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Gonz posted:Disney just moved Infinity War back a week to April 27th. Teek posted:Quoting this because my fiancee and I get into arguments about the usage of back/forward/up in regards to the "directions" events move on the calendar when their scheduling changes.
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Well, technically, it's back a week in the space/time continuum. But forward a week in Hollywood speak.
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Mar 1, 2018 22:15
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'Avengers: Infinity War' Release Date Moves Up One Week to Aprilquote:Avengers: Infinity War will now unfurl on April 27, a week before its earlier launch date of May 4. In other words, the summer box office will kick off earlier than expected (the first weekend in May is historically considered the official start of the summer season).
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Mar 1, 2018 22:33
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This makes me feel old because X-Men 2: X-Men United came out May 2nd and at the time there were similar articles about how THAT was really early and since that flick made insane money for its opening weekend at the time* it made May the new start of the summer season. *It was IIRC the first big budget Hollywood flick to open worldwide simultaneously which they counted towards that.
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Mar 1, 2018 22:45
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Neo Rasa posted:This makes me feel old because X-Men 2: X-Men United came out May 2nd and at the time there were similar articles about how THAT was really early and since that flick made insane money for its opening weekend at the time* it made May the new start of the summer season. I don't think it had a simultaneous worldwide release, but IIRC, The Mummy in 1999 was the first big summer blockbuster to be released the first weekend in May. Since then, there's been one every year... guess not this year, though.
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Mar 1, 2018 22:53
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Teek posted:Quoting this because my fiancee and I get into arguments about the usage of back/forward/up in regards to the "directions" events move on the calendar when their scheduling changes. Wait, WTF? May 4th falls on a Friday this year and they are releasing a Star Wars movie in May and it's not on May 4th? That just seems like no-brainer marketing gold.
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Mar 1, 2018 22:58
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Guy A. Person posted:Wait, WTF? They've released 6 other Star Wars films in May and none of them have been on May 4th. May 25th (Solo's release date) was also when ANH and RotJ were released.
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Mar 1, 2018 23:00
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Barry Convex posted:I don't think it had a simultaneous worldwide release, but IIRC, The Mummy in 1999 was the first big summer blockbuster to be released the first weekend in May. Since then, there's been one every year... guess not this year, though. Double checking it seems the unique thing was that it debuted in 93 countries at once, making it the largest worldwide debut with massive international marketing in many countries at once to that scale rather than it being the first.
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Mar 1, 2018 23:02
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Guy A. Person posted:Wait, WTF? The smart move would be to shift Solo to April 27th, then hope the whole “May the 4th” thing boosts their second week earnings and helps keep the momentum going.
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Mar 1, 2018 23:04
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Megaman's Jockstrap posted:There's a loving goat man smoking weed in a silk tent, my dude. that's not in the comic btw Satire? More like satyr-ire am I rite
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Mar 1, 2018 23:40
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Phylodox posted:I didn’t care for Batman v Superman at all and even I would have rather Snyder finished Justice League. I wouldn’t have watched it, but the people who are into his movies would have, and some people enjoying a movie is better than no people enjoying a movie. Agreed. We'd also get the benefit of them not constantly crying online about it.
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Mar 2, 2018 00:00
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I would also like to see the version of Iron Man 2 with the original storyline intact and half the movie is not an Avengers prologue.
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Mar 2, 2018 00:44
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The MSJ posted:I would also like to see the version of Iron Man 2 with the original storyline intact and half the movie is not an Avengers prologue. When I rewatched it recently there was a lot less MCU-setup than I remembered, although maybe it's just become the standard now.
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Mar 2, 2018 00:50
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K. Waste posted:Oliver Stone's Alexander is a pretty dead-on antecedent to 300, in that both are clever allegorical revisions of history that use the mythological opposition between Western civilization and the Orient to satirize the rhetoric of contemporary U.S. 'foreign policy.' In each film, however, there's this also very earnest, overtly sensual fantasy of the Greek hero actually being a defiantly 'progressive' - Alexander wants to completely assimilate his empire so that he can make a world for him and Hephaistion of freer love; Leonidas doesn't want religion to check reasonable, collectivist opposition to imperialism. Baby steps. What both films fetishize is precisely this self-sacrificial discipline, with Alexander as a much better sequel than Rise of an Empire depicting how this same mythology and rhetoric leads to the trudging death cult that Alexander inspires, and eventually loses completely. This is so dumb and ahsitorical. The hellenistic world was not only okay with male/male love, they exhalted it over male/female love.
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Mar 2, 2018 02:26
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Doctor Spaceman posted:When I rewatched it recently there was a lot less MCU-setup than I remembered, although maybe it's just become the standard now. It's just dull as hell. Even outside of Avengers set up, they still crammed about three plots in there.
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Charlz Guybon posted:This is so dumb and ahsitorical. The hellenistic world was not only okay with male/male love, they exhalted it over male/female love. It’s not meant to be a work of documentary history.
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Mar 2, 2018 03:20
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ungulateman posted:"harvesting the planet's core was suicide!" Rigidly centrally planned economies have been even worse at safeguarding the enviornment than capatilist ones. Look at the Soviet bloc.
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Mar 2, 2018 03:28
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Charlz Guybon posted:This is so dumb and ahsitorical. The hellenistic world was not only okay with male/male love, they exhalted it over male/female love. You're semi-accurate. Male/male love was exalted, but also practiced systematically. If the ancient Greeks exalted male/male love over male/female love, this was always in the context of an entrenched patriarchal society that already didn't have the highest view of women to begin with - and, indeed, viewed the polarization between masculine and feminine natures as integral to the secure and moderate functioning of a society. Male/male love in military service and among warriors was undoubtedly significant, but the more overt practice of male/male love was structured by conventional power relationships, particularly class and age. Even in the space of male/male love, the paradigmatic associations between man-woman, masculine-feminine, active-passive, dominant-submissive carried over from heterosexual relationships. In my post, I describe Alexander the fictional character's desire to build a kingdom of 'free love.' This is not the same as a society that systematically practices male-male love with the condition that you can still surrender your dignity and pride by assuming the 'submissive' role of a woman. The dramatization in Alexander is historically imprecise, but it is not in a sense inaccurate or inexplicable. The film is presenting a "counter-myth"* in which the homosexuality of ancient Greece is presented as consistent with the oppression of American ideology. Alexander can have sex with men, but as Aristotle teaches, he must 'moderate' himself. The feminizing immoderation that Alexander's contemporaries fear - paralleling their bigotry towards recognizing the equality of "barbarians" - is represented in the film by Hephaistion offering Alexander a wedding ring. *to use Stone's description of JFK
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Charlz Guybon posted:Rigidly centrally planned economies have been even worse at safeguarding the enviornment than capatilist ones. Look at the Soviet bloc. the film has a council of aristocrats dressed up in ridiculous gold filigree arguing that change is bad and that everyone should keep doing what they're doing
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The MSJ posted:I would also like to see the version of Iron Man 2 with the original storyline intact and half the movie is not an Avengers prologue. Yeah, I really want to see this.
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Mar 2, 2018 04:23
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Fart City posted:Red State is a really compelling concept that is absolutely wasted in its execution. It was the first time I really felt Smith was exposed in being out of his depth, which is a shame because the set-up is extremely fertile ground, but its potential never gets capitalized on. The ending is particularly egregious because it toes the line of doing something really ballsy, but then almost immediately doubles back and plays it safe. This is from a couple pages back, but I cut him slack about the ending not going balls deeps in the whole "Rapture" idea, despite the ending being a wet fart otherwise. He went on about it at one point saying he wanted to do it (and had so far as written it), but he didn't have the budget to go through with it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DtXEtwAVgEc
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One part that stood out for me in the new Cloak & Dagger trailer. https://i.imgur.com/s4uz6Ou.mp4 The MSJ fucked around with this message at 10:11 on Mar 2, 2018 |
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Mar 2, 2018 10:07
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Has the Simpsons episode about the Radioactive Man movie aged scarily well? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U58IdBjMeS4
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Mar 2, 2018 11:10
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Cloak and dagger? I hardly know er!
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Charlz Guybon posted:Rigidly centrally planned economies have been even worse at safeguarding the enviornment than capatilist ones. Look at the Soviet bloc. From the famously pro-Soviet New York Times: https://www.nytimes.com/2017/08/07/opinion/lenin-environment-siberia.html
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ungulateman posted:the film has a council of aristocrats dressed up in ridiculous gold filigree arguing that change is bad and that everyone should keep doing what they're doing 
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Mar 2, 2018 18:57
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I mistakenly read this as “alarmy stock photo,” and I was like, yeah.
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Mar 2, 2018 19:14
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The argument being made is that everything in Krypton is planned, so it can't comment on capitalism since that demands free markets. Currently, it is possible for corporations to use your Facebook account to create accurate psychological profiles for purposes of marketing and political campaigning. And this is in free-market democracies.
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Mar 2, 2018 19:17
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BravestOfTheLamps posted:The argument being made is that everything in Krypton is planned, so it can't comment on capitalism since that demands free markets. you're missing a word there; it's centrally planned economies that are distinct from free-market ones. all economies are planned to some extent, the difference is a free-market economy has a shitload of players all planning for themselves/against each other whereas a centrally planned economy is controlled primarily (if not entirely) by one central governing body. if all those corporations were nationalized, were doing that, and were sharing their data with each other free of charge, you'd have more of a point there
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Mar 2, 2018 21:24
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The exact nature of Krypton's economy is kinda irrelevant because it's not the Cold War anyone and there's no ideology-A or ideology-B to be criticising. There is one ideological system with a virtual monopoly of power in the world, so if a fictional world bears an uncanny resemblance to our own (or our 'future'), there's only really one ideology it can be criticising.
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Mar 2, 2018 21:35
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Yeah, we don't see enough of Kryptonian society to determine how their economy functions from, like, a sci-fi world building perspective. The criticism of capitalism comes from stuff like the comparison between Krypton imploding from over-exploitation and the burning oil rig. It's capitalism, acting as it does in coordination with the states, that's doing that today, independent of how Krypton's ruling council got there.
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Mar 2, 2018 21:36
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LORD OF BOOTY posted:you're missing a word there; it's centrally planned economies that are distinct from free-market ones. all economies are planned to some extent, the difference is a free-market economy has a shitload of players all planning for themselves/against each other whereas a centrally planned economy is controlled primarily (if not entirely) by one central governing body. The example used was Kryptonian children are genetically engineered to fit roles, which is like centrally planned economies somehow because both are... rigid forms of behaviour. Thus it can't be capitalist because capitalism is not rigid.
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Mar 2, 2018 21:39
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Imagine reading Brave New World and coming away with the take "This says nothing about capitalism."
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Mar 2, 2018 21:43
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And note that resource extraction is a relatively-centrally-planned area in modern capitalism. An offshore oil rig isn't exactly a laissez faire, just plop one down wherever you want sort of thing.
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BravestOfTheLamps posted:The example used was Kryptonian children are genetically engineered to fit roles, which is like centrally planned economies somehow because both are... rigid forms of behaviour. Thus it can't be capitalist because capitalism is not rigid. yeah that's kind of a bad example and doesn't really fit either because even in a centrally planned economy you don't necessarily do one thing for your entire goddamn life, resources (both capital and labor) still shift according to where they're needed. you just have one central governing body putting people where they need to be at any given time, instead of market pressures theoretically causing this to happen organically. e: like I'm honestly not a hundred percent sure if i'm agreeing with you or disagreeing with you because I haven't really been following this conversation, I'm just clarifying a concept you seemed to slightly miss the nuance in WeedlordGoku69 fucked around with this message at 21:49 on Mar 2, 2018 |
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Mar 2, 2018 21:47
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BravestOfTheLamps posted:The example used was Kryptonian children are genetically engineered to fit roles, which is like centrally planned economies somehow because both are... rigid forms of behaviour. Thus it can't be capitalist because capitalism is not rigid. Look, in order to "genetically engineer" children for roles in our society, you would start them working in factories really young...oh
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Mar 2, 2018 22:49
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Plato once wrote a message to fellow educators, telling them that while it's normal to want to gently caress your young beautiful students up the rear end, you shouldn't do it if it would get in the way of their education.
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Mar 2, 2018 23:51
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So I read up about that Krypton TV show, and apparently it's not just a prequel. It's about Adam Strange travelling from the future to make sure baby Kal-El ends up on Earth. That cape he gives to Superman's grandfather is literally Superman's cape, and if Adam fails in his mission it would fade from existence like Marty in Back To The Future.
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Mar 3, 2018 02:23
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Then....who made Superman's cape? *electric guitar plays Beethoven's 5th symphony*
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On one hand, that sounds stupid. On the other hand, oh gently caress Adam Strange is finally coming to TV, baby!!
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