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Combat Pretzel posted:Some none ugly rear end gently caress mainboards would be swell. But mobo makers then can't $100+ extra for like $5 more in ugly BoM cost
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Are there ravin ridge boards like that crazy Atom board from asrock that is ITX and has like 10 SATA ports?
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# ? Feb 23, 2018 18:22 |
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KKKLIP ART posted:Are there ravin ridge boards like that crazy Atom board from asrock that is ITX and has like 10 SATA ports? No, you'd need to use an expansion card. In general, mobo companies have not brought their A-game with AM4, particularly in the smaller form-factors (mITX and mATX). A lot of them are terrible, like doubled 3-phase type stuff, and they haven't done much of the specialty stuff. I hope there are some Banded Kestrel mITX boards, and I'd love to see one with an extra onboard SATA controller for NAS usage. On the Intel side there's the C2750D4i from the last gen, and for current-gen there's the SuperMicro A2SDi-H-TP4F, which is just nuts (quad 10 GbE, ECC RDIMM support, 12 SATA ports, and performs at R5 1600-ish levels). Denverton's capabilities are really in a class of its own as far as low-power processors. Banded Kestrel won't remotely approach that, however, it's a much simpler/cheaper product. I'd expect something more in the C2750 performance level from Banded Kestrel. Paul MaudDib fucked around with this message at 20:05 on Feb 23, 2018 |
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Combat Pretzel posted:Some none ugly rear end gently caress mainboards would be swell. There has never been such a thing. NZXT is making motherboards for people who want their computers to look like they came from IKEA.
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# ? Feb 23, 2018 22:01 |
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which is fine, except that the motherboards they're selling are rebranded ECS motherboards. No loving thank YOU, NZXT. You picked the motherboard manufacturer with the WORST reputation of all to work with, surely that will end well.
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# ? Feb 23, 2018 22:28 |
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Scarping the bottom of the barrel, NZXT finds Jetway and Biostar leering back at them. "Is this deep enough yet boss?" "No, go deeper still."
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# ? Feb 23, 2018 22:39 |
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"PC Chips it is."
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# ? Feb 23, 2018 22:49 |
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Am I the only goon that has always had good experiences with ECS
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# ? Feb 23, 2018 23:33 |
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So far I've been unable to get my Liva X to boot to Linux from the onboard eMMC, but apparently it'll work with mSATA drives. I lost my packet of mSATA screws and they mailed me a couple more for free. So a little from column A, a little from column B.
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# ? Feb 23, 2018 23:37 |
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Rastor posted:Am I the only goon that has always had good experiences with ECS i probably bought 50 K7S5A's over the years to build computers for friends/family. good rear end board. i would go as far as to say the 2nd most legendary motherboard behind only the BH6.
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# ? Feb 23, 2018 23:49 |
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I would unironically use a Biostar X370GTN (that's their mITX board) if I had to slap together a cheapo HTPC long before I would touch an ECS in any shape, size, or configuration.
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# ? Feb 23, 2018 23:56 |
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NIGARS posted:"PC Chips it is." I haven't heard that name in a long time. I do remember other shops selling those mobos too. Thing is, even back then PC Chips was the lowest of the low.
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# ? Feb 23, 2018 23:59 |
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Rastor posted:Am I the only goon that has always had good experiences with ECS As someone that worked at a returns counter for Fry's Electronics while some bad poo poo was happening and boy let me tell you how bad those boards were.
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# ? Feb 24, 2018 00:52 |
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8-bit Miniboss posted:As someone that worked at a returns counter for Fry's Electronics while some bad poo poo was happening and boy let me tell you how bad those boards were. Because paywalls are dumb: quote:A one-time computer salesman who rose through the ranks to help build Fry’s Electronics into a robust retailer is facing allegations that he defrauded the San Jose company out of $65 million, much of which he used to pay off enormous gambling debts in Las Vegas.
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# ? Feb 24, 2018 02:02 |
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Why are these fraudsters are always too smart and too dumb at the same time
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Palladium posted:Why are these fraudsters are always too smart and too dumb at the same time They have a problem (gambling debt) find a way out of it (skimming money) say they aren't going to keep doing it so they don't need an exit plan. The money is too good so they keep doing it since no one even said boo. Years pass, they forget they are doing anything wrong and they get caught. In their mind they got away with it long ago and this is normal. That's when it all goes wrong.
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# ? Feb 24, 2018 02:22 |
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Everything this Fry's guy did, except he's a banker selling securities products and nobody in law enforcement in the US cares
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# ? Feb 24, 2018 03:35 |
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NIGARS posted:"PC Chips it is." Ah, the classiest of them all, with their fake cache chips 'n' all. But didn't they get bought out by ECS?
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HalloKitty posted:Ah, the classiest of them all, with their fake cache chips 'n' all. IIRC, PC Chips bought ECS and took the name. I had a K7S5A and it was great, but I get the impression that the K7S5A was a huge fluke and they've never made a board anywhere near that good before or since.
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# ? Feb 24, 2018 11:51 |
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Craptacular! posted:There has never been such a thing. NZXT is making motherboards for people who want their computers to look like they came from IKEA.
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# ? Feb 24, 2018 21:51 |
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Combat Pretzel posted:I wouldn't mind gaudy mainboards, if there were decent window-less cases. But we can't have that poo poo either. loving PCMR crowd. Sure there are, you just need to come with me, to the magical land... of Sweden. Seriously, Fractal Design sells plenty of cases with non-windowed panels. Just get ones that don't have TG or Window in the name.
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# ? Feb 24, 2018 21:53 |
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Fractal Design is the answer to most case-related questions, honestly.
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# ? Feb 24, 2018 22:22 |
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HalloKitty posted:Fractal Design is the answer to most case-related questions, honestly. I'd agree if mine didn't have a useless door on the front that I can't shut without blocking all the fans and open keeps me from sticking it in the cubby on my desk for a computer. ...I may be mildly still annoyed over the front of the case spontaneously popping off when I tilted it slightly to get at the back to plug in HDMI recently and unplugging a bunch of cables that were a pain to reinstall, although that's partially on ASUS for the insanely short USB header cables.
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# ? Feb 24, 2018 22:32 |
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gourdcaptain posted:I'd agree if mine didn't have a useless door on the front that I can't shut without blocking all the fans I don't know which case you have, but it most likely has intakes on the sides of the front bezel where air is drawn in. The door is to remove a direct path for the sound, the foam to dampen higher frequencies HalloKitty fucked around with this message at 22:42 on Feb 24, 2018 |
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I measured my Define S with the front of the case on and off under mprime and the overall difference was about 1-2C.
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# ? Feb 24, 2018 22:41 |
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Antec Gaming Series One is alright, though I wish it had some 2.5" bays. Just built a machine for work with one. You can easily route all your cables behind the motherboard for a nice clean setup, plenty of places for zip ties to lock stuff down. The Corsair Carbide is nice if you just want a desktop monolith(I use this one at home) with the same behind the motherboard management. They always show off the windowed one but you can get a solid one too.
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Measly Twerp posted:I measured my Define S with the front of the case on and off under mprime and the overall difference was about 1-2C. Still should have gotten a full ATX case for the amount of stuff I crammed in there, though.
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SwissArmyDruid posted:Sure there are, you just need to come with me, to the magical land... of Sweden. Seriously, Fractal Design sells plenty of cases with non-windowed panels. Just get ones that don't have TG or Window in the name.
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# ? Feb 24, 2018 22:58 |
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Out of the current windowless cases, I like this one for being even sleeker than Fractal's cases: http://www.corsair.com/en-us/carbide-series-quiet-400q-compact-mid-tower-case-cc-9011100-ww
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Llamadeus posted:Out of the current windowless cases, I like this one for being even sleeker than Fractal's cases: http://www.corsair.com/en-us/carbide-series-quiet-400q-compact-mid-tower-case-cc-9011100-ww $20 cheaper too. This is the one I was talking about above.
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Combat Pretzel posted:I wouldn't mind gaudy mainboards, if there were decent window-less cases. But we can't have that poo poo either. loving PCMR crowd. Silverstone Raven RV02. Even though it has a side window all the IO is on the top. You can push the side window side against a wall because the air intake is on bottom. It also makes for a great under desk floor PC because of the top IO.
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Combat Pretzel posted:I wouldn't mind gaudy mainboards, if there were decent window-less cases. But we can't have that poo poo either. loving PCMR crowd. My Phanteks P400S disagrees.
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Combat Pretzel posted:I feel meh about them at best. I kind of want a NZXT S340 without a window. You'd figure you get the case and a solid spare panel. Latter is kind of tricky, it appears. Our collective point is, if the sudden flurry of activity that this thread never sees unless something major happens in terms of AMD news is any indication, is that you weren't looking hard enough for cases that don't cater to the RGB-everything crowd. SwissArmyDruid fucked around with this message at 04:59 on Feb 25, 2018 |
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Llamadeus posted:Out of the current windowless cases, I like this one for being even sleeker than Fractal's cases: http://www.corsair.com/en-us/carbide-series-quiet-400q-compact-mid-tower-case-cc-9011100-ww I have one. Got it to make a secondary PC out of all the reasonably-usable spare parts I had left. The main problem with both that one and the Define S is that dust filters behind a solid, not-easily-removable front panel suck. On my main PC I want to clean the dust filters every 2-3 months, good luck with that when you have to pry off the front panel. Considering the price I was kinda disappointed, there's some nice stuff but some big downsides like the HD cage being tiny and cramped. (this seems to be a problem with lots of cases now that everyone is trying to cram them beneath those stupid PSU shields. the 400Q comes with a PSU shield, for a non-windowed case. I threw it in the trash.) Also IMHO corsair's drive sled system sucks, the sleds are cheesy plastic and have pathetic vibration dampening. However this is a place where I admittedly have extremely high standards, since my main PC for the last almost 10 years has been in a P182, the case with the best vibration-dampening ever devised.
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# ? Feb 25, 2018 00:59 |
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I just use my brush attachment on the vacuum cleaner to clean off my front case filter. I suppose it's possible I could damage the fan behind it, but so far so good.
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Jago posted:I just use my brush attachment on the vacuum cleaner to clean off my front case filter. I suppose it's possible I could damage the fan behind it, but so far so good. As long as the PC is off it should be fine. You're spinning the fans backwards but it doesn't spin them super hard unless you leave the vacuum sucking for minutes. But you can't vacuum when there's a solid front panel in the way, which is difficult to remove and held to the case by plastic clips which will eventually break because it stresses them every time you pull the thing off. The 400Q and the Define S both have this problem.
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Klyith posted:The main problem with both that one and the Define S is that dust filters behind a solid, not-easily-removable front panel suck. On my main PC I want to clean the dust filters every 2-3 months, good luck with that when you have to pry off the front panel. The Define S front panel is easy to remove though? Just pull it off. The connections aren't that strong, more than enough that the front panel is securely attached but not enough to be difficult to remove. The downsides to the define S are the lack of dust filters if you open the top vents and the bottom dust filter being inaccessible from the front or side.
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# ? Feb 27, 2018 18:33 |
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I still haven't figured out how to take off the front of my 400Q, so I can see breaking clips being a thing with that one.
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# ? Feb 27, 2018 19:03 |
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Obsurveyor posted:I still haven't figured out how to take off the front of my 400Q, so I can see breaking clips being a thing with that one. I have the bigger brother of the 400Q and I can't get the drat top and PSU cover off
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Obsurveyor posted:I still haven't figured out how to take off the front of my 400Q, so I can see breaking clips being a thing with that one. Just pull hard. Start from the top and try to have even force on both sides so it opens from top down rather than left-right. IIRC the first time I got it off I had to put my knee on the top of the case to kinda brace it, but after that it goes easier. Desuwa posted:The Define S front panel is easy to remove though? Just pull it off. The connections aren't that strong, more than enough that the front panel is securely attached but not enough to be difficult to remove. OK, I don't have one and have only seen a regular Define in person. But it looks in all the pics like the clips that hold it on are plastic, so even if they're not as stiff and difficult as the 400Q's, that is still liable to break after repeated stress.
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