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Tae posted:FF15 continues to be silly as poo poo and loving it Man, Prompto got some manboobs.
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Feb 28, 2018 19:13
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Caidin posted:I was just thinking about picking up FFIX from steam but this CT stuff has me slightly leary all of a sudden, can anyone comment on the quality of that port? The menus/dialogue boxes look awful just like in all the other ports (I guess SE can't afford a graphic designer) and the framerate is locked at 30/20/15 which may or may not be headache-inducing for you.
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Feb 28, 2018 19:16
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Your Computer posted:The menus/dialogue boxes look awful just like in all the other ports (I guess SE can't afford a graphic designer) and the framerate is locked at 30/20/15 which may or may not be headache-inducing for you. Okay maybe sleeping on that decision for a bit then, thanks.
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Feb 28, 2018 19:20
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Caidin posted:Okay maybe sleeping on that decision for a bit then, thanks. It's worth mentioning that they didn't make it worse at least, they just... didn't improve it. It's a very 1-to-1 port which for some people are enough, but I really wish they'd taken the extra time and effort to uncouple the framerate. Playing a game on 15 fps on a CRT TV across the room is one thing, having it right in front of your face on a PC monitor is not pleasant  Depending on how sensitive you are to flickering it might be fine though.
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Feb 28, 2018 19:28
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I played it and didn’t register any of that as a problem, i thought it was a perfectly good version of the game.
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Feb 28, 2018 19:29
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Your Computer posted:It's worth mentioning that they didn't make it worse at least, they just... didn't improve it. It's a very 1-to-1 port which for some people are enough, but I really wish they'd taken the extra time and effort to uncouple the framerate. I'm drat impressed they managed to pull it off as well as they did tbqh. They lost almost all of the original assets (the original high def fmvs being a notable exception)
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Feb 28, 2018 19:32
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Ventana posted:This thread gets really weird about 13's battle transition screens and I don't get why. Even my other casual RPG nerd friends don't give a poo poo about battle transitions, and there's still other jRPGs coming out these days that still have battle transitions. It really doesn't matter at all if you can wait 4 seconds. But you can have battle transitions that don't take 4 seconds https://i.imgur.com/9Tj2ssI.gifv
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Feb 28, 2018 19:35
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Caidin posted:I was just thinking about picking up FFIX from steam but this CT stuff has me slightly leary all of a sudden, can anyone comment on the quality of that port? FF9 is probably the best PC port of all the FFs on steam, no lovely filters and all the models and cutscenes are redone for higher resolution, though they lost the backgrounds so those are still grainy poo poo. They added options to turn encounters on and off along with the turbo FF12 got and a few other comedy options like always hit for max damage or instant trance. As someone who played through the original as a kid and then showed the port to a friend, I definitely liked the port's quality.
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Feb 28, 2018 20:18
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Caidin posted:I was just thinking about picking up FFIX from steam but this CT stuff has me slightly leary all of a sudden, can anyone comment on the quality of that port? IX is fine.
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Feb 28, 2018 21:05
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I mean its still FFIX, but like, if that doesn't bother you its great.
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Feb 28, 2018 22:05
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Tae posted:FF15 continues to be silly as poo poo and loving it
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Feb 28, 2018 22:08
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Ventana posted:This thread gets really weird about 13's battle transition screens and I don't get why. Even my other casual RPG nerd friends don't give a poo poo about battle transitions, and there's still other jRPGs coming out these days that still have battle transitions. It really doesn't matter at all if you can wait 4 seconds. it's a really weird contrivance that hurts immersion i can understand it in an age where the hardware wasn't capable of doing something seamless, but it hasn't been a necessity for a very long time. so it's a deliberate stylistic choice, and kind of a weird one.
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Feb 28, 2018 22:14
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The FF9 pc port is the best way to play the game and the menu appearance will bug you for exactly 20 seconds and then you'll be use to it.
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Feb 28, 2018 22:24
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DACK FAYDEN posted:They just keep doing it. The absolute madmen. They got tired of the 10 years to release jokes so they're going in the other direction out of spite.
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Feb 28, 2018 22:28
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The worst problem with FF9 is the grainy washed out backgrounds because they lost the original renders so they only had what was on the PS1 discs to work with. Other than that it's fine and actually plays better thanks to speed up
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Feb 28, 2018 22:33
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also what's so bad about the FF13 port? seemed fine to me
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Feb 28, 2018 22:34
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It's fine now, it was a mess at release
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Feb 28, 2018 22:36
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Sapozhnik posted:it's a really weird contrivance that hurts immersion Immersion is not the only possible goal or even always desirable. Having a separate game mode for combat and not-combat has always been technically possible, even in RPGs that were far more detailed than Final Fantasy that ran on worse hardware. It's always been a deliberate choice.
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Feb 28, 2018 22:40
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SE's first attempt as no battle transition resulted in FF12 so I'm glad they gave up on it for a while after that
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Feb 28, 2018 22:42
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A Sometimes Food posted:I mean I loved it then and still do so prettier SoM is fine, um... Bongo Bill posted:Immersion is not the only possible goal or even always desirable. Having a separate game mode for combat and not-combat has always been technically possible, even in RPGs that were far more detailed than Final Fantasy that ran on worse hardware. It's always been a deliberate choice. having a separate abstract 'world' for combat helps prevents stuff like goofy it felt to summon ramuh in the ffxv demo and watch this towering behemoth who isn't an abstract concept and actually exists in the context of the overworld nuke a goblin for 9999 damage.
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Feb 28, 2018 22:51
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I found FFXII incredibly immersive precisely because it lacked those transitions. I had a ball just running around Ivalice and looking atteh wildlife. I don't mind battle transitions or anything but FFXII did its own thing quite well.
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Feb 28, 2018 22:55
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FFXII was wildly immersive in that getting anywhere was massively annoying, the world design sucked and no one in the world seemed to be able to maintain roads even through the only entrance and exit through a region, there was gently caress all to do and you spent most of your life wasting your time doing things you were told were important but actually amounted to absolutely nothing.
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Feb 28, 2018 23:36
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did they do a battle transition in FFXIII because maybe crystal tools is a highly unoptimized pile of poo poo?
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Feb 28, 2018 23:37
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"Wow this fantasy world is so immersive. There's like 5 city blocks of town in this state capital and there's endless wilderness right outside its gates! Look there's even a little nomad village just an hours jog away!"
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Feb 28, 2018 23:39
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It really felt like I was there watching Lightning punch Snow in the face.
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Feb 28, 2018 23:40
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ZenMasterBullshit posted:"Wow this fantasy world is so immersive. There's like 5 city blocks of town in this state capital and there's endless wilderness right outside its gates! Look there's even a little nomad village just an hours jog away!" Literally every final fantasy game?
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Feb 28, 2018 23:41
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MikeJF posted:Literally every final fantasy game? Yeah that's kind of my point. These games and narratives don't give a poo poo about being 'immersive' and to act like any one them are good at it is a joke. It's trying to find something to hold on to when a game has basically nothing going on. It's the "Well you've got nice hair" of RPG compliments. Which is fine because they're all trying to be high fantasy narratives and not trying to build a sane world. Hell the Best FF is a Shakespearean theater prediction of animal people.
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Feb 28, 2018 23:45
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Caidin posted:I was just thinking about picking up FFIX from steam but this CT stuff has me slightly leary all of a sudden, can anyone comment on the quality of that port? FF9 is actually quite good port. It has its moments of engine instability, but it autosaves very generously.
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ZenMasterBullshit posted:Yeah that's kind of my point. These games and narratives don't give a poo poo about being 'immersive' and to act like any one them are good at it is a joke. It's trying to find something to hold on to when a game has basically nothing going on. It's the "Well you've got nice hair" of RPG compliments. LOL you are really trying way too hard dude.
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Feb 28, 2018 23:53
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Terper posted:But you can have battle transitions that don't take 4 seconds Well, back for what they were doing on PS3 in 2009, idk, PS3 always loaded poo poo extremely slowly. Imo yes I prefer a game that looks lovely but runs faster, but we all know that's not really what the general public wants. Sapozhnik posted:it's a really weird contrivance that hurts immersion I mean okay yes, but FF13 came out in 2009, and you were critiquing a game from 2009. Also, if you're looking for immersion, then FF13 is probably the worst FF for you. I like the game, but immersion is not something they really even try to go for.
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For one, sazh’s hair should be lousy with bird poo poo and piss, but we never see it
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ZenMasterBullshit posted:Yeah that's kind of my point. These games and narratives don't give a poo poo about being 'immersive' and to act like any one them are good at it is a joke. It's trying to find something to hold on to when a game has basically nothing going on. It's the "Well you've got nice hair" of RPG compliments. I'm glad you've realized that not liking a game means you have to come up with every argument, no matter how dumb, that every single aspect of it is the worst thing ever.
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Caidin posted:I was just thinking about picking up FFIX from steam but this CT stuff has me slightly leary all of a sudden, can anyone comment on the quality of that port? FFIX might be the most competent port of any game Square Enix has put out on Steam. The Steam version is without a doubt the best version of the game
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Mar 1, 2018 00:15
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FF12 isn't the worst game ever but it's definiely not worth 2 Copies of Lightning Returns.
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Ainsley McTree posted:For one, sazh’s hair should be lousy with bird poo poo and piss, but we never see it Birds don't piss
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Mar 1, 2018 00:33
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Barudak posted:I mean its still FFIX, but like, if that doesn't bother you its great. Is there a single ff that most people itt like
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Mar 1, 2018 00:47
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I never really hear anything bad about tactics but I've only ever played the first few hours
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Mar 1, 2018 00:48
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Lunchmeat Larry posted:Is there a single ff that most people itt like I'd say it's probably still FF9
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