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Prav
Oct 29, 2011

HorrificExistence posted:

If you ever watch Stalinist films like Падение Берлина, you'll see that they thought of the Americans as the good allies. Especially compared to the British

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t-hZam8dXHU&t=3838s

but then compared to the british, who isn't a good ally?

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Dreddout
Oct 1, 2015

You must stay drunk on writing so reality cannot destroy you.

Prav posted:

but then compared to the british, who isn't a good ally?

Italians?

freckle
Apr 6, 2016

by Nyc_Tattoo
https://twitter.com/AnalPissMachine/status/969292441684672513

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy
https://twitter.com/NatalieRevolts/status/969757320753434624

Sheng-Ji Yang
Mar 5, 2014



lol

Yossarian-22
Oct 26, 2014
Probation
Can't post for 5 hours!

Pener Kropoopkin posted:

Imagine you wake up one day in 1905 after living your whole life under the thumb of white supremacy, then you read the news and see that one of the most powerful modern fleets created by a white empire just got destroyed by a race of inscrutable yellow Asiatics. How could you not love them?

this is how tankies were born

except i guess submariners in this case idk

Victory Position
Mar 16, 2004

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

Aw yeah that hits me right in the tank.

Yossarian-22 posted:

this is how tankies were born

except i guess submariners in this case idk

What a bunch of dumbasses, latching onto any proof that refuted white supremacy. Grow the gently caress up, W.E.B. DuBois.

For his next trick, Yossarian-22 will repost the BBC radio segment where they called Paul Robeson one of Stalin's "useful idiots" because he visited the Soviet Union and felt like a human being for the first time in his life.

The_Politics_Man
Aug 25, 2015
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kmFjjaFNHKo

Yossarian-22
Oct 26, 2014
Probation
Can't post for 5 hours!

Pener Kropoopkin posted:

Aw yeah that hits me right in the tank.


What a bunch of dumbasses, latching onto any proof that refuted white supremacy. Grow the gently caress up, W.E.B. DuBois.

For his next trick, Yossarian-22 will repost the BBC radio segment where they called Paul Robeson one of Stalin's "useful idiots" because he visited the Soviet Union and felt like a human being for the first time in his life.

"stalin was cool af, woke dead guy with ultimate intellectual authority can vouch for me"

"he liked the imperial japanese too"

"...ya but WHO WOULDN'T?!"

Yossarian-22
Oct 26, 2014
Probation
Can't post for 5 hours!
i'm only willing to excuse it if it was just shitposting like lf support of islamic fundamentalism. if web dubois spread fdr did pearl harbor memes then all is forgiven

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy
240kg bombs can't melt steel deck armor

rudatron
May 31, 2011

by Fluffdaddy
I'm not sure you can blame DuBois, and certainly it doesn't support any moralistic poo poo.

But perhaps the lesson here is that not every expression of resistance is a priori emancipatory. Anyone paying attention would have known the rhetoric Japan was peddling was empty, it was just a rationalization for their own designs.

OTOH We also can't ignore that the rhetoric and war against Japan was also extremely racialized, and didn't really pay much mind to for example the chinese peasants, who suffered in all this. It's also telling that the Yellow Peril rhetoric basically transferred directly from Japan to China, in the post-war era, because of Mao.

rudatron
May 31, 2011

by Fluffdaddy
but globalization shows once again that it's the bourgeoisie that is the most revolutionary class in history

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JwnzY2pxt4I&t=420s

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer
https://twitter.com/UnculusFunkulus/status/969388791164268544

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer
https://twitter.com/Jonathon_Shafi/status/969632527790034944

https://twitter.com/Jonathon_Shafi/status/969632731251511296

R. Guyovich
Dec 25, 1991


lmao

fabergay egg
Mar 1, 2012

it's not a rhetorical question, for politely saying 'you are an idiot, you don't know what you are talking about'


20th century redux looking good. still a year to go until hitler2.0 joins up

Larry Parrish
Jul 9, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Can't wait for the gamestop puscht or whatever the gently caress

WhiskeyJuvenile
Feb 15, 2002

by Nyc_Tattoo
https://twitter.com/getfiscal/status/969991739380502529?s=21

Grand Prize Winner
Feb 19, 2007


Best Giraffe posted:

20th century redux looking good. still a year to go until hitler2.0 joins up

Next hitler is probably already doing remf poo poo in Ukraine or Syria, imo

Yossarian-22
Oct 26, 2014
Probation
Can't post for 5 hours!

this is what ppl who read settlers actually believe

fabergay egg
Mar 1, 2012

it's not a rhetorical question, for politely saying 'you are an idiot, you don't know what you are talking about'


Grand Prize Winner posted:

Next hitler is probably already doing remf poo poo in Ukraine or Syria, imo

I will protect Fuhrer PissPigGrandad with my life

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

Yossarian-22 posted:

this is what ppl who read settlers actually believe

those people are 100% correct

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer
i posted this in the UK thread but if any of you don't read it this is a really good interview with Corbyns no 2 and the man in charge of the budget if labour get into power with corbyn as leader

https://twitter.com/PickardJE/statu...r%3D364%23pti29

quote:

He has faced abuse for his views too, he says, for example when he advocated gay-friendly policies at the GLC in the 1980s: “I had my window smashed, milk bottles broken in my children’s sandpit and maggots poured through my letter box.”

Jose fucked around with this message at 21:34 on Mar 3, 2018

Bryter
Nov 6, 2011

but since we are small we may-
uh, we may be the losers
https://twitter.com/PickardJE/status/969504180028264448?s=19

imagine all the people who are outraged at McDonnell's glorification of the non-existent IRNLA

GalacticAcid
Apr 8, 2013

NEW YORK VALUES
Hmm must be referencing the INLA, which was an offshoot of the Official IRA that rejected the OIRA ceasefire

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy
https://twitter.com/americas_crimes/status/970099274175385600

Kindest Forums User
Mar 25, 2008

Let me tell you about my opinion about Bernie Sanders and why Donald Trump is his true successor.

You cannot vote Hillary Clinton because she is worse than Trump.

Jose posted:

i posted this in the UK thread but if any of you don't read it this is a really good interview with Corbyns no 2 and the man in charge of the budget if labour get into power with corbyn as leader

https://twitter.com/PickardJE/statu...r%3D364%23pti29

I took a peek in comments and our friend West Tipp had this to say:


quote:

We live in shifting times; a most serious concern which is not discussed enough is the access and availability to resources in order to live and survive long term; quality farmland, water, and energy - energy supplies which allow us to have electricity, drive cars and essentially provide us with the modern living conditions we are witnessing. If one looks hard at the figures ; the living standards of current western civilisation is unsustainable. Forget about climate change this is much more pressing.  Therefore for a new economy to thrive; it should be built on providing the ideal conditions for supporting small and medium business to excel with quality credit and investment; a modern form of local/global  capitalism.  Central planning on all levels wether it be food production or government fails at some stage. There are many examples in history going back to the Romans to tell us loud and clear.

God drat West Tipp. you we so close

GalacticAcid
Apr 8, 2013

NEW YORK VALUES
. nvm

GunnerJ
Aug 1, 2005

Do you think this is funny?
What's the deal with Corbyn and that one labor guy who was antisemitic? Is it a bad faith smear or is Corbyn legit loving up?

Plutonis
Mar 25, 2011

It's britain so it's 100% bad faith

Frijolero
Jan 24, 2009

by Nyc_Tattoo
If Corbyn is ballsy enough to hang around Hamas and poo poo, he's probably not dumb enough to hang around anti-semites.

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer

GunnerJ posted:

What's the deal with Corbyn and that one labor guy who was antisemitic? Is it a bad faith smear or is Corbyn legit loving up?

the corbyn stuff is a load of bollocks but ken livingstone is a 70 year old man who probably has dementia and loves giving interviews because he has nothing else to do where he wants to tell you at length about how hitler approved of israel

MikeCrotch
Nov 5, 2011

I AM UNJUSTIFIABLY PROUD OF MY SPAGHETTI BOLOGNESE RECIPE

YES, IT IS AN INCREDIBLY SIMPLE DISH

NO, IT IS NOT NORMAL TO USE A PEPPERAMI INSTEAD OF MINCED MEAT

YES, THERE IS TOO MUCH SALT IN MY RECIPE

NO, I WON'T STOP SHARING IT

more like BOLLOCKnese

Jose posted:

the corbyn stuff is a load of bollocks but ken livingstone is a 70 year old man who probably has dementia and loves giving interviews because he has nothing else to do where he wants to tell you at length about how hitler approved of israel

He's also been suspended repeatedly while a report into antisemitism in the party stated that it wasn't an institutional problem

Remember that the same papers who like to bang on about antisemitism are the same papers who heavily implied that Ed Miliband couldn't be trusted because he was the son of a commie jew

Bryter
Nov 6, 2011

but since we are small we may-
uh, we may be the losers
There is definitely an anti-semitic crank component to the pro-corbyn wing of Labour, but it's vastly overstated and there's actually quite a lot of it on the fringes of the other parties too. it just isn't as neat of a narrative, so nobody covers it much

BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


Lipstick Apathy

BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


Lipstick Apathy
i heard once that there's an anti-semitic streak in the lib dems which is bizarre if so.

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

European history is one big antisemitic streak.

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Dreddout
Oct 1, 2015

You must stay drunk on writing so reality cannot destroy you.

Pener Kropoopkin posted:

European history is one big streak.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jLKnCeeAW48

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