sighed As He Unsheated His Katana
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Feb 23, 2018 10:49
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I don’t know much about sword-making, but isn’t making katanas in 3 days kinda ridiculous? Hilt and all too.
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Feb 23, 2018 11:05
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Yeah kinda silly. Katanas are not a terrible choice though because they don't require as much Iron as European swords. Also they're working with lovely iron sand because Japan doesn't have much in the way of iron deposits so the "1000 FOLDED HANZO STEEL" forging is about all they got without better chemicals and tools.
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Feb 23, 2018 13:38
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yeah you'd want to give your dudes iron pointed spears and hatchets and halberds, something that gives you reach, and makes use of cheap natural materials
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Feb 23, 2018 14:14
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Didn't senku make a blast furnace? Checking.... Yep, lot easier to make poo poo when you can melt iron to liquid rather than merely soften it. A lot faster as well. Also swords are pretty good weapons, especially if you can mass produce them.
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Feb 23, 2018 15:30
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amigolupus posted:That hanzo steel. I mean they're competing against guys who are literally using rocks tied to sticks, it's not exactly difficult to beat that.
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Feb 23, 2018 16:11
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Phobophilia posted:yeah you'd want to give your dudes iron pointed spears and hatchets and halberds, something that gives you reach, and makes use of cheap natural materials Against Rocks tied to sticks they are still way better. Plus the guys they are fighting are Japanese and recognize the swords, so they are probably a bit intimidated by them. Plus I think Senku even said these swords were not great quality ones, but it's still way better then the crap their enemies are using.
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Feb 23, 2018 18:06
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Kinrou looks good with glasses.
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Feb 23, 2018 21:30
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I’m just glad Sukia got a new helmet
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Feb 23, 2018 21:44
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AtomikKrab posted:Didn't senku make a blast furnace? you cannot simply "mass produce" hanzo steel, it requires the soul of an artisan
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Feb 23, 2018 22:50
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Yinlock posted:you cannot simply "mass produce" hanzo steel, it requires the soul of an artisan *creates a robot with a soul*
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Feb 24, 2018 03:09
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MonsieurChoc posted:*creates a robot with a soul* but enough about origin
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Feb 24, 2018 03:17
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ConanThe3rd posted:I’m just glad Sukia got a new helmet It's "Suika," which means "watermelon" in Japanese. I just recently caught up (I had missed the past 10-12 chapters) and this is such a great series. It's beee a particularly good surprise that Senkuu apparently had such a positive reception relative to the more typical other protagonist guy. WSJ is really the best its been in a long time ever since the previous "big three" titles died out and new stuff started being adopted.
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Feb 24, 2018 04:03
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Ytlaya posted:It's "Suika," which means "watermelon" in Japanese. One Piece is still ongoing, only two of those finished, and of those, one finished on its own terms and now has a sequel I stopped caring about. That said, yeah, Shonen Jump is in a very good moment right now. One Piece is great as always, but also My Hero Academia is very good western-ish shonen, Hunter x Hunter is actually publishing, and Dr. Stone adds a touch of intelligence to the genre.
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Feb 24, 2018 04:10
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Blaze Dragon posted:One Piece is still ongoing, only two of those finished, and of those, one finished on its own terms and now has a sequel I stopped caring about. Yeah, not sure why I included OP since I know it's still running. But WSJ also has Promised Neverland, and Black Clover is fairly solid, even if it's not anything super great. (I've always strongly disagreed with the idea that My Hero Academia is really similar to western comics in any way other than All Might's character design. I think that idea just sort of spread like a meme due to the thing about Horikoshi like western comics. The actual plot beats and characters and stuff are just what you'd normally expect from a shounen, though done well.)
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Feb 24, 2018 04:31
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Ytlaya posted:Yeah, not sure why I included OP since I know it's still running. But WSJ also has Promised Neverland, and Black Clover is fairly solid, even if it's not anything super great. It's (or at least was, imo) paced really quite well, but after the stellar first few arcs, and yeah they are the epitome of the shonen trifecta: Story and power setup, recurring cast, rival and villain introduction, and then the first true threat informing the remainder of the manga. But then beyond that, I kind of stopped caring. Rigged Death Trap fucked around with this message at 13:02 on Feb 24, 2018 |
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Feb 24, 2018 12:54
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If MHA was like a Western Comic the protagonist would be All Might again as soon as the anime started and 1/3rd of the arcs would be heroes fighting each other and changing sides.
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Feb 24, 2018 15:45
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there are kid protagonists in western comics some of the kid focused team books would be the closest comparison I think
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Feb 24, 2018 22:08
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Manatee Cannon posted:there are kid protagonists in western comics It's more that in capecomics whenever they announce a superhero is passing the mantle that gets retconned months later. The only exception I can think of is uhh the Flash?
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Feb 25, 2018 03:20
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I can’t read cape comics because there’s never any kind of cohesive vision from the 5 different white dudes and that one white girl who writes that stuff
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Feb 25, 2018 03:38
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Plutonis posted:It's more that in capecomics whenever they announce a superhero is passing the mantle that gets retconned months later. The only exception I can think of is uhh the Flash? Back in the 90s, DC kept mantles passed for some time. Flash and Green Lantern stayed the replacements for, like, a decade plus. And more minor mantles can stay passed for even longer (we're on, what, the fifth Robin?)
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Feb 25, 2018 04:12
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Hanzo steel memes aside, making them katanas is actually a pretty good choice all things told. The positives are still there (being designed in the first place to be made with lovely iron sand instead of iron deposits, good at cutting people) without the negatives really being a problem - the other group doesn't have any armour, especially bronze/iron/steel armour that would be a problem for the relative brittleness of the katana. Plus as someone said, the other side are all modern day people. Turning up to a fight with your rock tied to a stick and seeing the other side with loving katanas is going to do some psychological damage.
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Feb 25, 2018 06:12
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it's still japan. i don't think 4000 years is enough to change the ore deposits.
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Feb 25, 2018 06:13
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gimme the GOD drat candy posted:it's still japan. i don't think 4000 years is enough to change the ore deposits. Senkuu can mine high grade Mazdatite and toyotanium whn he gets to the mainland
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Feb 25, 2018 06:25
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Plutonis posted:It's more that in capecomics whenever they announce a superhero is passing the mantle that gets retconned months later. The only exception I can think of is uhh the Flash? Uhhh, about that... With New52, DC rolled the role of Flash to Barry Allen so hard that Wally West stopped existing for years. To the point that the Flash on the TV show and the JL movie is pretty much Wally West but they called him Barry Allen because Barry is one of the most boring characters ever.  Back to the chapter, I'm curious what's special about the spear Hyouga is carrying. It seems to have a trick to it, so maybe he's using something scientific to make it more effective? It might explain why he doesn't want anyone to look at it, since he doesn't want it getting back to Tsukasa.
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Feb 25, 2018 08:54
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Hyouga was a materials engineer with a specilization in air bearings. But il fuckin lol if tsukasa starts leering at anyone who makes ab atlatl
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Feb 25, 2018 09:02
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amigolupus posted:Back to the chapter, I'm curious what's special about the spear Hyouga is carrying. It seems to have a trick to it, so maybe he's using something scientific to make it more effective? It might explain why he doesn't want anyone to look at it, since he doesn't want it getting back to Tsukasa. It's a kuda yari/tube spear. The shaft goes through a hollow tube and you can twist it while thrusting to make it hard to dodge or push it up and down to thrust faster(or both). It shows up in a couple of other manga/anime. RatHat fucked around with this message at 09:08 on Feb 25, 2018 |
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Feb 25, 2018 09:05
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even medieval technology is a huge step up from stone age technology
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Feb 25, 2018 09:18
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I mean, realistically speaking I'm pretty sure spears would be the best option, with some sort of shorter blade as a secondary weapon maybe. It's especially strange since I imagine you'd need considerably different training to use a sword like a katana compared with the spears I think most of the village's fighters (minus main girl I forget the name of) used beforehand.
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Feb 25, 2018 09:27
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Have they not invented arrows yet?
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Feb 25, 2018 12:24
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Ytlaya posted:I mean, realistically speaking I'm pretty sure spears would be the best option, with some sort of shorter blade as a secondary weapon maybe. It's especially strange since I imagine you'd need considerably different training to use a sword like a katana compared with the spears I think most of the village's fighters (minus main girl I forget the name of) used beforehand. Considering most wars before gunpowder were won with spears and arrows because when arming a militia, which is all you really had beyond your small force of career soldiers/knights, the cheapest and most effective things are sharp sticks and the occasional axe that came with the person. But really against anything bronze age and earlier steels, and especially hardened steels, are going to be some kind of god-level material in comparison to what came before.
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Feb 25, 2018 15:36
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There should be something to say in favor of swords when you only need to arm 5 elite fighters. Aside from the fact that they already have spears, if the
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Feb 25, 2018 17:30
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The swords could disarm the grunts, spears could only hurt them. It also caused them to retreat. Senkuu also doesn't want to necessarily kill them.
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Feb 25, 2018 19:32
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Swords are visually cooler and more appealing for a shonen manga audience
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Feb 26, 2018 00:30
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polearms will gently caress up anyone, swords are sidearms
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projectile weapons won't work against tsukasa because he is literally superhuman
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