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steinrokkan
Apr 2, 2011



Soiled Meat
A bunch of prominent dissidents persecuted by the Czechoslovak secret police made an official statement in support of Jeremy Corbyn:

"We were alarmed allegations have been made that Jeremy Corbyn, the Leader of the British Labour Party, was a confidant of the State Security of the communist Czechoslovakia. We were prosecuted by State Security because of our work for Charter 77 ourselves. We have learned about their methods from our own experience, and from the experience of our relatives and colleagues.

We thought the times when State Security could influence the lives of people in Czechoslovakia had ended in 1989. We consider it unacceptable that it could still influence the political situation even in other countries.

The claims by a former officer of the Czechoslovak State Security service, who operated in the 1980s in London with a diplomatic cover, underlined the dangers of uncritically accepting information given about its activities.

The credibility of this information was refuted by the director of the Czech Archive Světlana Ptáčníková. It was also exposed as apparently false by a leading Czech expert of that era Radek Schovánek. Their explanations are based on rock-solid evidence that excludes any possibility that the accusations against Jeremy Corbyn could be true.

Slovak courts recently ruled that testimonies of former informers and officers of the State Security of communist Czechoslovakia are a priori unreliable and useless. We strongly condemn the fact that some records, dozens of years old, could still be misused by the discredited ruins of the communist regime.

Signed: František Bublan, Petr Kajnar, Eva Kantůrková, Petr Pithart, Petr Pospíchal, Jan Šabata, Petr Uhl

František Bublan is a member of the Czech Senate. He was the director of the Foreign Intelligence Service.
Petr Kajnar is a politician. He was a mayor of Ostrava, third largest Czech town.
Eva Kantůrková is a Czech author. She was a spokesperson for Charter 77.
Petr Pithart was the first prime minister of the Czech Republic after the Revolution in 1989. For six years he served as the president of the Czech Senate.
Petr Pospíchal is a journalist and diplomat.
Jan Šabata is a publisher.
Petr Uhl is a journalist. He was the director of the Czech Press Agency."

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UrbicaMortis
Feb 16, 2012

Hmm, how shall I post today?

Jose posted:

the only one i remember from 2015 was Controls on Immigration

exmarx
Feb 18, 2012


The experience over the years
of nothing getting better
only worse.
jonathan pie is corny trash

Nonsense
Jan 26, 2007

Corby is a pie

DesperateDan
Dec 10, 2005

Where's my cow?

Is that my cow?

No it isn't, but it still tramples my bloody lavender.

Jose posted:

the only one i remember from 2015 was Controls on Immigration

It feels like so much longer ago we eddstoned the bacon sandwich because of his marxist dad

Wraith of J.O.I.
Jan 25, 2012


Nonsense posted:

Corby is a pie

a sweetie pie

Captain_Maclaine
Sep 30, 2001

Every moment I'm alive, I pray for death!

Frijolero posted:

https://twitter.com/jeremycorbyn/status/968170076213010432

This is some good as gently caress messaging imo

It is encouraging to see how after so recently fumbling badly on the messaging front that not only Labour has found a winning issue and is sticking to it, but it seems for once to come from a place of sincere belief, rather than cynical focus grouping of what seems most likely to win elections (but doesn't).

Frijolero
Jan 24, 2009

by Nyc_Tattoo
Austerity, more like rear end-terity.

jBrereton
May 30, 2013
Grimey Drawer

Frijolero posted:

Austerity, more like rear end-terity.
That's arsesterity in this thread, comrade.

I wish Labour had just gone with "For the Many" b/c the subclause is always delivered in a self-congratulating way tbh

CoolCab
Apr 17, 2005

glem

jBrereton posted:

That's arsesterity in this thread, comrade.

I wish Labour had just gone with "For the Many" b/c the subclause is always delivered in a self-congratulating way tbh

you have to be specific because "for the many" could describe like, any political slogan. the lib dems could run it it's meaningless it's "building a country that works for everyone". the subclause makes explicit a statement that "we will agitate for everyone even if that is to the determent of some privileged people"

Frijolero
Jan 24, 2009

by Nyc_Tattoo

jBrereton posted:

That's arsesterity in this thread, comrade.

:newdanger:

forkboy84
Jun 13, 2012

Corgis love bread. And Puro


https://twitter.com/cymrurouge/status/968151452978958336?ref_src=twcamp%5Ecopy%7Ctwsrc%5Eandroid%7Ctwgr%5Ecopy%7Ctwcon%5E7090%7Ctwterm%5E3

Can't quite wrap my head around the idea someone has an MA Journalism and yet somehow doesn't understand socialism has often been Internationalist in nature. What are they teaching in private schools these days? (aside from how to look like one of the Inbetweeners)

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.

CoolCab posted:

you have to be specific because "for the many" could describe like, any political slogan. the lib dems could run it it's meaningless it's "building a country that works for everyone". the subclause makes explicit a statement that "we will agitate for everyone even if that is to the determent of some privileged people"

Pretty sure the implicit 'gently caress rich people' is by far a net gain

A Buttery Pastry
Sep 4, 2011

Delicious and Informative!
:3:

forkboy84 posted:

https://twitter.com/cymrurouge/status/968151452978958336?ref_src=twcamp%5Ecopy%7Ctwsrc%5Eandroid%7Ctwgr%5Ecopy%7Ctwcon%5E7090%7Ctwterm%5E3

Can't quite wrap my head around the idea someone has an MA Journalism and yet somehow doesn't understand socialism has often been Internationalist in nature. What are they teaching in private schools these days? (aside from how to look like one of the Inbetweeners)
You've perhaps not heard of the truest expression of socialism; national socialism??

jBrereton
May 30, 2013
Grimey Drawer

CoolCab posted:

you have to be specific because "for the many" could describe like, any political slogan.
honestly m8 "Building for the future" with a plan to make 500,000 houses a year and some kind of national training scheme for builders, plasterers and so on as adult education and they win 400-500 seats.

This For The Many (brief pause) Not The Few thing, maybe they win if the tories don't show up again.

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer
crippling house prices to own the boomers ftw

TomViolence
Feb 19, 2013

PLEASE ASK ABOUT MY 80,000 WORD WALLACE AND GROMIT SLASH FICTION. PLEASE.

to be fair the closest britain has experienced to socialism has been declining imperial relevance with a side order of social democracy so people could be forgiven for thinking democratic socialism is nationalist in its orientation by default

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer
they'll get it since afaik theres no monoply rules they'll fall afoul of

https://twitter.com/guardian/status...r%3D176%23pti36

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.

Jose posted:

crippling house prices to own the boomers ftw

'crippling'?

bump_fn
Apr 12, 2004

two of them

Jose posted:

crippling house prices to own the boomers ftw

yeah, we'll show those boomers by having their cheap housing extremely overvalued.. checkmate

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer

cause house prices to not be insanely inflated because people can actually afford to buy one now they're available

boomers will meltdown about their "investment" no long being worth as much as it was

bump_fn
Apr 12, 2004

two of them

Jose posted:

cause house prices to not be insanely inflated because people can actually afford to buy one now they're available

boomers will meltdown about their "investment" no long being worth as much as it was

thsi wont happen becasue they also control the lending industry lol

jBrereton
May 30, 2013
Grimey Drawer

bump_fn posted:

thsi wont happen becasue they also control the lending industry lol
There's quite a lot of pension funds that would like a 25 year bond from the British government, and they won't really care what it's used for, whether it's building houses or literally just giving it to the rich to no inflationary effect as has happened for the last ten years.

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer
https://twitter.com/faisalislam/status/968410247613186048

jBrereton
May 30, 2013
Grimey Drawer
love 2 reference things that 55 million people inside my own country would struggle to work out let alone all of Europe, since they aren't londoners.

MikeCrotch
Nov 5, 2011

I AM UNJUSTIFIABLY PROUD OF MY SPAGHETTI BOLOGNESE RECIPE

YES, IT IS AN INCREDIBLY SIMPLE DISH

NO, IT IS NOT NORMAL TO USE A PEPPERAMI INSTEAD OF MINCED MEAT

YES, THERE IS TOO MUCH SALT IN MY RECIPE

NO, I WON'T STOP SHARING IT

more like BOLLOCKnese

jBrereton posted:

honestly m8 "Building for the future" with a plan to make 500,000 houses a year and some kind of national training scheme for builders, plasterers and so on as adult education and they win 400-500 seats.

This For The Many (brief pause) Not The Few thing, maybe they win if the tories don't show up again.

nah

tory media etc. will just keep screaming "WHO'S GOING TO PAY FOR IT" with the implication that old people will

we are in an incredibly polarised moment in British political history, we're unlikely to see a real big landslide in the near future because of the death of the lib dems and the tories enormous vote floor

jBrereton
May 30, 2013
Grimey Drawer

MikeCrotch posted:

nah

tory media etc. will just keep screaming "WHO'S GOING TO PAY FOR IT" with the implication that old people will

we are in an incredibly polarised moment in British political history, we're unlikely to see a real big landslide in the near future because of the death of the lib dems and the tories enormous vote floor
They might have quite a big vote floor but at the same time there are still millions of people who didn't show up to rout this failed government last time because Labour's message was honestly all over the place. If they have a clear Thing to achieve it would help get votes from practical people.

DesperateDan
Dec 10, 2005

Where's my cow?

Is that my cow?

No it isn't, but it still tramples my bloody lavender.
The next election will be in part decided on whether enough old racists have died to sink the tories

Whatever the result is, the answer is not enough

Cerv
Sep 14, 2004

This is a silly post with little news value.

DesperateDan posted:

The next election will be in part decided on whether enough old racists have died to sink the tories

Whatever the result is, the answer is not enough

how long does this cold snap have to last do you think?

A Handed Missus
Aug 6, 2012


https://twitter.com/estwebber/status/968213885462437888
https://twitter.com/estwebber/status/968214991903035392

UrbicaMortis
Feb 16, 2012

Hmm, how shall I post today?


Love a bit of bants in the house of lords.

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer
https://twitter.com/peterwalker99/s...r%3D179%23pti31

Kurtofan
Feb 16, 2011

hon hon hon
Lol

augias
Apr 7, 2009


:thunk:

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer
i probably should have realised soon that what they wanted from brexit was the ability to reform the empire

jBrereton
May 30, 2013
Grimey Drawer
The Disgraced Liam Fox is past his sell by date but unfortunately Tess May is loving useless and a coward.

Whorelord
May 1, 2013

Jump into the well...

this government is out of date

Truga
May 4, 2014
Lipstick Apathy

Cerv posted:

cold snap?



i'm loving this frigid weather so much

SteelMentor
Oct 15, 2012

TOXIC
https://twitter.com/jimwaterson/status/968503247500701698

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Frijolero
Jan 24, 2009

by Nyc_Tattoo
There's 2 Jeremys and they work in opposite buildings, this is canon now

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