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Toops posted:Totally. It's a huge risk to do that much up-front design, because it could wind up being a tangled goat-gently caress. Or, it could all come together smooth and easy, and just not be fun. No matter how you do it, the project has to be run by very experienced people with clear vision, preternatural understanding of the market trends, and a history of being right. lmao star citizen. Even going and reading the Kickstarter pitch it's clear that it was run by a giant ego driven twat who was going to run this poo poo into the ground
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ManofManyAliases posted:Excuse me. I only drag my rear end on the carpet to dislodge those really stubborn dingles, ok? I told you not to sign you're posts
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Dumb wannabe space game releases update https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php/409060-Elite-Dangerous-Beyond-Chapter-One-3-0?p=6446738&viewfull=1#post6446738
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Tijuana Bibliophile posted:I told you not to sign you're posts TB! I miss you being in the thread regularly (though I can’t cast stones since I took a year off myself...) Tijuana Bibliophile posted:So how's that star citizen going eh Star Citizen is good. Daztek can confirm.
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Feb 27, 2018 11:15
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his nibs posted:Dumb wannabe space game releases update If it worth buying yet?
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G0RF posted:TB! I'm humbled  I get my daily dose of the crazies by following Brexit over at D&D. It's a surprisingly similar narrative to Star Citizen, only it's got a firmer release date. Where are we in the Decline and Fall of the space game? We should be well past Elagabalus by now, and getting fairly close to Alaric 
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starkebn posted:If it worth buying yet? Sure, if you can live without glitching through ships and a terrible framerate
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Feb 27, 2018 12:04
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starkebn posted:If it worth buying yet? If you liked the original yes, if you like free roam fight/trade/explore games yes, if you like spaceship flying games definitely yes. If you want EVE in a cockpit or can't cope with other players opting out of PVP you'll hate everything about it.
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G0RF posted:Hey, I’m glad you chimed in Mne nravitsya, because I’ve been meaning to ask someone who had eyes on that little understood chapter. Without too much identifying information on a board that goes public (dropping the paywall) on a regular basis - it was in a very similar state to where Star Citizen is right now. They had a pre-alpha type of engine (that was doing some very cool stuff that was not being widely done at that point in the games industry: mega texture type tech, types of procedural shaders, etc) but overall was more or less an interesting tech demo that lacked any form of design mechanics in it. Microsoft's arrival (and reset of the project) started the game on an actual design path. Prior to the buyout, the team was mostly focused on the endlessly refactoring of Chris's favorite area to drive people crazy: Art It also had lots of stunning previsualization and pre rendered hires videos (done by the very talented internal VFX team) showing off what it was going to become if given unlimited time and money: Which MS wised upped to after so many years of stalling and sizzle videos. Most of that team knew this was never going to happen, so the exodus of staff from DA was very quick and very large around the time MS came into play.
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Ramadu posted:https://twitter.com/Accelerwraith/status/965110044797820928 Man that mouse is loving sick its even made JUST FOR GAMERS As opposed to who? You think I'm sitting at a desk at work going "Wow, this accounting work would go so much faster if I had two internal joysticks fitted to my mouse!"?
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Tijuana Bibliophile posted:I'm humbled There are a lot of old voices I miss — OhDearGodNo, Haskell, GoogleButt (he cracked me up so much), and, well, too many more to cite them all. But you’ve at the top of my most mourned departed list... somehow we lost you and yet MoMA just keeps on keeping on. It’s a drat tragedy is what it is.* But we’ve gained a lot of fantastic additions from a wide variety of backgrounds and the thread remains very worthwhile reading, particularly for those looking for ringside seats at the greatest squandered opportunity in gaming history. You can get the highlight reel compiled by the excellent VirtualCaptain here. quote:I get my daily dose of the crazies by following Brexit over at D&D. It's a surprisingly similar narrative to Star Citizen, only it's got a firmer release date. Allow me to explain through interpretative   effortpost (though don’t be surprised if Derek chimes in soon with something more in the “they’re hosed, the end!” vein.)Mne nravitsya posted:Without too much identifying information on a board that goes public (dropping the paywall) on a regular basis - it was in a very similar state to where Star Citizen is right now. They had a pre-alpha type of engine (that was doing some very cool stuff that was not being widely done at that point in the games industry: mega texture type tech, types of procedural shaders, etc) but overall was more or less an interesting tech demo that lacked any form of design mechanics in it. Microsoft's arrival (and reset of the project) started the game on an actual design path. Prior to the buyout, the team was mostly focused on the endlessly refactoring of Chris's favorite area to drive people crazy: Art Thank you very much for this (and additional) insight into that largely lost chapter, Mne nravitsya. “more or less an interesting tech demo that lacked any form of design mechanics in it” is exactly what has been assumed, particularly given that it took years for Microsoft to actually finish and ship it. How wonderful that the last chapter of his first run in gaming served as so perfect a prelude to the sequel now well underway. * I’m just razzing you, MoMA. I look forward to your non-sequitor reply that ends up being a dig at Derek.
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I'm surprised. Shocked even. But I shouldn't be. Refactoring jackets is not a new obsession it would seem.
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I'm just sitting here laughing my rear end off at Derek being utterly unable to comprehend a guy taking his wife's last name. There must be some sinister reason! Can't possibly be because they discussed it and agreed on it.
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Malachite_Dragon posted:I'm just sitting here laughing my rear end off at Derek being utterly unable to comprehend a guy taking his wife's last name. There must be some sinister reason! Can't possibly be because they discussed it and agreed on it. So same as always, just make sure the track doesn't skip a beat or anything. 
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Some of my favorites that rolled in since yesterday:quote:StarCitizenTracker presents an unvarnished look at the state of the project, and it's one of the only places I can think of that does so. This in and of itself is praiseworthy, but the lengths the researchers seem willing to go to in order to get an accurate picture goes above and beyond. If this isn't your first stop when checking in on Star Citizen, you're wasting time! quote:Fantastic no-nonsense way to see how the Best drat Space Sim Ever is shaping up quote:CIG often stated that all the information is "out there" and we simply have to look for it. In retrospective i think their biggest fear was that someone would actually do it. quote:It doesn't have spider facts or 1,000 photos of a newswoman, but its still the best place for Lesnick quotes. Probably leave the form open for a long time, but mid-Wednesday is going to be the cutoff for the main selection. Endorsement submission link
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The Titanic posted:I read some of the Larry Niven Man-Kzin Wars books and while I agree that the overall theme was implied to be this, they ended up focusing on one side or the other and the personal things the people or aliens did and sometimes it was nice and sometimes it wasn't but I always remembered being slightly intrigued. He sort of did a good job at making a complex human race and a complex alien race with inner turmoil clashing together and taking prisoners and how they all handled these things with their own personalities and political expectations. I hear you, but. The premise Larry Niven created was that the Kzin were pre-space-travel primitives enslaved by a technologically advanced species who later revolted against their masters, appropriated their tech, defeated (exterminated? not sure, it's been a while) them, and proceeded to bring their own reign of terror to any other species that got in the way of their aggressive expansion. Kzin are savage, vicious apex predators stereotyped by Niven as always wanting to "scream and leap" at their foes. No matter how hard you try to make peace, eventually you're going to have to fight the Kzin, and when you do you can defeat them by using their own aggressiveness against them. So yeah, I think it's fair to call it RSF. (Also: I didn't understand this when I was a teen reading everything by Niven, but besides being extremely RSF, that's also extremely "centuries_of_distilled_slaveowners_fears_of_slave_revolt.txt".) I do agree that some M-K Wars material struck out in very non-RSF directions, but that's because most of the M-K Wars stories were written by people other than Niven. Niven's own work didn't have the M-K wars in the foreground very often; the wars were part of the backstory for his "Known Space" universe, not its main focus. The M-K books happened because Niven gave his blessing to other authors to write M-K war stories and sell them in SF magazines, and they proved popular enough to print novel-length collections of nothing but M-K war stories. Hav posted:Joe Haldeman and Whatshisface Drake are the shining lights of the genre, but only Heinlein had the 'Ship's Tail'. David Drake. I am bewildered by you and Beet identifying Haldeman, and in particular Forever War, as RSF, unless I am not understanding what you guys were saying. IMO, Drake doesn't entirely fit the mold either. His best stuff is him trying to kick you in the gut with how loving awful and pointless war is, and how badly it breaks the basic humanity of the people fighting it. A lot of it is him working through his own mental scar tissue from being a soldier in the Vietnam War. There's a particularly grim short story I remember which gained horrifying extra depth once I read an interview with Drake and realized, based on their jobs in the military, that the story's main character is clearly Drake himself. That story is one of the most searing self-criticisms I have ever seen. (Not exactly your standard Marty Stu self insert.)
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Jobbo_Fett posted:Man that mouse is loving sick its even made JUST FOR GAMERS As an accountant you would be able to shoot down the costs more efficiently and have more accuracy with your tax evasion moves. Your loss.
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his nibs posted:Dumb wannabe space game releases update This is how you develop a live game. CIG already make themselves look like thieving lying scumbag amateur hacks and Frontier manage to make them look even worse every time they roll out an update.
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Duckaerobics posted:Continuing book chat. I haven't really been able to get into any modern scifi, because everything seems like it is either porn, or written for teenagers. I usually just end-up reading some Dick or Vonnegut if I'm in a scifi mood. Does anyone have any recommendations for decent contemporary stuff? I don’t know how clean a line you cut between Fantasy and Sci Fi but if you’re into good work that’s on the edge between them, check out N. K. Jemisin.
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I lol every time I see that "Wulf Knight" has a sub-101 command of Latin, and that an hour's perusal of Wheelock's Latin would show him the correct way to actually say "big bad wolf". But that wouldn't be quite as funny. Him and Gremlich must have the same instructor.
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Zzr posted:As an accountant you would be able to shoot down the costs more efficiently and have more accuracy with your tax evasion moves. Your loss.  what a sad pleb you are, I just have my 30-man (no women allowed) crew man the turrets and hack the game code to increase my shields to nigh-invulnerability. 
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quote:That's good enough for me. Will I be disappointed if the game fails or CR proves to have feet of clay and it's all a con? No. I'll be totally pissed off and out for blood. I mean it. CR will need to spend all the money on purchasing an estate he never leaves, or drastic plastic surgery, maybe both. https://www.reddit.com/r/starcitizen/comments/80e0qe/how_did_you_feel_about_telling_people_to_wait_for/duvlqii/
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Jobbo_Fett posted:Also Beer and co were giving feedback on ships, loadouts, and gameplay issues and it rubbed some people at CIG the wrong way, and it was obvious that the gameplay CIG wanted was swerving towards wasnt what some people wanted so they got out. Matt Sherman rage-quitting because he couldn't keep his story straight on how piracy was supposed to work remains one of my fondest memories. G0RF posted:I laughed out loud when I heard Twerk a few weeks back complaining that the larger ships needed to be designed with FPS concerns in mind because they suck as battle maps. That was exactly the kind of stuff Beer was warning about ages ago to no apparent avail. I hereby declare that I called it.
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The Titanic posted:I guess this makes his balls big or something? Is this the latest Star Citizen cock measurement requirement? How much you've donated and don't care about because you're not a poor pussy bitch who doesn't understand finances? He still buys in enough that getting a refund is unthinkable. Giving up your place in heaven. The idea that refunding is a cowardly abandonment of your "investment" is a fairly recent tenet of the cult, to help them process the idea that someone might want to leave.
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Beer4TheBeerGod posted:Matt Sherman rage-quitting because he couldn't keep his story straight on how piracy was supposed to work remains one of my fondest memories. Let's be honest here. CIG is still raging and not any straighter than Matt was, bouncing between ship permanence issues and logging out vs saved positions and so on.
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I got an ad on YouTube today for some Hulu show and it had giant flashy letters screaming “EXTINCTION LEVEL EVENT” so Derek Smart Was Right
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Virtual Captain posted:Some of my favorites that rolled in since yesterday: Is it wrong to put in multiple endorsements?
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Jobbo_Fett posted:Is it wrong to put in multiple endorsements? quote:[This endorsement has unfortunately been cut]  quote:StarCitizenTracker is an invaluable tool for our developers. It displays all the promises I've made over the years and allows them to exactly see what's left to develop! 
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Virtual Captain posted:The form won't stop you. I see someone has been busy. Ok those two are great
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SomethingJones posted:Network bind culling forum post appearing the day after Derek tweeting about it  Good times, man - good times. ----------------
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So, how to we stop RSI from scamming us? Stop paying them for the pleasure would probably be a good start.
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iospace posted:Refresh my memory as to who B'Tak is again? The biggest wimp this galaxy has ever had the displeasure of witnessing.
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Jobbo_Fett posted:The biggest wimp this galaxy has ever had the displeasure of witnessing. B'Tak is the Mike Pence of gaming.
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