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I guess it's more of a crime thriller than an action movie - sort of a west coast French Connection to some extent.
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Syncopated posted:To live and die in LA is way underrated when it comes to 80's action movies and I'm not sure why. Too slow maybe? Weak characters? I love it though. IMO it's right on the verge of a cultural rediscovery, kinda like what's happened with Miami Vice and Sorcerer.
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I haven't seen Sorcerer but I've heard it's really good. If nothing else, I'd hazard that it probably deserves to be known for something other than being "the movie that went up against Star Wars in 1977 and lost". Edit: Tying them both together, apparently Mann thought about getting Friedkin to play Hannibal Lecter in Manhunter. 
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I’ve been meaning to watch To Live And Die In LA, but it doesn’t seem to be streaming anywhere. I guess I could rent it for a few bucks. I’ve liked the few Friedkin films I’ve seen, especially Sorcerer, but I’ve also turned into a big Willem Dafoe fan over the years. I’ve always liked him but never really thought of myself as a fan in particular. But looking back at all the stuff he’s done, I can’t actually think of a single one off the top of my head where he gave a bad or even a mediocre performance. Well, maybe Manderlay but he was only in that for a couple minutes and that movie kind of sucked anyway.
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Mar 3, 2018 19:54
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Wheat Loaf posted:I haven't seen Sorcerer but I've heard it's really good. If nothing else, I'd hazard that it probably deserves to be known for something other than being "the movie that went up against Star Wars in 1977 and lost". The recent Sorcerer blu-ray is a pro-get, by the way. Human Tornada posted:IMO it's right on the verge of a cultural rediscovery, kinda like what's happened with Miami Vice and Sorcerer. It's gotten a Shout Factory release recently in the US, and an Arrow Video release in the UK, so I suspect it already has a fanbase. https://www.amazon.com/To-Live-and-...m=ATVPDKIKX0DER https://www.amazon.co.uk/To-Live-an...=A3P5ROKL5A1OLE
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Dr. S.O. Feelgood posted:I’ve been meaning to watch To Live And Die In LA, but it doesn’t seem to be streaming anywhere. I guess I could rent it for a few bucks. I’ve liked the few Friedkin films I’ve seen, especially Sorcerer, but I’ve also turned into a big Willem Dafoe fan over the years. I’ve always liked him but never really thought of myself as a fan in particular. But looking back at all the stuff he’s done, I can’t actually think of a single one off the top of my head where he gave a bad or even a mediocre performance. Well, maybe Manderlay but he was only in that for a couple minutes and that movie kind of sucked anyway. You really should watch it. It stands out for me with one of the best car chases filmed and that loving jaw-dropping shock close to the end. (I don't even want to put it in a spoiler tag it's such a great moment in film)
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Mar 3, 2018 23:32
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Proteus Jones posted:You really should watch it. It stands out for me with one of the best car chases filmed and that loving jaw-dropping shock close to the end. Yeah, it took a second for it to register when I saw it, like "wait, hang on. What?"
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Mar 3, 2018 23:39
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Anybody ready for more Cage? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QSxewWTynZE
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Mar 3, 2018 23:51
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Jesus, how much money does he owe?
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Mar 4, 2018 00:02
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That looks interesting, though?
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Mar 4, 2018 00:34
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Wheat Loaf posted:I haven't seen Sorcerer but I've heard it's really good. If nothing else, I'd hazard that it probably deserves to be known for something other than being "the movie that went up against Star Wars in 1977 and lost". Sorcerer is the movie that went up against Star Wars and should have won. It's as tense as you'd expect a movie about driving a truck laden with nitroglycerine across rough country to be.
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Jedit posted:Sorcerer is the movie that went up against Star Wars and should have won. It's as tense as you'd expect a movie about driving a truck laden with nitroglycerine across rough country to be. That must have been a kind of "dawning of a new era" thing; the blockbusters coming in and ushering out the director-driven New Hollywood stuff (disclaimer: I am well aware that Spielberg and Lucas were New Hollywood era guys).
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The MSJ posted:Anybody ready for more Cage? Lmao this trailer doesn’t mention that this is a “movie series” being made for the Oculus Rift https://www.oculus.com/experiences/rift/1268074176626168/
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The MSJ posted:Anybody ready for more Cage? GonSmithe posted:Lmao this trailer doesn’t mention that this is a “movie series” being made for the Oculus Rift  Hm, future of cinema huh? I should google that!  Oh okay.
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Mar 4, 2018 01:29
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The idea of using VR to sit in a theater and watch something in 2D but on what you think is a bigger screen is one of the dumbest ideas in history
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Dillbag posted:The idea of using VR to sit in a theater and watch something in 2D but on what you think is a bigger screen is one of the dumbest ideas in history I have a PSVR and actually use it for watching movies a lot. You can lay on your back and it projects it onto a field the size of a movie screen. Now don’t get me wrong, I’m not saying I’d watch a movie made for VR (that sounds awful), and I’m not saying to get a VR machine just for using it to watch movies, but it is pretty cool if you can deal with having the headset on for 2 hours.
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Mar 4, 2018 01:37
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I guess that kind of explains why it looked like it had the Soap Opera Effect going.
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GonSmithe posted:I have a PSVR and actually use it for watching movies a lot. You can lay on your back and it projects it onto a field the size of a movie screen. VR is also fantastic for 3D movies.
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Say what you will, but the trailer for Black Rain feels like a trailer for three movies https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=95-bc1DZovg
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Taintrunner posted:Say what you will, but the trailer for Black Rain feels like a trailer for three movies One of my favourite movies, at least until the point in the film where Ridley ran out of money and had to film the climactic shootout in a California vineyard with recognizable TV stuntman like Al Leong and professor Toru Tanaka. Don't get me wrong, I love me some Leong and Tanaka, but the whole ending is really jarring and out of place. It's a shame Yusaku Matsuda died soon after the film was completed. He was badass.
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Funny you say that as I'm watching it for the first time and the shot of them landing in Tokyo feels exactly like a Blade Runner vista in visual texture. What a weird feeling. The entire movie is so loving bizarre and over the top. I feel like the early dialogue is incredibly dubbed by fake accents.
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Taintrunner posted:Funny you say that as I'm watching it for the first time and the shot of them landing in Tokyo feels exactly like a Blade Runner vista in visual texture. What a weird feeling. The entire movie is so loving bizarre and over the top. I feel like the early dialogue is incredibly dubbed by fake accents. Sorry to spoil the ending lol. I've always thought a big reason Ridley made the movie in the first place was because he visited Japan and realized he could now reshoot Blade Runner without having to build any sets.
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Wheat Loaf posted:That must have been a kind of "dawning of a new era" thing; the blockbusters coming in and ushering out the director-driven New Hollywood stuff (disclaimer: I am well aware that Spielberg and Lucas were New Hollywood era guys). That's exactly what it was. Star Wars was the bellwether moment where audiences sort of abandoned experimental filmmaking en masse and fully embraced hyper-commodified PG-13 all-audiences poo poo. Taintrunner posted:Say what you will, but the trailer for Black Rain feels like a trailer for three movies Black Rain is cool. I miss old Ridley.
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Dillbag posted:The idea of using VR to sit in a theater and watch something in 2D but on what you think is a bigger screen is one of the dumbest ideas in history Welcome to our sad loving future. 
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honestly Hardcore Henry would actually have been really, really sick if it were a 360-degree VR experience and not a theatrical movie
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It was such a great theatrical experience. You couldn’t escape it’s insanity.
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I have no idea where this movie is going: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Ec7JVwz9Dw This is a very timely movie: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uHRO91qbOCI
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GrandpaPants posted:I have no idea where this movie is going: There's no way this wasn't made as two separate movies?
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LORD OF BOOTY posted:honestly Hardcore Henry would actually have been really, really sick if it were a 360-degree VR experience and not a theatrical movie It would have been unwatchable.
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HUNDU THE BEAST GOD posted:It would have been unwatchable. how do you figure? if anything, I figure it would be visually easier to follow by a pretty solid margin, and there's a couple bits that would look loving wild in a VR headset with separate eye images (eye-stalk-decapitation for example)
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Being able to free yourself from Henry's perspective would seem to completely dismantle the gimmick of the movie.
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Every movie is theoretically a 360-degree VR experience. I can choose to stare down into my bag of popcorn instead of focusing on what the director is trying to show me. With SmartPlay® technology I can even leave the theatre and the movie will know to continue rolling for the enjoyment of the rest of the crowd.
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Sir Kodiak posted:Being able to free yourself from Henry's perspective would seem to completely dismantle the gimmick of the movie. i mean, wouldn't a VR version of it be kind of the opposite situation? like, I've tried VR and it gets a little nuts with regards to immersion. Lobok posted:Every movie is theoretically a 360-degree VR experience. I can choose to stare down into my bag of popcorn instead of focusing on what the director is trying to show me. With SmartPlay® technology I can even leave the theatre and the movie will know to continue rolling for the enjoyment of the rest of the crowd. i am well aware that my idea would be ridiculous for 99.95% of movies. i suggested it for Hardcore Henry in particular because the whole gimmick of the movie is that it's entirely done from a cyborg's first-person POV, and turning that into VR would make that gimmick even stronger since you'd be literally seeing the movie through the protagonist's eyes instead of watching his POV on a screen. i thought the movie was a bit rear end as a flat movie, but it seems practically tailor-made to be insanely badass in this format.
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LORD OF BOOTY posted:i suggested it for Hardcore Henry in particular because the whole gimmick of the movie is that it's entirely done from a cyborg's first-person POV, and turning that into VR would make that gimmick even stronger since you'd be literally seeing the movie through the protagonist's eyes instead of watching his POV on a screen. i thought the movie was a bit rear end as a flat movie, but it seems practically tailor-made to be insanely badass in this format. If you're locked into the viewpoint from the protagonist's eyes then it's not "360-degree VR." That term specifically applies to experiences where you can rotate your head to look around in any direction. If what you mean is just pumping video into both eyes, simulating Henry's direct experiences,.. it might be a bit much, but I'd give it a shot. edit: I'm not trying to be pedantic, just contextualizing my previous statements based on what I thought you were saying. Sir Kodiak fucked around with this message at 20:42 on Mar 5, 2018 |
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LORD OF BOOTY posted:i mean, wouldn't a VR version of it be kind of the opposite situation? like, I've tried VR and it gets a little nuts with regards to immersion. I'm just kidding around but I'm assuming everyone else who responded to you thought, like me, you meant the viewer would be in a VR world for the viewer to look or move around in. You're saying the view would be locked. How would that actually work in practice? If the character looks around but the viewer knows their head hasn't moved does the viewer just start barfing?
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Dunno how many of you own headsets but yeah, Hardcore Henry would totally be barf-central, I don't think any human brain could cope with all that perceived movement while sitting still. VR movies (that aren't just 360 video) only currently work if filmed from a fixed stationary position (Miyubi) or machinima generated in a game engine that give you the ability to freely explore (the Invisible Hours).
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Trying to film something like Hardcore Henry in 360 would be a total nightmare.
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Wheat Loaf posted:I haven't seen Sorcerer but I've heard it's really good. If nothing else, I'd hazard that it probably deserves to be known for something other than being "the movie that went up against Star Wars in 1977 and lost". Watch Killer Joe, the best movie put out that year.
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Lobok posted:I'm just kidding around but I'm assuming everyone else who responded to you thought, like me, you meant the viewer would be in a VR world for the viewer to look or move around in. You're saying the view would be locked. it's kind of hard to explain, but if you've seen any 360-degree VR videos you already have a basic idea. here's one they did to promote Alien: Covenant that should basically get across what I'm thinking of here: (e: warning, this is pretty gory and kind of disturbing even flat, and I imagine it would gently caress you up bad in VR so proceed with caution if you're rolling with a headset) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cKw1_l3htvA the position of the camera in the world is locked to the neomorph's "eyes", but you can rotate the camera around (either by looking around with a headset or clicking and dragging with the mouse on flat youtube) to look around from that position. it's not really full VR the way a VR game is, but it's probably the most workable way to do a VR movie, and what I was thinking of when I suggested what I did. HUNDU THE BEAST GOD posted:Trying to film something like Hardcore Henry in 360 would be a total nightmare. yeah, this is the real thing that would stop it: not even Ilya Naishuller is that crazy of a motherfucker, from what I gather WeedlordGoku69 fucked around with this message at 22:14 on Mar 5, 2018 |
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