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davidspackage
May 16, 2007

Nap Ghost

GrandpaPants posted:

Not a movie, but still has me asking why:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l8B5dqjsZUs

Wow. This looks like a fake trailer made by fans. Awful.

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edogawa rando
Mar 20, 2007

GrandpaPants posted:

Not a movie, but still has me asking why:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l8B5dqjsZUs

Is it meant to look cheap?

Carthag Tuek
Oct 15, 2005

Tider skal komme,
tider skal henrulle,
slægt skal følge slægters gang



Vagabundo posted:

Is it meant to look cheap?

They're going for the look of the lovely 1990s compter animated show.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YYkxC4mraBQ

my younger siblings watched it

Sirotan
Oct 17, 2006

Sirotan is a seal.


"Hey Netflix, I want a super sentai live action version of Reboot!!" said literally no one ever.

Reboot loving ruled (just pretend season 4 never happened), but I can't even begin to understand why someone thought this was a good idea. Do pre-teens even know what Reboot is? Just, why??

Deakul
Apr 2, 2012

PAM PA RAM

PAM PAM PARAAAAM!

GrandpaPants posted:

Not a movie, but still has me asking why:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l8B5dqjsZUs

gently caress this gay earth

ghostwritingduck
Aug 26, 2004

"I hope you like waking up at 6 a.m. and having your favorite things destroyed. P.S. Forgive me because I'm cuter than that $50 wire I just ate."
Reboot and Captain America were the two shows that happened when I woke up too early Saturday mornings as a kid.

Wandle Cax
Dec 15, 2006
Gettin real mad about childrens TV

Gonz
Dec 22, 2009

"Jesus, did I say that? Or just think it? Was I talking? Did they hear me?"
“Hey kid, i’m a computer. Stop all the downloadin’.”

help computer

Desperado Bones
Aug 29, 2009

Cute, adorable, and creepy at the same time!


Krankenstyle posted:

They're going for the look of the lovely 1990s compter animated show.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YYkxC4mraBQ

my younger siblings watched it

I'm your younger siblings.

Seriously, the animation was trash but for some weirdass reason I loved that show :psyduck:
And that trailer...I thought it was a parody.

The Peccadillo
Mar 4, 2013

We Have Important Work To Do
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OTu9N40E_MI

clown shoes
Jul 17, 2004

Nothing but clowns down here.
God drat it. I wish Tommy Wiseau would go away.

CelticPredator
Oct 11, 2013
🍀👽🆚🪖🏋

He is here to stay.

GrandpaPants
Feb 13, 2006


Free to roam the heavens in man's noble quest to investigate the weirdness of the universe!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UEhsFEgsI5U

Wasn't Fahrenheit 451 more intended about the dangers of new media (film/television) rather than any sort of reverence for books? I vaguely recall a possibly apocryphal quote stating something along those lines from Bradbury himself, but obviously culture took a different spin on it.

GrandpaPants fucked around with this message at 21:57 on Feb 26, 2018

CelticPredator
Oct 11, 2013
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Bit soon for an Equilibrium remake isn’t it?

:v:

AlternateAccount
Apr 25, 2005
FYGM

CelticPredator posted:

I won't be doing this all that much, but I will say the reasons why the 80's poo poo is all over the place is kind of interesting and makes sense. The Wonka Like man died and has that egg contest thing, and everyone consumes his diaries for clues where he hid it. It's full of 80's poo poo, so everyone gets into it too just so they could try and get the egg thing. The book picks up a few years after his death so it became part of the culture (again)

I'm like, alright. That's kinda a lot more interesting than I thought. But then the main character is such a stupid nerd that i hate him just out right. He has this long rant about how life is a lie and Jesus is a lie and Heaven is a lie, ect...but video games are good because I can escape that. Also I'm the best.

Ahhhh. This isn't a character. This is the author.

LORD OF BOOTY posted:

i don't think anyone's really fantasizing here. the worldview exhibited by his books is a really genuinely awful one that he's voiced support for in nonfictional contexts.

e: like, he's a stupid dork who wrote a bad book, but then you start picking apart why the book is bad beyond the obvious, and hooooooly blistering gently caress. Ernest Cline is basically a guy who saw the society depicted by Snow Crash and went "yeah, this but unironically!" and didn't realize that Snow Crash was meant to be a loving dystopia, not a utopia.

Ernest is trash and his book is trash, but it spawned a pretty good podcast: http://372pages.com

CelticPredator
Oct 11, 2013
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Yeah that’s what got me to read the book.

I just finished the book. I love how the themes of the book, obsession, control, do not mesh at all with the ending in anyway shape or form.

I also love how there’s a random button to destroy the oasis for some reason because...uh...

It isn’t used or anything. It’s just there. Which fits more with the book than the ending did.

GrandpaPants
Feb 13, 2006


Free to roam the heavens in man's noble quest to investigate the weirdness of the universe!

CelticPredator posted:

It isn’t used or anything. It’s just there.

So like the references throughout?

sponges
Sep 15, 2011

clown shoes posted:

God drat it. I wish Tommy Wiseau would go away.

He’s just the worst.

CelticPredator
Oct 11, 2013
🍀👽🆚🪖🏋

GrandpaPants posted:

So like the references throughout?
That’s the point I was trying to make yeah.

Imagine someone playing a game and then writing down how they played the game. That’s how it is.

I don’t get it.

cvnvcnv
Mar 17, 2013

__________________

clown shoes posted:

God drat it. I wish Tommy Wiseau would go away.

Wth kind of life are you living that he's unavoidable?

AlternateAccount
Apr 25, 2005
FYGM

cvnvcnv posted:

Wth kind of life are you living that he's unavoidable?

Ha ha ha.

zandert33
Sep 20, 2002

cvnvcnv posted:

Wth kind of life are you living that he's unavoidable?

Clown Shoes is secretly Greg Sestero

MonsieurChoc
Oct 12, 2013

Every species can smell its own extinction.

GrandpaPants posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UEhsFEgsI5U

Wasn't Fahrenheit 451 more intended about the dangers of new media (film/television) rather than any sort of reverence for books? I vaguely recall a possibly apocryphal quote stating something along those lines from Bradbury himself, but obviously culture took a different spin on it.

Gotta be hard to have to go up against François Truffaut.

davidspackage
May 16, 2007

Nap Ghost

CelticPredator posted:

Bit soon for an Equilibrium remake isn’t it?

:v:

My body is ready for Flamethrower Kata.

Jedit
Dec 10, 2011

Proudly supporting vanilla legends 1994-2014

CelticPredator posted:

Bit soon for an Equilibrium remake isn’t it?

:v:

It's been over 15 years since Equilibrium, and people are still making jokes about it. Can't you pick on Ultraviolet instead?

CelticPredator
Oct 11, 2013
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Jedit posted:

It's been over 15 years since Equilibrium, and people are still making jokes about it. Can't you pick on Ultraviolet instead?

it is on.

asecondduck
Feb 18, 2011

by Nyc_Tattoo

Jedit posted:

It's been over 15 years since Equilibrium, and people are still making jokes about it. Can't you pick on Ultraviolet instead?

Equilibrium stars Christian Bale, who is usually only in "good" movies.

Though I'll admit that I like Equilibrium more than I should, and I have a feeling other people do too.

The MSJ
May 17, 2010

Before John Wick, Equilibrium had the best scene where a gun wizard kills people for a dog.

Mierenneuker
Apr 28, 2010


We're all going to experience changes in our life but only the best of us will qualify for front row seats.

You could do worse than Equilibrium. You could be doing Equals, which also features an emotionless society but with none of the shooting and faceslicing.

Megaman's Jockstrap
Jul 16, 2000

What a horrible thread to have a post.
Equilibrium made a new way to do gunfights (after 80-odd years) and should be respected simply on that basis.

Proteus Jones
Feb 28, 2013



Megaman's Jockstrap posted:

Equilibrium made a new way to do gunfights (after 80-odd years) and should be respected simply on that basis.

You mean the aping of Jon Woo’s 80s and 90s action movies?

Megaman's Jockstrap
Jul 16, 2000

What a horrible thread to have a post.

Proteus Jones posted:

You mean the aping of Jon Woo’s 80s and 90s action movies?

It's actually different in important ways, if you actually look at how Woo shoots action it's very dynamic, the characters are always in motion, walking, ducking, moving from side to side, leaping, it's extremely kinetic. Equilibrium is built around posing and minimal motion, characters stay on their feet (often planting them) and do "moves" and guys die, it's called "gun kata" for a reason. Both have elements of dance but that's an extremely wide space to play in. I absolutely think that there's no Kurt Wimmer without John Woo but calling it "aping" of him is facile.

Proteus Jones
Feb 28, 2013



Megaman's Jockstrap posted:

It's actually different in important ways, if you actually look at how Woo shoots action it's very dynamic, the characters are always in motion, walking, ducking, moving from side to side, leaping, it's extremely kinetic. Equilibrium is built around posing and minimal motion, characters stay on their feet (often planting them) and do "moves" and guys die, it's called "gun kata" for a reason. Both have elements of dance but that's an extremely wide space to play in. I absolutely think that there's no Kurt Wimmer without John Woo but calling it "aping" of him is facile.

I was really more taking issue with your “a new way to do gunfights (after 80-odd years)” as if all gunfight choreography and staging has been stuck in stasis since the 30s.

Equilibrium is more iterative than innovative. The Matrix Bullet Time is innovative. “Gun Kata” is simply the next step from the hyper-kinetic Hong Kong style of gun play, melding Kung Fu with gunplay. Hell you can even see it’s precursor in the first Matrix movie.

Most of the gun “fights” were ridiculous to the point of parody, but there were some flashes of genius in there I will admit that. The movie as a whole is a not bad reimagining of Fahrenheit 451.

Lobok
Jul 13, 2006

Say Watt?

Megaman's Jockstrap posted:

It's actually different in important ways, if you actually look at how Woo shoots action it's very dynamic, the characters are always in motion, walking, ducking, moving from side to side, leaping, it's extremely kinetic. Equilibrium is built around posing and minimal motion, characters stay on their feet (often planting them) and do "moves" and guys die, it's called "gun kata" for a reason. Both have elements of dance but that's an extremely wide space to play in. I absolutely think that there's no Kurt Wimmer without John Woo but calling it "aping" of him is facile.

Woo, maybe being the best at it, still ultimately has his characters moving and dodging hoping that they don't get hit. Which is pretty much what every other regular human character does in other movies or TV. Equilibrium (and whatever that Art of War movie was around the same time?) IIRC had its characters get out of the way of the actual path of the bullet that they could predict based on where the opponent's gun was. Like if each gun had a laser sight they were moving so that the laser never crossed their body, the same way a martial artist would dodge attacks from a regular weapon.

Punkin Spunkin
Jan 1, 2010
Equilibrium is more fun than john wick
Fight me
With gun kata

Taintrunner
Apr 10, 2017

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Punkin Spunkin posted:

Equilibrium is more fun than john wick
Fight me
With gun kata

john wick 2, sure. john wick 1 no lol

the only good thing to come out of Equilibrium was the Max Payne 2 mod and even then it was immensely stupid

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LZN3KmsLp4I

Megaman's Jockstrap
Jul 16, 2000

What a horrible thread to have a post.
Equilibruim's fusion of cinematic martial art and gunplay seems obvious in retrospect, but it really isn't. The reality is that nobody had done stuff like that, there's nothing that actually looks and plays like the scene where Bale backflips into some dudes and does bullet-punches. At the time I was absolutely blown away and I had seen every John Woo movie up to that point and most of the stuff he'd executive-produced (God of Gamblers and such). Time and backlash to the movie's inane plot has considerably dulled it's achievement, but it was an achievement.

Again nobody is arguing that Woo wasn't a tremendous influence, but it's not aping him. I'm not interested in playing semantic games to determine exactly how much iteration is required before Equilibrium becomes it's "own thing"; much like pornography it's something I know when I see it. Equilibrium did it's own thing, and did it very well.

BTW if you're reading what I'm saying as some sort of postulate that Equilibrium is an "evolution" of Woo style action ballet...don't.

Megaman's Jockstrap fucked around with this message at 19:31 on Feb 27, 2018

Punkin Spunkin
Jan 1, 2010
The John Wicks are great but there's something just more...sterile about them. He's just a dude really good at killing, and it's basically two movies worth of something that was done better in the Collateral club scene by Michael Mann and Tom Cruise.
There's something still unique and weird in a dumb fun way about the Equilibrium fights, and as megaman is saying they were different at the time too.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U02E2sjwlLM
#hottakecorner

Punkin Spunkin
Jan 1, 2010
Rewatching this actually I'm struck by how Tom cruise's character is tall enough to see over most of the people in the club
That's some peter Jackson lotr poo poo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tTcrJdZgyUk

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sponges
Sep 15, 2011

I don’t care how original the gunplay in Equilibrium is when the result is so embarasssing to watch.

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