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less laughter posted:Obviously, since I love you most of all.  aww
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Zulily Zoetrope posted:Isn't there a fairy version of the silk scarf? I dunno what it is off-hand, but there's always the Pixie Plate. Surprisingly, there isn't. The Pixie Plate is the only item that works like that for Fairy attacks, which is strange since they also made a Fairy Gem but its never been made available.
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Mar 2, 2018 13:49
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Zuzie posted:Surprisingly, there isn't. The Pixie Plate is the only item that works like that for Fairy attacks, which is strange since they also made a Fairy Gem but its never been made available. Wouldn't Metronome make more sense for echoed voice anyway?
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Mar 2, 2018 15:45
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Fake or not, Pokémon designs after Gen 2 have been trash. With maybe Gen 7 being (mostly) an exception.
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Mar 2, 2018 17:58
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Astoundingly Ugly Baby posted:Fake or not, Pokémon designs after Gen 2 have been trash. With maybe Gen 7 being (mostly) an exception. Turn your Nintendo® 3DS® on
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Mar 2, 2018 18:01
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it goes 2 4 6 [1 or 5] [7 or 3]
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Gen V has the highest concentration of good designs so far. It has a bunch of real stinkers as well, but the Litwick, Mienfoo, Joltik, and Scraggy lines, to name a few, are all aces.
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Mar 2, 2018 18:11
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Astoundingly Ugly Baby posted:Fake or not, Pokémon designs after Gen 2 have been trash. With maybe Gen 7 being (mostly) an exception. This but exactly the opposite
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Mar 2, 2018 18:14
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Zore posted:This but exactly the opposite Yeah Gen 1 (and ESPECIALLY Gen 2) are all really loving boring designs that largely coast by on pure nostalgia. The vast majority of them are "What if animal..but a little big?" and the ones that have actually interesting concepts to them were done much much better in the following generations (for example: Voltorb/Electrode compared to Foongus/Amoongus). Gen 2 was made up mostly of pokemon that did not make the cut for Gen 1 and there's a reason most of them didn't make it! GEn 3-4 there were finding their legs and Gen 5 is straight up the most consistently well designed bunch with 6 and 7 close behind. Pokemon's a pretty rad franchise in that they get straight up better with each passing iteration, in both designs and mechanics.
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Mar 2, 2018 18:29
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I would raise that adorable fire snake into a giant adorable fire snake, even if it's 4x weak to water.
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Mar 2, 2018 18:34
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Astoundingly Ugly Baby posted:Fake or not, Pokémon designs after Gen 2 have been trash. With maybe Gen 7 being (mostly) an exception. Smash your inch-thick rose-tinted glasses and swallow the shards.
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Mar 2, 2018 18:36
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ZenMasterBullshit posted:Yeah Gen 1 (and ESPECIALLY Gen 2) are all really loving boring designs that largely coast by on pure nostalgia. The vast majority of them are "What if animal..but a little big?" and the ones that have actually interesting concepts to them were done much much better in the following generations (for example: Voltorb/Electrode compared to Foongus/Amoongus). Honestly, I think there's a lot to be said for pokemon designs that feel like they could conceivably be a real (if somewhat magical) animal in an actual ecosystem. The plainness of gen 1's designs really works in their favour that way, since their general resemblance to real animals makes them very believable as real animals. Generally, across all the generations, the weakest ones are the ones that feel more like cartoon characters than animals - Politoed, Probopass, the elemental monkeys, Klefki, and so on. Nostalgia certainly adds to that believability. It's easy to imagine an ecosystem with Jigglypuffs in it if you were doing it when you were ten. Every generation since I was that age I've thought the new mons' designs were stupid, until something convinced me to actually play the games, and I learned to love them.
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Tenebrais posted:Honestly, I think there's a lot to be said for pokemon designs that feel like they could conceivably be a real (if somewhat magical) animal in an actual ecosystem. The plainness of gen 1's designs really works in their favour that way, since their general resemblance to real animals makes them very believable as real animals. Generally, across all the generations, the weakest ones are the ones that feel more like cartoon characters than animals - Politoed, Probopass, the elemental monkeys, Klefki, and so on. But there's a way to do that without being Seel the Seal. Gen 5 did this a lot, things like Zebstrika, The Boldure line, Amoongus, Krookodile, Marcactus, Swoobat etc. They're natural thing + a visual theme. The fit in a world just as well as any of the Gen 1 pokes, but they've got something to them other than being A Big Animal. Even comparing their grass type pokemon. Gen 1 has A Big Pitcher Plant and A Rafflesia plant. Gen 5 has a cotton boll that is also a sheep, using the raw cotton to form its wool and a carnation that is a Southern Belle dressed for a ball (With a focus on learning dance moves to help go along with that) ZenMasterBullshit fucked around with this message at 19:01 on Mar 2, 2018 |
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Mar 2, 2018 18:53
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All gens introduced good pokémon, some among more stinkers than others. I wanna say 3 had the fewest straight up stinkers, while 4 had the most.
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Mar 2, 2018 19:02
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OgreNoah posted:I would raise that adorable fire snake into a giant adorable fire snake, even if it's 4x weak to water. It has Desolate Land as its Hidden Ability
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Mar 2, 2018 19:04
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The tapir looks familiar and it is bugging me.
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Mar 2, 2018 19:08
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Zulily Zoetrope posted:All gens introduced good pokémon, some among more stinkers than others. Indeed but if you only care because nostalgia then of course that logic won't make sense to you. I can't think of a single gen that doesn't have a few Pokemon I love and would unconditionally use if I hadn't used them already and a bunch of others I like and would use under the right circumstances.
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Mar 2, 2018 19:41
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McDragon posted:The tapir looks familiar and it is bugging me. It looks too similar to donphan and phanpy to me. 
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Mar 2, 2018 20:44
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How is Probopass, which is based on a real thing that exists, more of a "cartoon character" than, say, Jigglypuff?
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Mar 2, 2018 20:51
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I miss the old pokemon sprites Like when Nosepass was a whistling Easter Island head  Or maybe puckering up for a smooch
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Mar 2, 2018 23:09
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All pokemon are beautiful in their own unique way.
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Mar 2, 2018 23:46
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hangedman1984 posted:All pokemon are beautiful in their own unique way. Except Stantler
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BearDrivingTruck posted:Except Stantler 
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Vinylshadow posted:I miss the old pokemon sprites I don't know if  or not, but that's his foot.
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BearDrivingTruck posted:Except Stantler stantler was pokemon thread OG redchocobo's favorite pokemon iirc
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Mar 3, 2018 00:49
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Sawsbuck is what Stantler wishes he was
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stantler >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> carnivine
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Super No Vacancy posted:stantler >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> carnivine This but exactly the opposite. Carnivine rules, Stantler is the loving worst 
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ZenMasterBullshit posted:Yeah Gen 1 (and ESPECIALLY Gen 2) are all really loving boring designs that largely coast by on pure nostalgia. The vast majority of them are "What if animal..but a little big?" and the ones that have actually interesting concepts to them were done much much better in the following generations (for example: Voltorb/Electrode compared to Foongus/Amoongus). This is straight up truth and I wish more people recognized that. I'm serious when I say I'm old, I've played literally every single pokemon gen to date from the moment they came out and have finished my pokedex three times. These days I'm the most hardcore breeder you'll ever meet. The first and second generation were just finding their footing and seriously LACKED in a lot of ways. Even back then little me had trouble making a team of my favorites because I just didn't have that many. When I see gen wunners whining about how much more fresh and original the designs used to be I'm genuinely baffled. Like....my dude. Battles sped along at the speed of smell, moves glitched out, characters weren't that interesting, and lot of pokemon designs were WANTING in a bad way. Not all of em'. But like....a lot. Little me would've been loving THRILLED to have a kickass angelic fire moth, vicious fruit queen, tuxedo mask as a rose, ninja frogs and a bat dragon. I would've loved the hell out those. Suffice to say I still love my old favorites and am very excited at the prospect of further regional variants but...come on now.
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They're all good dogs
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Nodosaur posted:How is Probopass, which is based on a real thing that exists, more of a "cartoon character" than, say, Jigglypuff? Because Jigglypuff transcends the medium of "cartoons" and easily claims the title of Ultra Mega #1 Pokemon of All Time. Everything else is a race for third place (because Wigglytuff is second)
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I tried using Stantler for a bit because I have a soft spot for awful Pokemon, but even I couldn't commit to that. It's just boring outside of its weird ugliness. Carnivine very nearly made it onto my team for this game, and still might if I decide I really want a grass Pokémon after all. uglycute Pokémon > cute Pokémon > anime badass-looking Pokemon > inanimate object-based Pokémon > humanoid Pokemon > Volbeat and Illumise Rollersnake fucked around with this message at 01:54 on Mar 3, 2018 |
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Rollersnake posted:I tried using Stantler for a bit because I have a soft spot for awful Pokemon, but even I couldn't commit to that. It's just boring outside of its weird ugliness. I realize typing is hard, but you misspelled Kanto Golem pretty badly at the end, there.
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Eh, Kanto Golem is really dull, but I'd still probably use it someday. Actually, below even the trailer trash fireflies is Roggenrola. "Hmm, we need a new obnoxiously common Pokemon to take the place of the one that looks like a turd Muppet... how about a walking butthole?" Rollersnake fucked around with this message at 04:59 on Mar 3, 2018 |
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Mar 3, 2018 04:56
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I just wish they'd put them around the volcanos more. The roggenrola line looks like obsidian anyhow.
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Funkmaster General posted:I don't know if Yep; took me an embarrassing number of years to figure that out Namely because I rarely run a Rock-type - Lycanroc was the first I ever used long-term and it instantly became my MVP due to being able to obliterate ya boi Guzma and became even more invaluable in Ultra Sun/Moon since it dominates half the totem pokémon with ease Darn shame about its move pool though
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Stantler sucks but I'll never tire of wrecking people who don't expect its movepool in Pokemon Showdown's random battle
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Gen 4 and 5 are the lemon gens for me, mainly cause 4 felt like it spent most of its time adding weird evos to some of the classic designs that don't mesh too well, and 5 have about five awful designs for every one decent one (especially those trash can starters, yikes) That being said, one of my favorite pokemon is from gen 5 (Volcarona) and it feels like the game goes out of its way to let you know it too, so I'm a bit torn here
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why does stantler have such a big butt
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Rollersnake posted:I tried using Stantler for a bit because I have a soft spot for awful Pokemon, but even I couldn't commit to that. It's just boring outside of its weird ugliness. Agree, but with the addendum that inanimate object pokémon who are ghosts are on the uglycute tier as well.
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