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Ignite Memories posted:And that's why you don't let fluff trump design would you say, perhaps, that design is law
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Mar 1, 2018 18:17
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Deathwing apparently has been waiting on a "definitive edition" free upgrade type thing that comes with a massive truckload of fixes and stuff people have wanted forever, but who knows when that'll actually come.
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Mar 1, 2018 18:28
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Just have Fatshark make a 40k L4D game. Also it’s kind of amusing that fantasy is getting way better games than 40k has gotten in recent memory.
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Mar 1, 2018 18:31
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One day someone's gonna take Eugen's Wargame engine and make a Chapter-scale 40k game with it, sell dlc factions for three bucks a pop, and make all of the money in the world. Just... gotta wait for GW to cycle through every bad idea in the world first. Like the Eisenhorn phone game.
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Vermintide is the best game that has ever been made with the warhammer intellectual property - they should just steer 100% of everything toward vermintide and not try to emulate their awkward tabletop games like Warhammer edit: in 30 years I want every warhammer 40k model box to have a bigass BY THE MAKERS OF VERMINTIDE!! logo splashed across it Ignite Memories fucked around with this message at 18:48 on Mar 1, 2018 |
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Mar 1, 2018 18:44
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As much as I enjoy hearing Saltzpyre snarling "RAT SCUM!", he sure does say it a lot when I'm fighting nothing but Chaos.
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Yardbomb posted:Kerillian much like 1, has been the problem character for me every time now as well, guy runs off and gets grabbed by this or that HALP, HALP, HALP like dude why the hell are you a mile away from all of us. I had a Kerillian player get mad at the rest of the team because we would wait for people to grab the tome before moving on while they would sprint ahead. "Quit wasting time you don't need 3 people to grab the tome" Jesus what is the rush dude
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Bodacious posted:As much as I enjoy hearing Saltzpyre snarling "RAT SCUM!", he sure does say it a lot when I'm fighting nothing but Chaos. chaos dudes trigger his ptsd flashbacks
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vermintide is great because it focuses on actually fun and visceral gameplay instead of trying to 100% emulate a tabletop setting down to every individual rule
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Earl Chestnuts posted:I had a Kerillian player get mad at the rest of the team because we would wait for people to grab the tome before moving on while they would sprint ahead. 3 Easy Steps to playing Elf: 1. Run ahead alone 2. Die 3. Yell at team
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Mar 1, 2018 18:59
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Johnny Joestar posted:vermintide is great because it focuses on actually fun and visceral gameplay instead of trying to 100% emulate a tabletop setting down to every individual rule but it’s not faithful to ~the source material~ Also executioner sword for Kruber is fun for clowning on big chaos dudes who think they’re hot poo poo.
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Johnny Joestar posted:vermintide is great because it focuses on actually fun and visceral gameplay instead of trying to 100% emulate a tabletop setting down to every individual rule Yeah this is why this game is fun and Mordheim is not
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Kerillian said something about the evil moon while we were running through a field in Against The Grain. The moon doesn't appear to be in the sky in Vermintide 2. What gives?
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I've heard about some stupid broken combo for almost every character except Saltz. Victor seems pretty balanced to me but doesn't really have any crazy over-the-top stuff near as I can see? Getting free crits with a repeater and dunking on Roger seems to be his niche right now?
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DeathSandwich posted:Did they ever make that game non-lovely or did the developers give up on it? The devs have been quiet for some time now. They managed to get the game into a decent shape but there are basically no people playing. I managed to get in a game or two every other day. It's fun but a bit janky. Everyone is waiting for the EE version to come out SOONTM
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So, what's the score on Kruber's warhammer? I got a green one at level 4 that has +4 stam but it feels like it's way too slow and awkward to be of much use
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Mendrian posted:I've heard about some stupid broken combo for almost every character except Saltz. I've played with a few Salties that managed to pretty much top every single chart. I'm not sure what they were doing but I just assume they were just screaming HOLY poo poo MAN the entire time... 
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Mendrian posted:I've heard about some stupid broken combo for almost every character except Saltz. Crits feed in to most of the bonkers gear synergies so "free crits" is really really good.
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Rayjenkins posted:Just have Fatshark make a 40k L4D game. Because GW is stupid and keeps making lovely mobile games or letting no-name studios just pump out poo poo. Or whatever the gently caress was going through the minds of the folks that made DOW3. They've got such a good IP but only rarely do anything good with it. Someone basically just needs to make a 40k conversion to XCOM2 and/or a Mass Effect styled RPG in either 40k or WH Fantasy so I can be happy. >:/
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Skypie posted:So, what's the score on Kruber's warhammer? I got a green one at level 4 that has +4 stam but it feels like it's way too slow and awkward to be of much use you have to fade in and out while timing charged attacks. lunge forward to knock everyone over like tenpins, then backpeddle to recover from the strike and charge another hit.
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Rayjenkins posted:Just have Fatshark make a 40k L4D game. It's funny to me that the two best games using the Warhammer IP are both based off of the one that GW sort of unceremoniously abandoned. There's people being introduced to the property through Vermintide and Total War that are going to find out that this version of fantasy is officially defunct and GW went all-in on the Sigmarines. But hey, at least we've gotten good games out of the deal. 
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Willie Tomg posted:Crits feed in to most of the bonkers gear synergies so "free crits" is really really good. :nods sagely: :mashes reroll on every piece of gear:
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cliffdiver posted:3 Easy Steps to playing Elf: 3 Easy Steps to playing Dwarf: 1. Wade the gently caress in to protect your friends 2. Die 3. Wait 10m for them to beat half of Grain Level, fight a rat ogre and revive you 4. Be all like "I scouted ahead, what took you so long"
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I love walking around as Saltzpyre and just attacking over and over again to hear him yell and scream die at nothing. "Eeyyyyeeargh!' "DIE" "DIE BASTARD" "Rrratt SCUMMM"
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Skypie posted:So, what's the score on Kruber's warhammer? I got a green one at level 4 that has +4 stam but it feels like it's way too slow and awkward to be of much use It's honestly one of his best weapons (along with the executioner sword), but it also has one of the stiffest learning curves of a weapon in the game. There's a cadence and rhythm involved with it that takes a while to get use to. You need to be using your dodges to set up space for your next charge attack (and line it up in a way that knocks around the largest group of people) in a way that you don't really need to do with other weapons, otherwise you'll get got by flankers and rats who were just out of range. Be mindful of when you do and don't have time for charged attacks and throw up a block if you can't make it happen. Sometimes it's better to use the uncharged downward swings to paste smaller groups of enemies while you duck and block around. If you are surrounded on all sides you dun hosed up in general, hit F to Knock everyone back / stealth / reposition with a charge and find your friends, dummy. In hordes you should get into a pattern of Charged attack -> backdodge -> CA -> backdodge. The real magic of the warhammer is when stormvermin, marauder champions, and chaos warriors show up because the warhammer will stunlock the former two to death and completely demolish the latter, especially when coupled with a strength potion.
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DeathSandwich posted:It's honestly one of his best weapons (along with the executioner sword), but it also has one of the stiffest learning curves of a weapon in the game. There's a cadence and rhythm involved with it that takes a while to get use to. You need to be using your dodges to set up space for your next charge attack (and line it up in a way that knocks around the largest group of people) in a way that you don't really need to do with other weapons, otherwise you'll get got by flankers and rats who were just out of range. Be mindful of when you do and don't have time for charged attacks and throw up a block if you can't make it happen. Sometimes it's better to use the uncharged downward swings to paste smaller groups of enemies while you duck and block around. If you are surrounded on all sides you dun hosed up in general, hit F to Knock everyone back / stealth / reposition with a charge and find your friends, dummy. To add, this is exactly how the dwarf warhammer works, as well. Speaking of dwarf, does the iron breaker get any unique melee weapons? I do have the cannon for him, just haven’t unlocked that class yet. Also got some slayer axes which I can’t use.
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DeathSandwich posted:It's honestly one of his best weapons (along with the executioner sword), but it also has one of the stiffest learning curves of a weapon in the game. There's a cadence and rhythm involved with it that takes a while to get use to. You need to be using your dodges to set up space for your next charge attack (and line it up in a way that knocks around the largest group of people) in a way that you don't really need to do with other weapons, otherwise you'll get got by flankers and rats who were just out of range. Be mindful of when you do and don't have time for charged attacks and throw up a block if you can't make it happen. Sometimes it's better to use the uncharged downward swings to paste smaller groups of enemies while you duck and block around. If you are surrounded on all sides you dun hosed up in general, hit F to Knock everyone back / stealth / reposition with a charge and find your friends, dummy. Cool, thanks. I did notice that it absolutely fuckin wrecks the Stormvermin and marauders since I could just beat them to death. I'll start working on weaving in and out with it, and I've started just blocking/dodging if I feel like it's dicey. Helps that, like I said, it's got +4 stam on it so I have 5 shields with it when I'm blocking
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Mendrian posted:I've heard about some stupid broken combo for almost every character except Saltz.
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Night Blade posted:I love walking around as Saltzpyre and just attacking over and over again to hear him yell and scream die at nothing. Same but for Kruber "DIE WILL YA"
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Rayjenkins posted:To add, this is exactly how the dwarf warhammer works, as well. Speaking of dwarf, does the iron breaker get any unique melee weapons? I do have the cannon for him, just haven’t unlocked that class yet. Also got some slayer axes which I can’t use. Drakegun and drakefire pistols are locked to ironbreaker and the slayer axes are locked to slayer. There aren't any unique ironbreaker melee weapons though. Pretty much all of the classic WHFB dwarf melee weapons are accounted for now and the only ranged infantry weapon he doesn't have access to are throwing axes (which I would love to see). They could give him a new melee weapon in the form of some sort of "Runeforged _____" and give it a different attack set or another flavor of flame spewing gun. The comedy option would be if they play up on some of those lines that the innkeeper and Olesia mention about your characters being in Skaven captivity between the first and second game. I would laugh if the characters started getting repurposed skaven weapons in the DLC and suddenly Baradin gets a ratling gun and Saltzpyre gets the gutter runner wrist blades.
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cliffdiver posted:3 Easy Steps to playing Elf: Knife ear pieces of poo poo
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high six posted:Because GW is stupid and keeps making lovely mobile games or letting no-name studios just pump out poo poo. Or whatever the gently caress was going through the minds of the folks that made DOW3. They've got such a good IP but only rarely do anything good with it. This might be a interesting video for you to watch about the warhammer game licensing and how it seems to be working pretty well for them. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BtY3Lto_lR4
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DeathSandwich posted:Drakegun and drakefire pistols are locked to ironbreaker and the slayer axes are locked to slayer. There aren't any unique ironbreaker melee weapons though. Pretty much all of the classic WHFB dwarf melee weapons are accounted for now and the only ranged infantry weapon he doesn't have access to are throwing axes (which I would love to see). They could give him a new melee weapon in the form of some sort of "Runeforged _____" and give it a different attack set or another flavor of flame spewing gun. Holy poo poo put limited use ratling guns and warpthrowers on the maps or give those specials a rare chance to drop them. Million dollar idea Fatshark pay me.
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Ravenfood posted:It was the off-handed pistol perma-critting for steady SV/special shutdown on command, but that got nerfed. Now its probably stacking guaranteed crits on every repeater barrage for individual heroics. I'm going to have to give his WHC another try and just go all-in on being team support. His +10% dodge range talent seems like a massive waste of space even compared to other level 5 talents. And I like to dodge. A lot. I guess it'll matter a small percentage of the time but when your character already scoots like a couple meters at most I'm not sure it matters?
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DeathSandwich posted:Drakegun and drakefire pistols are locked to ironbreaker and the slayer axes are locked to slayer. There aren't any unique ironbreaker melee weapons though. Pretty much all of the classic WHFB dwarf melee weapons are accounted for now and the only ranged infantry weapon he doesn't have access to are throwing axes (which I would love to see). They could give him a new melee weapon in the form of some sort of "Runeforged _____" and give it a different attack set or another flavor of flame spewing gun. I know they originally wanted to add more characters as DLC for the first game, and I hope they actually do it this time around, as much work as that would be.
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Wow. The starting greatsword for Kruber only hits a single Marauder before it gets stuck on its light attack. Not that the Light Attack was ever what the zweihanders were for, but that's some impressive uselessness for it. Heavy cleave all day every day.
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How intense is friendly fire in this new one? In VT1 it was like 2 points of damage out of a (Nightmare mode) health bar of 150 so it barely mattered.
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Night10194 posted:Wow. The starting greatsword for Kruber only hits a single Marauder before it gets stuck on its light attack. Not that the Light Attack was ever what the zweihanders were for, but that's some impressive uselessness for it. Cleaving power is tied to multiple factors in this game. Unit mass (marauders are heavier and stop blades better than clanrats and way more than slaverats), the enemy's status (staggered/stunned enemies cleave easier than non-staggered), and the player's character power all tie into how well you can cleave through enemies. Get off your stupid newbie gear and you'll fare a spot better on cleaving power.
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