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VJeff posted:There's something to it but it was so badly undercut by him going "well y'know Seth beat me because I'm so busy doing so many awesome things besides wrestling!" Uh huh, I think you missed the point of that promo. Cena was saying he lost because he's not as focused on wrestling as he should be going into a big match.
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So what's the full story on this: https://twitter.com/alejandro_jr92/status/967844829165178885 https://twitter.com/davemeltzerWON/status/967856509869633536 https://twitter.com/HeyHeyItsConrad/status/967858044666224641 I thought it was widely accepted that Jerry Jarrett would have taken over but Prichard and Patterson dispute it. I'm curious if anyone here knows what Patterson said exactly. I've never heard of this guy but he shared a link to his podcast interviewing Jerry and he basically confirms Meltzer's side(44 minutes in): https://twitter.com/DustinStarr/status/967859333294972928 http://www.cerritolive.com/cerrito-live-podcasts/cerrito-live-podcast-jerry-jarrett-talks-about-chicken-salad-bruce-prichard/
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schweens posted:So what's the full story on this: Mitigating factor: as we all know the Jarrett family are notoriously carny folk who are abundantly full of poo poo. That said, Jerry was pretty successful in the 80's, it's not THAT hard to believe.
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mitigating mitigating factor: bruce pritchard is full of poo poo *especially* when it comes to being contrary to whatever meltzer says
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Feb 26, 2018 00:29
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All wrestlers are full of poo poo with the possible exception of Molly Holly
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Like 90% of Prichard's Dave rants are a work, I don't know how people keep buying it
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Benne posted:Like 90% of Prichard's Dave rants are a work, I don't know how people keep buying it wrestling fans have a long history of believing works are actually shoots that said it is impressive how quickly conrad and prichard have built up a cult following. theres a legion of people on twitter who just blindly believe everything bruce says because 'he was there' or w/e
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People want to believe shoots are works too Montreal, benoit, etc
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Hell, a lot of WRESTLERS think shoots are works. See the million guys who still think Montreal was a work, or Taz swearing Ronda's loss to Holm was worked.
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Smoking Crow posted:People want to believe shoots are works too Kevin Sullivan was behind both of those.
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There's actual evidence that Jarrett was going to be used for that role. Prichard is just doing his thing.
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MassRafTer posted:There's actual evidence that Jarrett was going to be used for that role. Prichard is just doing his thing. Can you elaborate, or are you saving it for the podcast?
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i get frustrated with conrad because i like his show and prichard's recollections are actually a pretty important primary source for a poorly documented business that relies on opacity but the whole thing is twisted around to be 'prichard's facts vs dirtsheet lies' and the fans eat it up because they wanna be part of the show, and the hosts play into it because i guess its good business and helps sell shirts
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MassRafTer posted:There's actual evidence that Jarrett was going to be used for that role. Prichard is just doing his thing. I assumed Prichard's story was bullshit. He's straight up lied on his podcast before. Conrad bringing up Patterson made me curious. At this point its obvious that Prichard is trying to play to the segment of fans who don't trust Meltzer and have the mentality of "only former workers/bookers opinions are valid".
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El Gallinero Gros posted:Can you elaborate, or are you saving it for the podcast? Beyond the prior consistent statements from multiple people you have the USWA/WWF working relationship and I think Jarrett even briefly lived in Stamford. Might be misremembering that one.
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Also the fact that Pritchard is a known liar
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SatoshiMiwa posted:Also the fact that Pritchard is a known liar Yes, we already established he has worked in the pro wrestling industry.
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SatoshiMiwa posted:Also the fact that Pritchard is a known liar I mean, so is Jarrett. I think MRT's stuff is a bit more substantial
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Not that I know any better, but it seems that good will towards Jerry is only reason why Jeff has ever had a career.
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I have the Network and I want to start watching NXT. What I don't want to do is watch the lame reality show era. How far into the program, leading up to NXT Arrival, is the best place to start?
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Amy Renee posted:I have the Network and I want to start watching NXT. What I don't want to do is watch the lame reality show era. How far into the program, leading up to NXT Arrival, is the best place to start? You basically want to start around NXT Arrival in February 2014 to get good NXT. That's when they began shifting NXT to a "What if you could get actual good indy wrestling in WWE" idea. By December of that year it's really taking off into the new format and starting to do "dream signings" on the reg.
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My favorite Jarret family story is Christine Jarrett being friend's with Cornette's mom, and him waking up sometimes and coming into the kitchen and finding her snapping peas.
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MassRafTer posted:Beyond the prior consistent statements from multiple people you have the USWA/WWF working relationship and I think Jarrett even briefly lived in Stamford. Might be misremembering that one. He did, and he drank like a fish up there because he was so miserable in the Northeast. According to Cornette, Vince wanted Jarrett because of their working relationship, Jarrett's track record, and the fact that Jarrett was a notorious cheapskate who, at the very least, wouldn't spend the WWE out of business while Vince was in prison.
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My guess is that if Jones gets a 4 year USADA suspension (most likely outcome) he will wrestle. UFC doesn't really view WWE as competition since they've already taken their entire casual fanbase, and Jones is gonna need the money. An interesting but less likely possibility: Jones hosed up badly in the CSAC hearing and incriminated himself and his management team in basically flouting USADA's previous punishment. He may have talked himself into a lifetime ban. At that point UFC would likely terminate his contract and he would likely go fight in another country.
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Jenkem Delivery posted:My guess is that if Jones gets a 4 year USADA suspension (most likely outcome) he will wrestle. UFC doesn't really view WWE as competition since they've already taken their entire casual fanbase, and Jones is gonna need the money. UFC won't terminate his contract because then he'd be able to go to Bellator when he is able to reapply for a license in California. He's made a ton of money in his life, he may not need to wrestle. He's probably also spent a ton...
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El Gallinero Gros posted:Can you elaborate, or are you saving it for the podcast?
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MassRafTer posted:UFC won't terminate his contract because then he'd be able to go to Bellator when he is able to reapply for a license in California. He's made a ton of money in his life, he may not need to wrestle. He's probably also spent a ton... Would the CSAC reinstate his license if he got a lifetime USADA ban? This is all theoretical here, the likely scenario is the 4 year ban. Given how incompetent his management team looked yesterday it would not surprise me if they mismanaged his finances and pissed most of his money away. If he gets a 4 year ban wrestling is probably the most lucrative option available.
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Jenkem Delivery posted:Would the CSAC reinstate his license if he got a lifetime USADA ban? This is all theoretical here, the likely scenario is the 4 year ban. They signed Mir while he was under suspension, and I guess he'll fight a couple days after the USADA suspension ends but they don't give a poo poo, they'll book stuff in Texas or England or wherever.
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dont even fink about it posted:You basically want to start around NXT Arrival in February 2014 to get good NXT. That's when they began shifting NXT to a "What if you could get actual good indy wrestling in WWE" idea. By December of that year it's really taking off into the new format and starting to do "dream signings" on the reg. Yeah, the answer to watching NXT is basically pick a Takeover and then just follow the TV after that.
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oldpainless posted:In your opinion, is the Samoan drop a power move? No, but the pop up Samoan drop is
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oldpainless posted:In your opinion, is the Samoan drop a power move? Like, in a business meeting?
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St Evan Echoes posted:Like, in a business meeting? As a wrestling move in a wrestling ring during a wrestling match
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oldpainless posted:In your opinion, is the Samoan drop a power move? the way roman and the rock do it, where its all in one smooth motion, i'd say no, but if someone does like, gets them in position, holds it for a second, then falls back, yes.
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shiksa posted:the way roman and the rock do it, where its all in one smooth motion, i'd say no, but if someone does like, gets them in position, holds it for a second, then falls back, yes. Soooo... Tatanka stronger than Roman, is what you're saying?
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Gaz-L posted:Soooo... Tatanka stronger than Roman, is what you're saying? Buffaloes are stronger than big dogs.
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Gaz-L posted:Soooo... Tatanka stronger than Roman, is what you're saying? I mean, tatanka can successfully do a body slam on another wrestler so yes also "Papoose-to-go" RIP brain
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I've noticed more and more vitriol getting spewed at Dave Meltzer on just about every wrestling community I've seen, is there a reason why it's so trendy now? And not even the Elgin thing, most wrestling fans online don't give a gently caress from what I've seen. I've heard that Prichard says a lot of poo poo about him on his poo poo podcast
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