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Morzhovyye
Mar 2, 2013

this was a post made on this website in the year of our lord two thousand eighteen

quote:

It finally struck me why the "anti-imperialists" always end up siding with dictators and oligarchs. It's because the US (for all its tremendous flaws) is perhaps as good as a democratic superpower could possibly be. They actually try to give a poo poo about human rights and democracy. They actually try to create and uphold international, democratic institutions. Sure, often the US fucks this up, or it is drowned in cynical realpolitik or jingoistic "we can kill anyone we want with no repercussions!" hyper-nationalism. Sure, my fantasy ideal would probably be something like Obama's USA and Gorbachev's reformed USSR as superpowers, balanced by strong, unified EU, AU and some asian equivalent. But right now the US is probably the best we can hope for.

What do the "anti-imperialist" powers even bring to the table with regards to international order? "No-one should interfere with anyone else (so that I can be left alone to rob my country blind)". Russia, China, Venezuela, North Korea - none of them are interested in a functioning international community. None of them are interested in creating a better world. None of them give a poo poo about anyone outside their ruling class.

So if your ideals of justice and equality (rightly) bring you at odds with the US, you have to be really careful about the allies you make along the way, or you end up in the camp of nihilistic assholes who only give a poo poo about themselves.

welp

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Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

Listing all the reasons everything you believe is bullshit in the opening paragraph is a bold posting strategy.

Sheng-Ji Yang
Mar 5, 2014


Odobenidae posted:

this was a post made on this website in the year of our lord two thousand eighteen


welp

"We have about 50% of the world's wealth but only 6.3% of its population.... Our real task in the coming period is to devise a pattern of relationships which will permit us to maintain this position of disparity without positive detriment to our national security. To do so, we will have to dispense with all sentimentality and daydreaming, and our attention will have to be concentrated everywhere on our immediate national objectives. We need not deceive ourselves that we can afford today the luxury of altruism and world benefaction.... We should cease to talk about vague and unreal objectives such as human rights, the raising of the living standards, and democratization. The day is not far off when we are going to have to deal in straight power concepts. The less we are then hampered by idealistic slogans, the better."

George Kennan, State Department memo, 1948

Wheeee
Mar 11, 2001

When a tree grows, it is soft and pliable. But when it's dry and hard, it dies.

Hardness and strength are death's companions. Flexibility and softness are the embodiment of life.

That which has become hard shall not triumph.

Yeah well just look how happy all the Iraqis are with their new freedom and democracy

GalacticAcid
Apr 8, 2013

NEW YORK VALUES
West Virginia Teachers Are Showing How Unions Can Win Power Even If They Lose Janus

quote:

School districts could not remain open because school employees had shown they would not come to work. Although officers of the American Federation of Teachers –West Virginia (AFT-WV) and the West Virginia Education Association (WVEA), the state affiliates of the two major teachers unions, are quoted in the press and are widely seen as the movement’s leaders, they are not the force behind the job actions.

***

Understanding this movement’s success requires seeing that the WVEA and AFT-WV, which ostensibly spoke for teachers and other school workers, failed to tap into or build this labor consciousness. Instead of mobilizing actions that addressed anger at poor wages, the unions’ strategy was to court state politicians with donations and votes. As I learned in conversations over the past several months, the activists who built the grassroots movement, many of them socialists, believed that traditional labor tactics, ranging from rallies to walkouts, were essential and that their colleagues throughout the state would respond.

What orgs are on the ground for the WV strike?

Dreddout
Oct 1, 2015

You must stay drunk on writing so reality cannot destroy you.

Odobenidae posted:

this was a post made on this website in the year of our lord two thousand eighteen


welp

"Sure the US fucks up" is up there with "We tortured some folks" in regards to nonchalance over attrocity

Impermanent
Apr 1, 2010
striking illegally and organizing open shops is super hard but honestly it will be worth it to see northerners who constantly tsk tsk the south over their lack of union density get rolled

GalacticAcid
Apr 8, 2013

NEW YORK VALUES

Impermanent posted:

northerners who constantly tsk tsk the south over their lack of union density

definitely something that happens all the time

Impermanent
Apr 1, 2010

GalacticAcid posted:

definitely something that happens all the time

you don't know enough really lovely union organizers hth

BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


Lipstick Apathy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zAc-U-m_xFU

freckle
Apr 6, 2016

by Nyc_Tattoo

Business Gorillas
Mar 11, 2009

:harambe:



Impermanent posted:

striking illegally and organizing open shops is super hard but honestly it will be worth it to see northerners who constantly tsk tsk the south over their lack of union density get rolled

Anyone who tsk tsks west loving virginia wrt organized labor is a God drat idiot

Matt Lindland
Feb 10, 2018

SHUT THE FUCK UP KEVEN

ALSO GJ BUYING A NEW ACCOUNT LIKE A GODDAMN COWARD
YOU USELESS WHITE NOISE POSTER

YOU WILL NOT ESCAPE THE BOLF RAMSHIELD YOU SO RICHLY DESERVE


now with professional animation
A page of unironic zizek support followed by an unironic hth... jesus christ.

R. Guyovich
Dec 25, 1991

Odobenidae posted:

this was a post made on this website in the year of our lord two thousand eighteen


welp

link the post coward

THS
Sep 15, 2017

i have a soft spot for zizek because while he can be terrible, he also had a pretty good spiel in my formative years, and a colorful explanation of what liberal ideology was. identifying what that was inside of myself helped me kill it

rudatron
May 31, 2011

by Fluffdaddy
he's not terrible! where is all this stuff coming from

Algund Eenboom
May 4, 2014

from reading the things he has written, and thinking about them

platzapS
Aug 4, 2007

Yandat posted:

i have a soft spot for zizek because while he can be terrible, he also had a pretty good spiel in my formative years, and a colorful explanation of what liberal ideology was. identifying what that was inside of myself helped me kill it
This sounds useful. Can you link the specific piece?

THS
Sep 15, 2017

platzapS posted:

This sounds useful. Can you link the specific piece?

it would be difficult to give you a link to a piece where zizek talks about the nature of ideology because that's most everything he writes

Mean Baby
May 28, 2005

platzapS posted:

This sounds useful. Can you link the specific piece?

Pervert’s guide to ideology is a decent film; especially if you like movies.

Autism Sneaks
Nov 21, 2016
it's awesome but pretty despairing that people would rather believe that the pyramids were built by, inexplicably, extraterrestrial intelligent life, rather than the poo poo ton of slaves exploited by a hereditary upper class literally entombed in said monuments

Plutonis
Mar 25, 2011

They were build by corvee labor of Egyptian freemen

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

They were built by ancient Ho-Teps.

WhiskeyJuvenile
Feb 15, 2002

by Nyc_Tattoo
zizek spelled backwards is keziz

rudatron
May 31, 2011

by Fluffdaddy

Algund Eenboom posted:

from reading the things he has written, and thinking about them
Ack! No! Why does no one appreciate nuance or subtlety anymore.

rudatron
May 31, 2011

by Fluffdaddy
Actually the pyramids were built by a single great engineer, by consuming him to rush it in one turn

paul_soccer10
Mar 28, 2016

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
chomsky has the right take on zizek which is "i dont understand what he's saying"

Plutonis
Mar 25, 2011

rudatron posted:

Actually the pyramids were built by a single great engineer, by consuming him to rush it in one turn

MonsieurChoc
Oct 12, 2013

Every species can smell its own extinction.

rudatron posted:

Actually the pyramids were built by a single great engineer, by consuming him to rush it in one turn

Except when France does it on the same turn as you and you've wasted your great engineer. :argh:

GalacticAcid
Apr 8, 2013

NEW YORK VALUES
*to the tune of Jessie’s Girl by Rick Springfield* 🎵Workers World🎵

Yossarian-22
Oct 26, 2014

paul_soccer10 posted:

chomsky has the right take on zizek which is "i dont understand what he's saying"

MikeCrotch
Nov 5, 2011

I AM UNJUSTIFIABLY PROUD OF MY SPAGHETTI BOLOGNESE RECIPE

YES, IT IS AN INCREDIBLY SIMPLE DISH

NO, IT IS NOT NORMAL TO USE A PEPPERAMI INSTEAD OF MINCED MEAT

YES, THERE IS TOO MUCH SALT IN MY RECIPE

NO, I WON'T STOP SHARING IT

more like BOLLOCKnese

paul_soccer10 posted:

chomsky has the right take on zizek which is "i dont understand what he's saying"

Isn't it more "I read his stuff and he never actually makes a coherent argument about anything"

GalacticAcid
Apr 8, 2013

NEW YORK VALUES
https://twitter.com/shane_bauer/status/968609163575115777

lol

WhiskeyJuvenile
Feb 15, 2002

by Nyc_Tattoo
https://twitter.com/cutasterfee/status/968881523565973505?s=21

WhiskeyJuvenile
Feb 15, 2002

by Nyc_Tattoo

the tankie left is cool as heck

Karl Barks
Jan 21, 1981


what a new an exhilarating opinion from the geohell guy

fun fact, the communist party in the US fully backed the new deal and was encouraged to do so by the soviets

Karl Barks fucked around with this message at 22:23 on Feb 28, 2018

Pablo Nergigante
Apr 16, 2002

Karl Barks posted:

what a new an exhilarating opinion from the geohell guy

fun fact, the communist party in the US fully backed the new deal and was encouraged to do so by the soviets

drat, Russian bots have been at it longer than we all thought

BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


Lipstick Apathy

Karl Barks posted:

fun fact, the communist party in the US fully backed the new deal and was encouraged to do so by the soviets
huh

well i'll be damned

AnEdgelord
Dec 12, 2016
I keep coming across vegans trolling on leftbook and it makes my head hurt.

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Bryter
Nov 6, 2011

but since we are small we may-
uh, we may be the losers

R. Guyovich posted:

link the post coward

It's in the PYF tankie thread.

I assumed it would be a good place to find the greatest hits of the extended Greaves crew, and there's a bit of that tbf, but a lot of the time it's freaks who probably have signed copies of Sam Power's latest laughing at someone for tweeting nuclear holocaust on the Korean peninsula would be bad

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