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Mans posted:I've had a weird sitaution happen in my FM17. Not sure I've seen this, but I've definitely run into a bug where the Copa America just stops happening. Ruined a Chilean save for me.
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Mans posted:The AI can fail those? I honestly assumed those would be a player thing mostly. Yeah, AI can fail that. I've been watching some really nerdy YouTube videos recently where a guy just edits stuff for fun and sims the game to see what happens. In one of them, he gave a non league team £1b and at one point, they won the League Cup, but weren't in Europe the next year. Here's the channel if anyone's interested: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCwoaMMnyGPRFZi9cStQKaig Not super exciting, but interesting to see how the AI works in certain situations.
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Waroduce posted:How do I run a 5-3-2 or a 5-3-1-1 in fm? I've really struggled to get a strike partnership working this year, but I've actually got a decent 5 at the back going with a DLP-D, BWM-S in midfield, 2 AP-A ahead of them and an AF leading the line. DLP should be able to ping passes about and decent positionally to break up counters, BWM is your destroyer but will also get forward and smack them from the edge of the area so an ability to finish is really useful there, and the AP should be pacey and able to beat a man 1 on 1 (high dribbling, flair, creativity etc). They'll float inside and out and kinda act like inside forwards, finding gaps between center backs and fullbacks. I've been using a Libero as the central man in the back line to give an extra body in midfield when attacking too, it owns but you can't play an offside trap ever at all with it cos you won't have a flat back line.
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Jan 28, 2018 22:44
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Alot of tactics I see run DLP (D) and BWM (S)....why? I kind of thought the other way would synergize better. Like dlp (s) to allow him to float around and pass and act as a recycler and bwm (d) would make him stay back, shield the back 4 and go get stuck in on anyone attempting a counter
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Jan 29, 2018 13:40
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I couldn't figure out how to upload a youtube of it but I just had my striker score a goal where the keeper just...didn't kick the ball, and he walked up, took it from the keeper, and kicked it in the net. LOWER LEAGUES++
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Jan 29, 2018 15:28
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Waroduce posted:Alot of tactics I see run DLP (D) and BWM (S)....why? I kind of thought the other way would synergize better. Like dlp (s) to allow him to float around and pass and act as a recycler and bwm (d) would make him stay back, shield the back 4 and go get stuck in on anyone attempting a counter BWM-D is very aggressive in closing down and as a lone holding player will get destroyed on the counter. He'll charge upfield to make a tackle and be taken out with a single pass. It's a destroyer role, not a defensive/holding one. DLP-D on the other hand is very passive. and will retreat along with the defensive line, restricting space for fast counters to play in to. They also drift more when in possession, following the play from deep, making them a much more effective outlet and putting themselves in a better defensive position after turnovers, picking up runners and cutting off passing lanes. BWM are only good in dedicated high press systems. Tackling is only a minor part of ball-winning in football, and despite the name that's all the role specialises in.
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sassassin posted:BWM-D is very aggressive in closing down and as a lone holding player will get destroyed on the counter. He'll charge upfield to make a tackle and be taken out with a single pass. It's a destroyer role, not a defensive/holding one. This is 100% correct, plus if you have a bwm-d and dlp-s then neither of them will actually get forward enough to be a threat with late runs into the box ever, but the other way round will see your bwm bundle a few into the net every season even if they can't finish at all, just by virtue of them smashing around in that space knocking everyone over. e. if you want a midfielder to sit back and protect the back 4 and kick people in that space, use a regista iirc Bogan Krkic fucked around with this message at 22:05 on Jan 29, 2018 |
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2018 on sale. Buy at 25% Off? Is the match engine any better than fm2017?
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Bogan Krkic posted:This is 100% correct, plus if you have a bwm-d and dlp-s then neither of them will actually get forward enough to be a threat with late runs into the box ever, but the other way round will see your bwm bundle a few into the net every season even if they can't finish at all, just by virtue of them smashing around in that space knocking everyone over. i thought a regista was basically pirlo and offered literally no defensive contributions
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Waroduce posted:i thought a regista was basically pirlo and offered literally no defensive contributions That's just what the regista role was intended to be. In reality it defends quite well, even with a Pirlo-like player.
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I switched to dlp (d) and bwm (s) and won 4 in a row so woo. It does seem to link better and the players function closer to how I thought they would The text is super misleading though it makes the dlp (d) seem like it would be disconnected from attack.
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Feb 13, 2018 00:12
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Waroduce posted:The text is super misleading Always.
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Feb 13, 2018 00:25
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I don't know if they modified or what but inside forwards this year can absolutely dominate. speed and dribbling and shooting and just let them fly
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Waroduce posted:i thought a regista was basically pirlo and offered literally no defensive contributions idk maybe im thinking of another pseudo-latin word for anchor man bewbies posted:I don't know if they modified or what but inside forwards this year can absolutely dominate. speed and dribbling and shooting and just let them fly i've always used IF-As as part of a front 3 but they seem to make decisions like a normal player would this year, rather than just having some crippling fault like most years
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I'm using a 4-2-3-1 with actual wingers on support and an AP (A) behind an AF (A) I want to use IF but am I right in thinking that it would cause spacing issues And my AF/CF (A) would struggle to do anything or contribute due to spacing and not being fed the ball? Like hypothetically 4 players with attack duty seems bad....I could switch the top of my midfield triangle from an AP (A) to S but I have a dlp who I kind of think does enough midfield support idk Like the use of two IF (A) would require a support role out of my lone striker up top but he's one of the best players on the squad so I def want him attack and aggressive
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Feb 13, 2018 16:58
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There's not a big difference between the attacking positioning of AP-A and AP-S. AP-A runs with the ball, but not without it as an AM-A is instructed to do. They're still supposed to make themselves available for passes between the lines (although their extra attacking mentality can cause issues in certain setups).
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Bogan Krkic posted:omg this is even better than having your 2 scouts be Barry and Alex Hunter and only signing players called Barry and Alex I haven't played a recent version in ages but there at least used to be a ton of Brazilians with the name "Everton" so one time I seriously considered playing a game as Everton and trying to field a team with a starting XI all named Everton.
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Waroduce posted:I'm using a 4-2-3-1 with actual wingers on support and an AP (A) behind an AF (A) That's the exact setup I use, IF-A AP-A IF-A behind an AF-A. I agree that 4 players on attack seems like an overload but I don't have too much expectation on my fullbacks to get forward, and dropping any of those 4 into a support role sees them slip into that horrible space in FM where they just smash long shots wide all day instead of either driving forward with the ball, or waiting for support. All of the 4 have really good dribbling though so it kinda works like Man City just running riot constantly up front.
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I'm playing Millwall and i lost in the championship playoff last year but am leading the league this year comfortably. Still my wingers have dribble skills of like 12-14 so idk. I also have a feeling that I'm gunna need to go old school smash and grab hoof it and pray when I make them prem as I have to prem quality players....my CB and my AF/CF. Lookin for goalkeeper suggestions btw that I'll be able to afford
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Waroduce posted:I'm playing Millwall and i lost in the championship playoff last year but am leading the league this year comfortably. Still my wingers have dribble skills of like 12-14 so idk. If he's still playing for Tel Aviv, Predrag Rajkovic. idk if his PA is super-high in 18 like it was in 17 or 16 but he's a good ...economical buy.
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Feb 14, 2018 15:09
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Jason Sextro posted:If he's still playing for Tel Aviv, Predrag Rajkovic. idk if his PA is super-high in 18 like it was in 17 or 16 but he's a good ...economical buy. I've found him difficult to get a work permit for.
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It's 2024 and West Ham is the most reputable club in the world, after winning the quintuple of the Premier League, Champions League, Carabao Cup, Community Shield and the u18 league, all of which weirdly count as a legit first team trophy????? Also I have an insanely bloated first team squad of 38 players, but I have used all of them so idk if it's really that bloated?
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Bogan Krkic posted:It's 2024 and West Ham is the most reputable club in the world, after winning the quintuple of the Premier League, Champions League, Carabao Cup, Community Shield and the u18 league, all of which weirdly count as a legit first team trophy????? I would read this LP.
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Bogan Krkic posted:It's 2024 and West Ham is the most reputable club in the world, after winning the quintuple of the Premier League, Champions League, Carabao Cup, Community Shield and the u18 league, all of which weirdly count as a legit first team trophy????? This is what FM is all about. Not the autismally obessive tactic tweaking but the actual metaworld poo poo.
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Bogan Krkic posted:It's 2024 and West Ham is the most reputable club in the world, after winning the quintuple of the Premier League, Champions League, Carabao Cup, Community Shield and the u18 league, all of which weirdly count as a legit first team trophy????? Be honest, are you using 3 strikers...If not, what're your tactical observations so deep into the game?
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I'm playing a pretty attacking 4231. The biggest thing that I've noticed is that the AI bloody loves playing proper center forwards on the wing, and that players with poo poo passing will still hit a 70 yard cross field ball directly onto a teammates foot on a counter so shoehorning as many strikers into the front line as you can is pretty effective. Plus, same as every year, it's really really hard to find regens with high flair + creativity. Anyone want a rundown of how the footballing world looks in 2024?
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Yeah ok. Mourinho won the Premier League with United in 17/18, backed it up the next year after signing Virgil van Dijk, Yannick Carrasco and Sime Vrsaljko for big money. He then won a third title in a row in 19/20 with Xherdan Shaqiri starring and earning himself a $100 mil transfer to Barcelona. Pep led Manchester City to second in 17/18, and was sacked the next season after finishing 4th. He was replaced by Carlo Ancelotti, who led them to an even worse 6th. They are currently managed by Zinedine Zidane, after he was sacked in 2022 by Liverpool inside of a year of his hiring, with them in an impressive 14th. Liverpool's best result was in 18/19, finishing 3rd, but somehow 6 years later they still have Salah, Firmino and Coutinho on their books, with Sane having only left after the disastrous Zidane season. Liverpool might have been trash that season, but Arsenal got good again, Wenger finally wining the title again, and immediately loving off to Bayern where he was sacked after 282 days, with them in 4th. Wenger's season might have been bad at Bayern, but he's not the only bad manager they've had, as 2 years earlier Zidane had managed them to an equally disappointing 4th place finish. Swansea won the FA Cup in 2018 while getting relegated, something West Brom failed to live up to in 2024, losing the final to Man Utd while still getting relegated. Chinese teams are still buying adequate players for big money, with Serge Aurier, Kevin Wimmer and Marko Arnautovic all moving there from the Premier League, along with countless other middling talents from top flight clubs. I've managed West Ham this entire time, where Mark Noble finally captained the team to a league title in 22/23, retiring at the end of that season. Our best player is Thembile Slawula, a South African born Portuguese international regen who is already loved by the club on the level of Bobby Moore, having scored the winner in that title winning season, the goal to win the 2022 FA Cup, and the 2024 Champions League, and having averaged at least a goal every other game since he was 18. On the international scene, Brazil won the 2018 World Cup over Spain, while the 2022 World Cup was moved to Australia, and Croatia was led to victory over Belgium by Ismet Fejzic, a distinctly championship level striker I'd farmed out on loan to Ligue 2. England scored the most goals, had the player with the most assists (Andre Green), had a player win the golden ball (Reece Oxford), kept the most clean sheets in 2022 (Jordan Pickford), but got annihilated by Spain in the third place match after having lost the semi final on penalties. The Ballon d'or was won by Messi in 2018, followed by Mbappe, Lemar, Ronald, Mbappe again and is currently held by Moise Kean. The most expensive transfer of all time is still Mbappe to PSG for $271 mil AUD, and since then the biggest is Paulo Dybala from Juve to Man City in Jan 2020 for 218 mil. They also bought Kai Havertz from Leverkusen that January for 141 mil, and they've since won a grand total of 0 club trophies between them.
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United are like that mega unkillable boss from the FF online game in FM, their team just seems to be perfectly tailored to dominate for years into the game. I also find Pep gets sacked from City incredibly early every time I start new careers
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eleven extra elephants posted:United are like that mega unkillable boss from the FF online game in FM, their team just seems to be perfectly tailored to dominate for years into the game. I also find Pep gets sacked from City incredibly early every time I start new careers I'm in 2026 and they've usually been my challengers, but the team is getting old and their finances fluctuate wildly from being broke for half the season then getting the PL/CL money. The wage bill is huge, too. They're a couple of seasons of missing out on the CL (which looks likely this year) and they could be in financial trouble. It'll be interesting to see if there's a breaking point.
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eleven extra elephants posted:United are like that mega unkillable boss from the FF online game in FM, their team just seems to be perfectly tailored to dominate for years into the game. I also find Pep gets sacked from City incredibly early every time I start new careers 
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PSG just spend 114 million pounds on Hector Bellerin in...2020, I think? In other words game is dead on spot balls on. Also Italy has gotten absolutely loaded with crazy young talent, and Belgium has apparently become the world's leading producer of elite footballers.
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Mickolution posted:I'm in 2026 and they've usually been my challengers, but the team is getting old and their finances fluctuate wildly from being broke for half the season then getting the PL/CL money. The wage bill is huge, too. I've seen a screenshot where United got relegated in the second season, if it's legit i'm curious what went so wrong with the AI manager. I'm curious to try one of those databases where they start like 200 years in the future, anybody tried one?
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eleven extra elephants posted:I've seen a screenshot where United got relegated in the second season, if it's legit i'm curious what went so wrong with the AI manager. Messi's great great grandchild plays Centerback for Real.
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eleven extra elephants posted:I've seen a screenshot where United got relegated in the second season, if it's legit i'm curious what went so wrong with the AI manager. Wenger is still managing Arsenal.
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The French Cup 10th Round: only one non-league team left in the competition and, oh look, that's who PSG will be playing. I really hate PSG when I'm managing in France.
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kingturnip posted:The French Cup 10th Round: only one non-league team left in the competition and, oh look, that's who PSG will be playing. my latest season with Marseille had me playing PSG three times in the last five games of the season - somehow both of my league games with them had been continually rescheduled to the end of the year and I had a Cup final with them. One year I played them in the Champions League, too.
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