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Tempest_56
Mar 14, 2009

sebmojo posted:

Ammo explosions do a max damage number now, not sure how much but it wasn't too bad.

When did that change? Not a complaint, that's a good change but I don't remember seeing it. (Though to be fair I can't remember the last time I actually read the ammo explosion rules.)

Radio Free Kobold posted:

I think we got an ammo crit on something in the last mission, but I didn't see any mech-ruining ammo explosions.

The explosion is based off of how much ammo is left in that bin - since the explosion was late in the fight, it could have hit a mostly empty bin.

That said HBS almost certainly toned it down - in tabletop in this era, an ammo explosion basically translates to 'mech vaporized' because even a half-full bin is usually enough to obliterate most things under Assault-class. (A half-full bin of AC5 would be 50 damage - the SHD-2D's side+center torsos only have 52 points between them and that's if it was mint.)

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Q_res
Oct 29, 2005

We're fucking built for this shit!
Ammo bins have to be at least half full to blow, and all Mechs essentially have CASE for free

Rorahusky
Nov 12, 2012

Transform and waaauuuugh out!

PoptartsNinja posted:

Edit: That has been your BattleTech tabletop vs. video games of the day :pseudo:

In short, Anti-Infantry 'Mechs are basically walking war crimes.

Galaga Galaxian
Apr 23, 2009

What a childish tactic!
Don't you think you should put more thought into your battleplan?!


No more so than any other military vehicle designed to fight infantry. :v:

Koorisch
Mar 29, 2009

Tempest_56 posted:

That said HBS almost certainly toned it down - in tabletop in this era, an ammo explosion basically translates to 'mech vaporized' because even a half-full bin is usually enough to obliterate most things under Assault-class. (A half-full bin of AC5 would be 50 damage - the SHD-2D's side+center torsos only have 52 points between them and that's if it was mint.)

Not to mention what would happen if a ton/few tons of machinegun ammo would explode, there wouldn't even be any scraps left of you!

Scalding Coffee
Jun 26, 2006

You're already dead

Galaga Galaxian posted:

No more so than any other military vehicle designed to fight infantry. :v:
Some are better at war crimes than others.

How Disgusting
Feb 21, 2018
Depending on what parts of tac ops got used, a truck loaded with mg ammo could be a perfectly viable suicide bomb. There's even potential for chain reactions when (not if) it's able to cause further ammo explosions or reactor failures.

Anticheese
Feb 13, 2008

$60,000,000 sexbot
:rodimus:

MekHQ likes to shower you with civilian vehicles and technicals as monthly bonuses. An MG ammo bomb truck wounds way more useful than another coolant tanker.

Radio Free Kobold
Aug 11, 2012

"Federal regulations mandate that at least 30% of our content must promote Reptilian or Draconic culture. This is DJ Scratch N' Sniff with the latest mermaid screeching on KBLD..."




How Disgusting posted:

Depending on what parts of tac ops got used, a truck loaded with mg ammo could be a perfectly viable suicide bomb. There's even potential for chain reactions when (not if) it's able to cause further ammo explosions or reactor failures.

Anticheese posted:

MekHQ likes to shower you with civilian vehicles and technicals as monthly bonuses. An MG ammo bomb truck wounds way more useful than another coolant tanker.

Wait, you can do that? Ammo explosions cause splash damage? Oh my god, VBIEDs for battletech. What's the weight constraint? Okay, six tons on a ubiquitous civilian flatbed truck. Truck goes 86km/h. Let's say, three tons of MG ammo for the payload, and three tons of armor all on the frontal arc to ensure payload delivery. What sort of damage and radius would that be? Could we take out mechs with a VBIED or two to the legs?

Edit: Hey, there's an armoured variant. Two tons armor and four tons cargo. What does four tons of MG ammo look like when it explodes?

Radio Free Kobold fucked around with this message at 02:28 on Mar 3, 2018

Anticheese
Feb 13, 2008

$60,000,000 sexbot
:rodimus:

Oh you absolutely can't detonate stuff in MekHQ/MegaMek and take out mechs with your own ammo explosions, but you will get a bunch of SRM2s on flatbeds and stuff like that.

Anticheese fucked around with this message at 02:35 on Mar 3, 2018

Phrosphor
Feb 25, 2007

Urbanisation

Anticheese posted:

Oh you absolutely can't detonate stuff in MekHQ/MegaMek and take out mechs with your own ammo explosions, but you will get a bunch of SRM2s on flatbeds and stuff like that.

I think low intensity Battletech might be a lot of fun. Light vehicles, technicals and 20 ton mechs.

Jimmy4400nav
Apr 1, 2011

Ambassador to Moonlandia

professor_curly posted:

Which version of MekHQ are you running? I had a similar problem when I downloaded the first version I found, but then dug a bit deeper and downloaded the latest version that works more or less fine. I pulled it off this page ongithub and that has worked out so far.

Oh snap, it looks like I'm running version 0.3.16, I'll have to give this one a go! Thanks!

Phrosphor
Feb 25, 2007

Urbanisation

Jimmy4400nav posted:

Oh snap, it looks like I'm running version 0.3.16, I'll have to give this one a go! Thanks!

I made the exact same mistake when I first tried to set this up. If you Google mekhq the version that comes up isn't the most recent one.

Radio Free Kobold
Aug 11, 2012

"Federal regulations mandate that at least 30% of our content must promote Reptilian or Draconic culture. This is DJ Scratch N' Sniff with the latest mermaid screeching on KBLD..."




Phrosphor posted:

I think low intensity Battletech might be a lot of fun. Light vehicles, technicals and 20 ton mechs.

You say "Low intensity battletech", I hear "Use Battletech to model the Syrian Civil War"

Tempest_56
Mar 14, 2009

Radio Free Kobold posted:

Wait, you can do that? Ammo explosions cause splash damage?

It's one of a number of optional rules that are floating out there - that one in particular is in Tactical Operations, page 78. It isn't used much but it can be hilarious under certain circumstances. (Saladins in particular are amazing as they carry 3 tons of AC20 ammo and explode at the drop of a hat.)

Phrosphor
Feb 25, 2007

Urbanisation



Our results for statups are as follows:

Lionheart gains a point in Gunnery.
Jimmums also gains a point in Gunnery.
Screech increases her Guts.
Figment increases her Gunnery, and gains a second point in Gunnery for MVP.



Figment and Lionheart are now tied for the best shot in the unit!

Working quickly, Troy secures the Large Laser, LRM 5 and the wrecks of the Griffin and the Firestarter.

With our salvage allowance taken into account, our total salvage debt to ComStar currently sits at: 9,852,279.16 CBills.

Guziki tracks down the ComStar Liasion that is assigned to our unit and demands answers.

: “What troubles you my son?”

: “Cut the act, tell me what is going on here. You gave us bad intelligence and we almost lost the entire lance.”

: “The fog of war blankets everything, knowing is half the battle. I promise you commander, I have passed on to you everything that my Acolytes have been able to divine.”

: “I said drop the act. If this company is wiped out because you didn’t provide us with the correct information, then who is going to defend you? I don’t believe that you didn’t know that Lance was out there. Just who the hell are we fighting? Pirates are not this well equipped or supplied. And why are they only engaging us out in the wilderness?”

: “Watch your tone, mercenary. Do not dare to insult ComStar or question that which you cannot hope to understand. You and your people are here to do a job. If you wish to be paid for your services I expect obediance and professionalism. Be warned that you owe my masters a lot of money, that is something you should be concerning yourself with. Fight where and when I say and you shall be paid well. Question my motives and I will make life difficult for you. Do we have an understanding? If that is all, you are dismissed… Commander.”

Meanwhile, the Techs get to work on our Mechs. The first thing that Jack does is attempt to salvage the AC10 from Nasir’s wrecked Urbanmech.



He continues to shine and successfully salvages it, which means we can fit a replacement for the Enforcer.

The two of them then focus their efforts for the next few days on getting the 3 damaged mechs back to fighting condition, leaving the Enforcer for now.



After three days in the Infirmary, Jimmums decides he is fighting fit again. He makes sure that Guziki knows that he is ready for deployment. Troy and Jack are forced to suffer through his presence whenever they work on the ShadowHawk until it is ready. Jimmums doesn’t want to miss whatever is coming next.





Somehow I missed screenshots for repairs on the next couple of days, however Nasir and Inspector both heal up over this period.





We have finished the majority of the repairs at this point, so Jack and Troy start to work on bringing the Locust up to combat readiness. Most of the company join in with the work.

On the 18th, the Liaison visits the company repair facilities and quickly seeks out Guziki, who is helping out with some of the simpler jobs on the Locust.

: “1 week from today. You must head up into upper highlands. I can’t say what you will find there - but it is imperative that you do. This is an order from my masters.”

: “Boss this is bullshit, what the hell is going on.”

: “Your contract demands that you go where we say, and fight what we say. Do not make me report that I am dissatisfied with your work here, mercenary.”


MechHQ has decided that we have another mission on July24th.



The day of the mission, the company gather as our original and most experienced lance of MechWarriors prepare to headout into the field. Guziki wishes each of them good luck while Troy runs a small pool on whether this will be the mission that finally ends Jimmums career. Stovepipe has even recovered enough to leave the Infirmary to see them off.



Lionheart pilots his Trebuchet,


Jimmums is in the Shadowhawk,


Figment has been awarded the use of the Enforcer,


Nasir is piloting the Commando.







**********************






Flamester
Dec 30, 2012
Well, its official. Comstar wants us dead.

Pharnakes
Aug 14, 2009
RIP us.

Section Z
Oct 1, 2008

Wait, this is the Moon.
How did I even get here?

Pillbug
We're probably fine so long as Comstar is still trying to outsource our deaths between boilerplate threats, instead of just shrugging and hammering the "Assaults fall, everyone gets their license revoked" button.

PoptartsNinja
May 9, 2008

He is still almost definitely not a spy


Soiled Meat
The first mission was a legitimate pirate threat.

Everything else has been a way for them to test whether some of their "periphery recruits" are worthy of joining the ComGuards.

Section Z
Oct 1, 2008

Wait, this is the Moon.
How did I even get here?

Pillbug

PoptartsNinja posted:

The first mission was a legitimate pirate threat.

Everything else has been a way for them to test whether some of their "periphery recruits" are worthy of joining the ComGuards.
Oh, so Comstar is out to get the people we're replacing by having us kill them. Much better.

sebmojo
Oct 23, 2010


Legit Cyberpunk









Nice writing in the dialogue, Phros.

PoptartsNinja
May 9, 2008

He is still almost definitely not a spy


Soiled Meat

Section Z posted:

Oh, so Comstar is out to get the people we're replacing by having us kill them. Much better.

It wouldn't be the first time a Precentor has gone "mad," and if they get caught ComStar can always blame it on a rogue who they will "escort back to Terra to give psychiatric help" and then actually just quietly rename them and shuffle them off to run an HPG station on the other side of the Inner Sphere as a reward.

ComStar changes names about as often as they change their robes. Which isn't often, but they will do it when other people start to notice that peculiar odor.


"I have paid for two mercenary units, one company-sized, one lance-sized, and told each that the other is actually a band of pirates. I will pit them against one another to test my hypothesis that larger units will always contain more skilled Mechwarriors by virtue of having a bigger talent pool to draw upon. There is, of course, an actual pirate band to test them against as a control. With this baseline data we should--"

"Precentor, how can you afford that?"

"Oh, I've written it into the discretionary funding for commissary foodstuffs."

Anticheese
Feb 13, 2008

$60,000,000 sexbot
:rodimus:

Food budget? So when you talk of saving the metal and dealing with the meat... :gonk:

Leith Maclaine
Mar 2, 2018

Adventure comes from insufficient planning.
(IC Commentary from one of the guys waiting in the wings unless anyone says I'm out of line)

A small capellan man comes up to John Guziki. "I understand you are not trusting your Intel sir. I am Han Tso and I will do what I can in your Intellegence Billet until you have enough mechs for me to pilot again. This mission appears to be another recon in force. The operational timing shows that the quote pirates unquote do not have overwhelming strength to attack us. But they are trying to whittle us down and make this planet a focal point for something else. I will see what else I can find from the intercepts. Thank you kind sir."

Amechwarrior
Jan 29, 2007


poo poo, phase 2 means a Heavy or possibly an Assault with Master Tactician. "Unknown Mech Unknown Mech" means we are dealing with some kind of mecha-shiva and are in for double the trouble!

Cythereal
Nov 8, 2009

I love the potoo,
and the potoo loves you.

Amechwarrior posted:

poo poo, phase 2 means a Heavy or possibly an Assault with Master Tactician. "Unknown Mech Unknown Mech" means we are dealing with some kind of mecha-shiva and are in for double the trouble!

I'm guessing it's either a Frankenmech or it's an SLDF mech that's not common knowledge. If it's the latter, the possibilities that scare me most are a Royal Guard variant of the Champion (packs a gauss rifle and an ER PPC), an Exterminator (hello cloaking mechs), or a Galahad (two gauss rifles).

90s Cringe Rock
Nov 29, 2006
:gay:
Two urbanmechs in a big coat. :ohdear:

Leith Maclaine
Mar 2, 2018

Adventure comes from insufficient planning.
As Han monitors the signals channels he mashes the com button "Analysis suggests a quickdraw. Most other heavies would be in back to take advantage of long range fire. Jimmuns, be prepared for someone trying to get into a slugging match with you."

Amechwarrior
Jan 29, 2007

90s Cringe Rock posted:

Two urbanmechs in a big coat. :ohdear:

If Phros can pull that off, goldmine this thread immediately.

Scintilla
Aug 24, 2010

I BEAT HIGHFORT
and all I got was this
jackass monkey

90s Cringe Rock posted:

Two urbanmechs in a big coat. :ohdear:

You mean an Imp?

goatface
Dec 5, 2007

I had a video of that when I was about 6.

I remember it being shit.


Grimey Drawer
That's more like four Urbies in a big coat.

Cythereal
Nov 8, 2009

I love the potoo,
and the potoo loves you.

Leith Maclaine posted:

As Han monitors the signals channels he mashes the com button "Analysis suggests a quickdraw. Most other heavies would be in back to take advantage of long range fire. Jimmuns, be prepared for someone trying to get into a slugging match with you."

Someone would probably recognize a Quickdraw, though, they're an SLDF design but they're a fairly common sight throughout the Inner Sphere and have Kurita and Marik variants.

Jimmy4400nav
Apr 1, 2011

Ambassador to Moonlandia

90s Cringe Rock posted:

Two urbanmechs in a big coat. :ohdear:

Vincent Adultmech

Radio Free Kobold
Aug 11, 2012

"Federal regulations mandate that at least 30% of our content must promote Reptilian or Draconic culture. This is DJ Scratch N' Sniff with the latest mermaid screeching on KBLD..."




90s Cringe Rock posted:

Two urbanmechs in a big coat. :ohdear:

HELLO FELLOW MECHS, IT IS YOUR GOOD FRIEND ATLAS wait atlas?shut up! HERE WITH THREE AC/10 AND THREE MEDIUM LASERS. I AM VERY SLOW BUT THAT IS OKAY BECAUSE I HAVE A LOT OF ARMOR.

Cythereal
Nov 8, 2009

I love the potoo,
and the potoo loves you.
Comedy option: it's a Goliath, Scorpion, or Xanthos. They're the only known mechs of their type in the Inner Sphere at this time, and very rare sights that would probably throw most MechWarriors for a serious loop seeing one in the field. The Goliath and Scorpion are long-range fire support mechs, but the Xanthos is packing an AC/20 in its stock model.

Leith Maclaine
Mar 2, 2018

Adventure comes from insufficient planning.

Cythereal posted:

Someone would probably recognize a Quickdraw, though, they're an SLDF design but they're a fairly common sight throughout the Inner Sphere and have Kurita and Marik variants.

I am assuming we have sensor blips but not visual yet.

PoptartsNinja
May 9, 2008

He is still almost definitely not a spy


Soiled Meat

Cythereal posted:

Comedy option: it's a Goliath, Scorpion, or Xanthos. They're the only known mechs of their type in the Inner Sphere at this time, and very rare sights that would probably throw most MechWarriors for a serious loop seeing one in the field. The Goliath and Scorpion are long-range fire support mechs, but the Xanthos is packing an AC/20 in its stock model.

Sadly, quads didn't make the cut for HBS BattleTech.

My money's on a JagerMech, and if anyone else played the demo, that is legitimately terrifying.

Yes, HBS managed to make the JagerMech good.

painedforever
Sep 12, 2017

Quem Deus Vult Perdere, Prius Dementat.

PoptartsNinja posted:

Sadly, quads didn't make the cut for HBS BattleTech.

My money's on a JagerMech, and if anyone else played the demo, that is legitimately terrifying.

Yes, HBS managed to make the JagerMech good.

That will make the Lyrans happy, certainly.

It is a Lyran design, right? Or am I misremembering?

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Grognan
Jan 23, 2007

by Fluffdaddy
If it is something terrifying and it gets headshot and salvaged immediately wtf is going to happen then?

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