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PhazonLink posted:My $0.02 on breakfast chat: Why no eggs in a basket using the bacon grease? Because that's all the ingredients for a perfect sandwich, leave the cookie cutters out of it. But I'm not sure steel/gunpowder has a flavor affinity with a chicken's egg. I could be wrong!
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Kale posted:Seriously though pitch black and white ways of looking at the world based on things like chosen profession don't really hold up as any particular Voight-Kampff sort of test. I second this.
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Kale posted:Wow who knew Karl Marx was in such great shape. He was always in great shape. His strength comes from the people
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Kale posted:Oh edgy. The guy that was shot by his own son in Detroit this week was a career cop. Guess he deserved it then cause he's not a real person anyway. There Bias Two posted:I second this. The police are actively a tool and force for oppression. They are not actually obligated to protect and serve anyone. It sucks a life was lost but the less police in our current justice system, the better. In summation: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c5fts7bj-so
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VitalSigns posted:This is a lie, the neoliberal turn predated the loss of union support, but again I recognize it's an article of faith because the only way to justify killing the poor is by projecting immorality onto them to make it ok. quote:Ironically, as chairman of the Banking Committee, Patman had been the first Democrat to investigate the Watergate scandal. But he was vulnerable to the new crowd he had helped usher in. He was old; they were young. He had supported segregation in the past... Sure, no overlap here
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Deteriorata posted:Turns out he was absolutely right. Most unions were racist as hell and abandoned the Democratic party over its embrace of civil rights. When the federal government started making noises about integrating unions, they jumped to the Republicans. I love made up history. Southern democrats were the first ones to pass right to work laws because unions were integrating.
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VitalSigns posted:This is a lie, the neoliberal turn predated the loss of union support, but again I recognize it's an article of faith because the only way to justify killing the poor is by projecting immorality onto them to make it ok. Imagine trying to explain why actually racism had nothing to do with fractured party/union relationships... By citing an article whose peg is a congressman who argued vehemently and viciously against integration as a signatory to the Southern Manifesto. Here's a thought! If you believe that the Supreme Court mandating an equitable education for black youth is "a clear abuse of power", contrary to the constitution, and that we need to protect shitweasels like BULL loving CONNOR from the Federal Government.... you should get the gently caress out of the party. You should certainly get the gently caress out of leadership. But no, gently caress those watergate babies! Can't they see? Sure, Patman was an immensely but he was populist (a way that was TOTALLY disconnected from his racism) and that's what counts. gently caress Patman, gently caress Stoller, and gently caress you for linking this pro-segration bullshit.
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So do we think Trump will rage-tweet the Oscars tonight? I imagine at least a few people are gonna get in digs at him during their acceptance speeches
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Young Freud posted:That thought basically ignores that T'Challa has a learning experience from Killmonger. Yes, we're talking about the right wing here. Of course they ignore a learning experience that shatters their preconceived beliefs. haveblue posted:There's a throwaway line about this one of the tie-in comics, so it really is MCU canon that Shuri doesn't think much of Stark. Maybe it's just me, but Shuri looks (much) older than T'Challa in that top panel. empty whippet box posted:get a gun in this man's hands pronto, he's obviously ready to go confront anything that threatens these precious children. "Gard expressed shock at the accusations, telling the South Florida Sun-Sentinel he followed protocol that requires to keep doors locked during an active shooter drill or real emergency. He said six students followed him back into the room." IDK how this guy's considered a hero when his actions were literally "I heard gunshots and locked the door (like other teachers did) and refused to open it even when students were asking for shelter." That he was giving a phone interview to the media while still on lockdown is loving vile. Gonna be real fun seeing the GOP begrudgingly back Ted "burn all the bridges" Cruz to try and keep their majority in November. Pakled posted:If Texas Republicans vote at typical midterm turnout levels while Texas Democrats vote at Presidential election levels, it's going to be a slaughter. Cornyn got 2.8 million votes in 2014 while Hillary got 3.8 million votes in Texas in 2016. If Democrats nationwide turn out this year in numbers anywhere close to 2016 it's going to be fun watching the GOP lose both chambers of Congress. The Glumslinger posted:Also, hey guess what state is about to join WV on strike? Gotta love states making it loving illegal to go on strike, and it not being seen as a massively Unconstitutional law. Hope OK's teachers strike statewide while daring the police to arrest them. thegalagakid posted:He was always in great shape. His strength comes from the people Karl Marx created the Spirit Bomb and taught it to King Kai.
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I never said organized labor was racist, I was just saying that it has a rocky history of race relations. I don’t think organized labor really existed during the Civil War but what did exist in its protoforms wasn’t exactly welcoming of Emancipation either.
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joepinetree posted:I love made up history. Indeed. Of course, that was back when Southern Dem was akin to the modern GOP but 'Party of Lincoln' was considered a liability in the south... These were the very same Southern Dems that Stoller and VitalSigns bemoan losing power.
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Koalas March posted:The police are actively a tool and force for oppression. They are not actually obligated to protect and serve anyone. It sucks a life was lost but the less police in our current justice system, the better. The less the current model of a cop in our justice system, the better. Burn that poo poo to the ground and rebuild it correctly. e - Which, like the gun control issue, could take at the LEAST a generation, but it's a job worth doing.
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https://twitter.com/curaffairs/status/970382685574221831
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Deteriorata posted:Turns out he was absolutely right. Most unions were racist as hell and abandoned the Democratic party over its embrace of civil rights. When the federal government started making noises about integrating unions, they jumped to the Republicans. Some unions were racist as hell, others marched in solidarity with civil rights (you don't wanna admit that part tho, wonder why). The racism on the part of some people in the labor movement obviously does not justify destroying the lives of all working people in this country, it was just an excuse for what corporate power wanted to do anyway. Johnson was reelected in a landslide with huge union support after passing all of the landmark civil rights legislation, the loss of unions in the coalition came later after Dems switched course and started union-busting.
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Paracaidas posted:Imagine trying to explain why actually racism had nothing to do with fractured party/union relationships... Could you connect for me how being against segregation also means we have to abandon antitrust and start deregulating the crooks in the banking industry tia (E: here let me save you some effort, it doesn't, neolibs just wanted to do that anyway and used racism as an excuse to kill the poor of every color) VitalSigns fucked around with this message at 21:01 on Mar 4, 2018 |
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Koalas March posted:The police are actively a tool and force for oppression. They are not actually obligated to protect and serve anyone. It sucks a life was lost but the less police in our current justice system, the better. Okay, but what does this have to do with calling the man less than human because he was a cop?
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Jealous Cow posted:This thread gets loving weird on the weekend. It's the makeup of posters who tend to come out on weekends I think. That and the fact that Trumps usually golfing so for a brief couple days he's not making GBS threads all over the world and thus the singular and expected focus of the thread. At least people aren't slap fighting each other over absolutely nothing of consequence and just kind of talking about the things they just seem to want to talk about again, which usually amounts to making fun of right wing nut jobs including things like Ben Garrison cartoons and Nazis or posting about food or Japanese pop culture or again whatever it is they'd prefer to talk about. You should have seen it in the wake of the Parkland shooting though, especially the first weekend. To be fair lots to un-package there, but just about impossible to make use of the thread for anything, people seeing boogie-men everywhere even more than usual etc to the point where the topic kind of had to be soft banned from the thread. Not a very good time, so people pointing out weird fixations that the internet really does get on while at the same time kind of getting on ones of it's own albeit with significantly less to totally non-socially destructive ideas is comparatively a breath of fresh air for Trump Thread III weekends. I mean having thought about it a little more and trying to put myself in other peoples shoes, we really don't get many breaks from the guy doing something immensely stupid and offensive to everyone so I can sort of understanding people taking the time they can get away from him to have a little fun on the side. Anyway speaking of Trump he doesn't have enough time to fit all the bullshit he claims he's going to focus on this week into his schedule. He's supposed to tackle gun control policies some more, have some sort of meeting with video game companies and issue tariffs all while everything is collapsing around him in the White House. I wouldn't even be particularly surprised if none of those things happens and he completely launches off on yet another policy random policy tangent based on something he sees on Monday's Fox and Friends segment.
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Why did I hear a crack and now it sounds like everything is screaming at the same pitch as a caught rabbit.
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There Bias Two posted:Okay, but what does this have to do with calling the man less than human because he was a cop? He’s not less than human, he’s just a bad human.
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:Hes not less than human, hes just a bad human. Right, but Kale's post was in response to this: CRIP EATIN BREAD posted:every time i read stuff like that i just lol if @ those that think of police officers as human life
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There Bias Two posted:Okay, but what does this have to do with calling the man less than human because he was a cop? Because oppression is a monstrous act, and by being a tool and willingly enforcing that you are furthering the oppression of others and becoming more monstrous yourself, and therefore losing part of your humanity (empathy).
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quote:For the foreseeable future, nationalism is likely to remain a defining political force. A lot thus depends on the shape it is going to take. Instead of indulging in dreams of a post-national future, liberals should strive to make nationalism as inclusive as possible. Include EVERY American in the xenophobia! quote:So long as nationalism is associated with one particular ethnic or religious group, it will serve to exclude and disadvantage others. The only way to keep the destructive potential of nationalism in check is to fight for a society in which collective identity transcends ethnic and religious boundaries — one in which citizens from all religious or ethnic backgrounds are treated with the same respect as citizens from the majority group. The phrasing there.
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Well the new McCarthyism is a good start
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Koalas March posted:Because oppression is a monstrous act, and by being a tool and willingly enforcing that you are furthering the oppression of others. and becoming more monstrous yourself, therefore losing part of your humanity (empathy). I don't see empathy as going hand in hand with being human necessarily. It's certainly an important feature that everyone should have (and most do), but I don't see the need for dehumanization just because someone hates something (even justifiably). I think it's important to own up to the ugly aspects of our nature just as much as the good stuff.
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Koalas March posted:Young Karl Marx was kinda a qt drat. he isn't bad. i have assume you have seen young stalin? fucker was a monster but drat, he looks like the bad boy from one of those "young adult novels with the girls lead the revolution against the vague municipality but with twist"
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Can anyone help me track down a post from this thread which cited Lentin and Titley's "The Crises of Multiculturalism"? It's not turning up when I search by title for whatever reason, but I want to save it as a really nice discussion of the intersectional and cultural sources of race.
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There Bias Two posted:I don't see empathy as going hand in hand with being human necessarily. It's certainly an important feature that everyone should have (and most do), but I don't see the need for dehumanization just because someone hates something (even justifiably). I think it's important to own up to the ugly aspects of our nature just as much as the good stuff. We aren't talking about hating something/someone or even just every day racism. We're talking about literal oppression and modern day lynching and slavery. That's what they're a part of. That's what they signed up for. edit: that's what their union furiously protects.
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"COME ON, LIBERALS. LETS MAKE A NATIONAL SOCIALIST PARTY. "
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How The Whigs Can Reclaim Know Nothingism
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KickerOfMice posted:Include EVERY American in the xenophobia! lol no it won't. nationalism needs a opposing other to an exist(either exterior or interior) its just how it exists.
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Dapper_Swindler posted:drat. he isn't bad. i have assume you have seen young stalin? I really hate myself for being insanely attracted to young Stalin.
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Shocking results from today’s Italian Elections
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VitalSigns posted:Could you connect for me how being against segregation also means we have to abandon antitrust and start deregulating the crooks in the banking industry tia I'm sure, if you try very hard, you can manage to argue in favor of antitrust and banking regulations without deifying segregationist pieces of poo poo and citing articles that minimize the awfulness of it. For instance: I think that we need to be much more heavy handed as it comes to minimizing the influence of the financial sector in society, politics, and the economy. I also believe that Wright Patman, in addition to having some positive populist opinions, was a racist piece of poo poo and Dems should be horrified that he clung to power and leadership into the goddamn 70s. I believe that anybody who defends or glosses over Patman's racism to pretend that he was forced out because of the dread neoliberalism is clearly demonstrating that they're willing to trade away civil rights in favor of progressive economic policy. I also believe that one can defend unions against at-times unfair accusations of racism and discrimination without praising segregationists.
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Dapper_Swindler posted:lol no it won't. nationalism needs a opposing other to an exist(either exterior or interior) its just how it exists. Yeah the threat to this dumbass idea being the rest of the planet, apparently.
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If we're talking about liberals/leftists "reclaiming" anything conservatives do, they could absolutely lay claim to being "pro-family." Maternity leave, expanded welfare benefits, family reunification, hell, you'd think it wouldn't be hard to spin climate change as a "for the children" issue.
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Gyges posted:Total visits in January: I always love it when somebody tries to make this grandiose claim to continue the desperate pitched battle against fascism narrative and somebody comes out with some hard numbers to show how really what some people try to portray is just not at all equivocal to the reality. I don't know where people get some of their ideas about the way the world is, but aside from Fox News there's a world of difference between say CNN and the RWM's viewership counts. Anyway sorry I just love it when the thread pushes back on the stuff that just clearly conflicts with reality. Narratives and counter-narratives aren't what are going to save the United States so much as continuing to push for a return to a commonly agreed upon set of reality based facts, much like Obama and Biden have argued for in recent interviews as critically necessary for a healthy functioning Democracy.
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Pakled posted:If we're talking about liberals/leftists "reclaiming" anything conservatives do, they could absolutely lay claim to being "pro-family." Maternity leave, expanded welfare benefits, family family reunification, hell, you'd think it wouldn't be hard to spin climate change as a "for the children" issue. This is a great idea and I've been saying it for awhile.
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BardoTheConsumer posted:I'm just not sure about that. I mean, rocket has training in and works with advanced alien technology. Saying that he's smarter than stark because he has knowledge of higher tech that is freely available to him is a little like saying I'm smarter than Einstein because I can use and perform minor repairs on a cell phone. People often confuse knowledge with smarts, comic book writers included.
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https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/melania-trump-extraordinary-immigrant-green-card_us_5a98a3dee4b0479c0250dc76 Melania got an "extraordinary immigrant" green card, aka an "Einstein Visa" for modeling.
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