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facialimpediment posted:Minimal, since we're no longer in a Handel-Ossoff Special Election where shitloads of money were blown for just one house seat. Still, it would probably be a good idea to wait until after Primary Season is over. https://mic.com/articles/186648/is-the-democratic-congressional-campaign-committee-stifling-dissent-within-the-party ^ posted this earlier but DCCC money comes with ridiculous strings attached. If you want real change, the primaries are the most important time to pay attention and give time and money to the candidates that best represent you. We desperately need a left version of the Tea Party. If there's one silver lining to Trump it's exposing once and for all that american political parties have no actual control over who their candidates will be and if you can force your guy through a primary they'll be stuck with him no matter what. It's the only way to get anywhere. shame on an IGA fucked around with this message at 03:35 on Feb 26, 2018 |
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shame on an IGA posted:If you want real change, the primaries are the most important time to pay attention and give time and money to the candidates that best represent you. We desperately need a left version of the Tea Party. You very well might be right, but the big question that the 2018 general election will decide: Who has the easier chance of winning a slightly-Trumpy district, a hard-left Democrat or a Mushy Moderate Motherfucker? No matter what, Trump is still the President and any policies have to run through him, so anything good proposed by a Better Democrat won't get through. I have the "bigger fish to fry" / "just win, baby" viewpoint. I don't give a drat about the policy or ideological lean the Democratic nominee puts forward so long as a house of Congress goes Democrat. $100 to the Democratic nominee is likely more useful than $100 to a primary candidate that could lose. Primary the mushy moderates in 2020, bigger fish to fry right now.
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shame on an IGA posted:^ posted this earlier but DCCC money comes with ridiculous strings attached. If you want real change, the primaries are the most important time to pay attention and give time and money to the candidates that best represent you. We desperately need a left version of the Tea Party. The response to anti-democratic political radicalism is not to engage in the same behaviour in reverse.
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The Iron Rose posted:The response to anti-democratic political radicalism is not to engage in the same behaviour in reverse. Think he means have some hard left mindsets to drag the party towards standing for something and having a spine by presenting a valid primary from the left option. If their entire presence in Congress can just be run over and counted on to cave then it's not a valid opposition party. The tea party definitely showed the GOP that milquetoast centrism would only go so far.
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Apparently Allison Hollister or something similar is a reasonable candidate besides De Leon. One is more in line with how the current mood is, and the other is going to be a target because he is the son of an immigrant, regardless of what stance he has. “Of course he supports DREAMERs, he’s an immigrant!”
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Soulex posted:Apparently Allison Hollister or something similar is a reasonable candidate besides De Leon. One is more in line with how the current mood is, and the other is going to be a target because he is the son of an immigrant, regardless of what stance he has. “Of course he supports DREAMERs, he’s an immigrant!” A mixed race Latino would probably sell pretty well in CA and support for DACA is pretty high here so that probably wouldn't be a huge detraction. He is basically the embodiment of the American dream. Side note: My college is one of the most expensive CSUs and we have a proposal to levy a fee on out of state students rising each year for the next four years to 8000 or so. It would give low income/minority students grants for non-fee costs. Curious how it will be viewed and what effect it will have on the student body.
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lightpole posted:A mixed race Latino would probably sell pretty well in CA
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There's extremely conservative pockets around the state but those only matter for house seats. I'm not sure that those kind of attacks would be able to gain much traction. After all, the Dem primary will decide that seat unless a Roy Moore episode happens to the party. What really matters is how that contest is fought, whether it's a push to the extreme or a focus on centrism. Either way, I'm just hoping for a younger senator.
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Vasudus posted:Regardless of her policy stances, I want her out because she's You left out "repeatedly advocates for giving a blank check to the surveillance state" and "is part of 'fundamentally misunderstands encryption' krew"
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Proud Christian Mom posted:if you took away her gun control stance Feinstein would be a 2000s Republican This is essentially accurate.
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mlmp08 posted:This is essentially accurate. Californian Democrats can be weird as gently caress and all over the political spectrum.
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Noted fatass, Kevin Smith, survived a heart attack last night.
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ElMaligno posted:Californian Democrats can be weird as gently caress and all over the political spectrum. The ones with money(ie the ones the represents) are just Republicans who get a little squeamish when it comes to gassing the gays.
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CRUSTY MINGE posted:Noted fatass, Kevin Smith, survived a heart attack last night. Post the jorts Also Georgia house passes bill banning gays and lesbians from adopting Allah akbar
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Waroduce posted:Post the jorts  Yeah, my loving state. I hope someone jumps on suing it fast.
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Dang, one of my former co-workers and good friend is from GA and he and his husband both adopted a kid this past year. They live in IN right now but were talking about moving back to GA next year. Wonder what they are gonna do now or if this would only apply going forward.
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CRUSTY MINGE posted:From the jorts themselves, He's gonna look funny as gently caress in those jorts when he loses weight (assuming he does take home the lesson from that heart attack, that is)
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That Works posted:Dang, one of my former co-workers and good friend is from GA and he and his husband both adopted a kid this past year. They live in IN right now but were talking about moving back to GA next year. Wonder what they are gonna do now or if this would only apply going forward. Its only going to apply moving forward and is a 'Religious Freedom' bill in that it applies only to groups that want the ban. But there's very little chance the ban will stick and I fully expect them to get sued.
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That Works posted:They live in IN right now but were talking about moving back to GA next year. Wonder what they are gonna do now or if this would only apply going forward. You seriously think the government would confiscate the kids of people coming in from out of state? Really? A state can't tear up a birth certificate or adoption contract, regardless of the bills they pass. Ex post facto laws haven't ever been a valid thing, it's only been that way for hundreds of years. Poppyseed Poundcake fucked around with this message at 15:35 on Feb 26, 2018 |
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Poppyseed Poundcake posted:You seriously think the government would confiscate the kids of people coming in from out of state? Really? A state can't tear up a birth certificate or adoption contract, regardless of the bills they pass. No, but I wouldn't put it past them to make things harder on the people that have done so going forward. Ie, having an extremely low threshold for getting CPS involved for them vs non-homosexual adopted cases.
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Poppyseed Poundcake posted:You seriously think the government would confiscate the kids of people coming in from out of state? Really? A state can't tear up a birth certificate or adoption contract, regardless of the bills they pass. Ex post facto laws haven't ever been a valid thing, it's only been that way for hundreds of years. ....well, you say that: Alabama, Arkansas, and a couple others are trying to do just that by basically trying to negate gay marriage certificates or even make it more difficult to defend gay adoptions in courts. They've also been trying to make it easier for CPS to take kids from gay families out of 'concern'.
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FAUXTON posted:He's gonna look funny as gently caress in those jorts when he loses weight (assuming he does take home the lesson from that heart attack, that is) He dropped 80+ lbs over the past couple of years. I think he put a few back on, but dude is fairly normal sized now. And still wears the jorts and jerseys.
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The Supreme Court officially declined to immediately hear Trump challenges to the DACA hold and the Travel/Muslim ban. They'd rather it all get gummed up in the appeals process. Don't know how long that will keep Trump hosed on both issues, but it'll be a while. https://twitter.com/AaronBlake/status/968134318601187328
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Godholio posted:He dropped 80+ lbs over the past couple of years. I think he put a few back on, but dude is fairly normal sized now. And still wears the jorts and jerseys. That's pretty impressive, can't say I've sought out news or anything but most of the press images of him that I've seen seem to be older ones from some years back where he's heavier/dressed like Silent Bob.
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FAUXTON posted:That's pretty impressive, can't say I've sought out news or anything but most of the press images of him that I've seen seem to be older ones from some years back where he's heavier/dressed like Silent Bob. I listen to a couple of his podcasts, and occasionally it comes up at a live show. He cut all sugar out of his diet for quite a while, but he never really dwelt on it except for very early on when it sucked before his body adjusted. You could tell he hated it, but he kept trying to keep it in perspective by talking about Mewes kicking heroin and all his poo poo. Edit: Silent Bob dressed mostly like him. That was his actual coat. Edit2: V Oh, no question. Dude was fat as gently caress for decades. Godholio fucked around with this message at 16:14 on Feb 26, 2018 |
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Godholio posted:He dropped 80+ lbs over the past couple of years. I think he put a few back on, but dude is fairly normal sized now. And still wears the jorts and jerseys. Yeah I think the damage was already done, though. Hope he keeps up the healthy thing.
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facialimpediment posted:The Supreme Court officially declined to immediately hear Trump challenges to the DACA hold and the Travel/Muslim ban. They'd rather it all get gummed up in the appeals process. Eh ICE is going to start rounding them up regardless. Who’s going to stop them?
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MA-Horus posted:You guys make it sound like you wouldn't walk around in wife-beaters and silkies all day if you had Kevin Smith's money. What do you mean wouldn't? I walked around in silkies all the time on weekends on beaches and boats around kbay and im not even a marine. Comfortable as hell.
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Laranzu posted:Think he means have some hard left mindsets to drag the party towards standing for something and having a spine by presenting a valid primary from the left option. The lesson you should take away from the tea party is not that you have to hurtle towards one end of the spectrum; it's the one that Indivisible took away immediately after the 2016 elections. The Tea Party was effective because it 1) had coherent, unified messaging and 2) put direct pressure on local politicians to do what they wanted them to do. Now, much to Iron Rose, known goblin's, chagrin, the groups that seem to be coming closest to that strategy are further left than who Iron Rose brunches with, yaaasss, but who knows if it sustains momentum.
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Johnny Five-Jaces posted:The lesson you should take away from the tea party is not that you have to hurtle towards one end of the spectrum; it's the one that Indivisible took away immediately after the 2016 elections. The Tea Party was effective because it 1) had coherent, unified messaging and 2) put direct pressure on local politicians to do what they wanted them to do. Radical Centrism however is a bottomless pit of momentum. Its the lettuce of the candidate salad. Not good on its own but making up way to much of the serving. And I've started to think of the terminology in different ways, groupings of democrats in a way. Centrism is 'this is fine' inaction until the winds of the rest of the party blow one way or the other. Progressive means you want constant slow positive change, such as opt in medicare and better education funding, and political maneuvers to get a little bit each year. And Radical Leftism is medicare for all and UBI and such as fast as possible with as little time for conservatives to adjust or roll things back before its benefits sink in.
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https://twitter.com/ZekeJMiller/status/968155353912369152 Riiiiiiiight
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