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Hug in a Can
Aug 1, 2010

NICE FLAMINGO
kind heart
fierce mind
brave spirit

:h: be good and try hard! :h:

The Berzerker posted:

this is excellent and I laughed when I heard the FFVI Kefka laugh insert

kefka was absolutely doing drag:



that mug is beat

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big dyke energy
Jul 29, 2006

Football? Yaaaay
Wanna see that on the main stage.

esperterra
Mar 24, 2010

SHINee's back




Kefka is da best

Hug in a Can
Aug 1, 2010

NICE FLAMINGO
kind heart
fierce mind
brave spirit

:h: be good and try hard! :h:

esperterra posted:

Kefka is da best

Every time I see your username, I remember one of my earliest screen names: FF3Celes :allears:

Magikarpal Tunnel posted:

Wanna see that on the main stage.

I swear, I think that this is in fashion now! And those black/white knee high boots? Please. It's obvious how this would turn out.

Tendai
Mar 16, 2007

"When the eagles are silent, the parrots begin to jabber."

Grimey Drawer
Finally watching episode 2 of Drag Race Thailand

drat Natalia Pliacam doesn't go subtle with her opinions of others :stare:

Dearis for president

edit 2: They don't gently caress around with challenges

Tendai fucked around with this message at 04:39 on Mar 4, 2018

Nihonniboku
Aug 11, 2004

YOU CAN FLY!!!

Tendai posted:

drat Natalia Pliacam doesn't go subtle with her opinions of others :stare:

I had some friends over tonight, and I was wondering what the deal with Natalia is. As an American, we would find it really distasteful to brag about being rich, and hating on someone for being poor like she was doing. I was wondering if that was something culturally as a Chinese-Thai.

Tendai posted:

Dearis for president

Dearis in boy drag is maybe the hottest? Although nowhere near as hot as Panpan in boy drag. Dear god is Panpan attractive.

QuickbreathFinisher
Sep 28, 2008

by reading this post you have agreed to form a gay socialist micronation.
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Nihonniboku posted:

I had some friends over tonight, and I was wondering what the deal with Natalia is. As an American, we would find it really distasteful to brag about being rich, and hating on someone for being poor like she was doing. I was wondering if that was something culturally as a Chinese-Thai.


Dearis in boy drag is maybe the hottest? Although nowhere near as hot as Panpan in boy drag. Dear god is Panpan attractive.

Looking at panpan is really difficult for me. He's so loving attractive. Dearis is also cute. I also think B Ella is cute out of drag. They're all real good.

Ubiquitous_
Nov 20, 2013

by Reene
Dunno if Trixie's Billboard interview was mentioned here yet. From her words, Ben got the white out from Thorgy (by randomly asking for it). She believes Ben's idea to leave was kept from Ru.

esperterra
Mar 24, 2010

SHINee's back




Ubiquitous_ posted:

Dunno if Trixie's Billboard interview was mentioned here yet. From her words, Ben got the white out from Thorgy (by randomly asking for it). She believes Ben's idea to leave was kept from Ru.

I like to think the lipsticks in All Stars are kept from Ru and the other judges b/c I like to think he still cares enough and is invested enough in the show and watching these girls to want to be surprised, too. But I still wouldn't doubt at all that Ru knows before the lip sync, maybe Michelle but probably not, and none of the other judges.

e:

Hug in a Can posted:

Every time I see your username, I remember one of my earliest screen names: FF3Celes :allears:

Still the best Final Fantasy protag imho so A+ choice

The Berzerker
Feb 24, 2006

treat me like a dog


I went back and have been rewatching Season 6 this weekend, and honestly the top five still feels so hosed up. I love Adore and she's super charming but like, she did not deserve to be in the top three at all, she was bad and "learning" all season long which they kept reading Trinity for but kept finding Adore's "aw shucks I don't know how to shape my body or make a garment" charming? Super dumb. Adore/Darienne should have been 4th/5th (or flipped) with Ben in the top three. I was mad about it then, and I'm mad about it now. Ben was solid and consistent all season, multiple wins... it is nonsense. Shenanigans.

e: Darienne has a bit of AS3 Milk syndrome in this season, consistently outraged at his position, frequently saying "I should have been in the top 3 not the bottom" type of poo poo

The Berzerker fucked around with this message at 19:39 on Mar 4, 2018

beepsandboops
Jan 28, 2014

The Berzerker posted:

I went back and have been rewatching Season 6 this weekend, and honestly the top five still feels so hosed up. I love Adore and she's super charming but like, she did not deserve to be in the top three at all, she was bad and "learning" all season long which they kept reading Trinity for but kept finding Adore's "aw shucks I don't know how to shape my body or make a garment" charming? Super dumb. Adore/Darienne should have been 4th/5th (or flipped) with Ben in the top three. I was mad about it then, and I'm mad about it now. Ben was solid and consistent all season, multiple wins... it is nonsense. Shenanigans.

e: Darienne has a bit of AS3 Milk syndrome in this season, consistently outraged at his position, frequently saying "I should have been in the top 3 not the bottom" type of poo poo
Completely agreed. Adore is great but I think she's a great example of how charisma and charm are disproportionately weighted in Drag Race.

It's the same reason that Shangela's been on notice for the better part of a decade to learn how to make a garment, can still only put together that train wreck of a disco outfit, but can coast by on Game of Thrones talk and "halleloo!"

The Berzerker
Feb 24, 2006

treat me like a dog


I like that the last couple of years we've had season --> all stars --> season --> all stars... how long could they keep that up, do you think?

If I was making a cast for All Stars 4, not bringing on any previous winners or people who had been on previous All Stars seasons, I think this is the best I could do assuming ten cast members like AS3:

Trinity K Bonet
Ivy Winters
Derrick Barry
Darienne Lake
Pearl
Naomi Smalls
Kim Chi
... Peppermint, Trinity, Shea? I mean Willam but he'd never do it?

anyway, just brain dumping

esperterra
Mar 24, 2010

SHINee's back




I could see the next All Stars mining a lot from season 9, yeah. And hopefully bringing Kim back.

I really don't know who else unless they start bringing back a bunch of early-out girls. I've been enjoying how fast AS2 to AS3 was but I hope we get a bit of a break between 3 and 4, unless season 10 ends up having a bunch of queens I want to see more of. Then I could see a heavy 9/10 season with a few girls from earlier.

Also how could you forget Ongina ffs, who shall win whichever All Stars she appears on.

twistedbutterfly
Jan 20, 2007
I kind of like the idea of the first out queens coming back. Maybe half of them are top fours and the other half are first outs from previous seasons.

Tops vs bottoms.

Pellisworth
Jun 20, 2005

twistedbutterfly posted:

I kind of like the idea of the first out queens coming back. Maybe half of them are top fours and the other half are first outs from previous seasons.

Tops vs bottoms.

I can't wait for Jaymes Mansfield in AS4

QuickbreathFinisher
Sep 28, 2008

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Pellisworth posted:

I can't wait for Jaymes Mansfield in AS4

Who hurt you. Bring back Serena.

I think Laganja should get a redemption. I still feel bad about how things shook out on her season.

Pellisworth
Jun 20, 2005

QuickbreathFinisher posted:

Who hurt you. Bring back Serena.

I think Laganja should get a redemption. I still feel bad about how things shook out on her season.

eh, I find Jaymes' drag persona rather *SQUEAK* grating and I don't think it translates very well to TV *SQUEAK*

I agree, Laganja should be in AS4

The Berzerker posted:

I mean Willam but he'd never do it?

I think Willam would probably do it but they're not going to invite him

twistedbutterfly
Jan 20, 2007

Pellisworth posted:

I can't wait for Jaymes Mansfield in AS4

Somebody has to go home first...again lol

The Berzerker
Feb 24, 2006

treat me like a dog


Laganja was actually worse than I remember having watched S6 again this weekend but I still think she should be in AS4.

spite house
Apr 28, 2009

I want All Stars Winners. Bad.

Wungus
Mar 5, 2004

spite house posted:

I want All Stars Winners. Bad.

But the prize is Ru retiring and the winner becoming the new host

spite house
Apr 28, 2009

Whalley posted:

But the prize is Ru retiring and the winner becoming the new host
Being as it'd almost certainly be Bianca, I am okay with this.

esperterra
Mar 24, 2010

SHINee's back




Alaska's Thunderfuck 5000's Drag Race please

e: honestly I think Alaska would be the best fit to take over, if it ever comes to that. nobody is as big a drag race fan as she is

e2: also laganja is fierce as gently caress and I would love to see her come back if she knew her nerves could take it this time

esperterra fucked around with this message at 02:38 on Mar 5, 2018

big dyke energy
Jul 29, 2006

Football? Yaaaay
Laganja is an absolutely insane performer, I'd love to see her on all stars. I really want Trinity (both of them) to come back, too.

I've always thought it'd be cool to have a season of first or second out queens. A whole Rudemption season. Of course, that means we might have to accept Magnolia Crawford back.

spite house
Apr 28, 2009

Magikarpal Tunnel posted:

Of course, that means we might have to accept Magnolia Crawford back.
NOT FOR LONG

Ubiquitous_
Nov 20, 2013

by Reene

Magikarpal Tunnel posted:

Laganja is an absolutely insane performer, I'd love to see her on all stars. I really want Trinity (both of them) to come back, too.

I've always thought it'd be cool to have a season of first or second out queens. A whole Rudemption season. Of course, that means we might have to accept Magnolia Crawford back.

Magnolia Crawford has retired from drag.

Propaganda Machine
Jan 2, 2005

Truthiness!
I need to see more Manila and Latrice without the partner team bull.

esperterra
Mar 24, 2010

SHINee's back




Manila deserves a motherfucking crown already.

big dyke energy
Jul 29, 2006

Football? Yaaaay

Ubiquitous_ posted:

Magnolia Crawford has retired from drag.

I did not know that, but I am not surprised.

big black turnout
Jan 13, 2009



Fallen Rib
Just bring back all of the cast of seasons 1&2 that aren't on this season for the next all stars imo

esperterra
Mar 24, 2010

SHINee's back




big black turnout posted:

Just bring back all of the cast of seasons 1&2 that aren't on this season for the next all stars imo

:agreed:

Aladdin
Feb 16, 2011
Thoughts on Ru's recent comments?

esperterra
Mar 24, 2010

SHINee's back




Which ones?

Trig Discipline
Jun 3, 2008

Please leave the room if you think this might offend you.
Grimey Drawer

esperterra posted:

Which ones?

I'm guessing this:

https://www.pinknews.co.uk/2018/03/04/rupaul-would-probably-not-let-a-post-transition-contestant-on-drag-race/

My lukewarm take on it is that I can absolutely understand why Ru said that in terms of preserving the competition, but that people are not going to react to it within that context and will see it as an attack on their, or others', identities. People will yell, some other people might apologize, and in the end everything will be exactly as it was except that we'll all hate each other just a little more.

Trig Discipline fucked around with this message at 09:43 on Mar 5, 2018

esperterra
Mar 24, 2010

SHINee's back




I agree w/ Ru tbh in the sense that creating the illusion is a big part of what the type of drag this show involves is creating the illusion, and being judged on the illusion.

I'd be iffy about it if he said they won't let trans women compete at all, but I feel pretty confident that girls who are trans and either still transitioning, or trans and not needing or wanting to transition and have just transitioned socially/etc will still be competing if their audition is good enough (or their social media presence, lbr). We've had many over the years and while yeah, most of them weren't really openly out as transgender when they started they've never not been Ru Girls.

But I can be on board, personally, with trans women who have gotten the whole shebang done not being allowed to compete. I mean it would be kind of cheating, like if they let bio queens compete. The judging process would have to change quite a bit.


e: ^^ also yeah not looking forward to the backlash on something like this, but i always appreciate ru speaking his mind honestly even if it gets him in hot water and he's just a silly old man with weird new age ideas 80% of the time. he's already got a pretty bad reputation w/ a lot of the trans community so i'm sure this won't help, even if it's a resonable thing

Alien Sex Manual
Dec 14, 2010

is not a sandwich

I get where he's coming from but I prefer the idea that drag is drag, regardless of who's wearing it. But then I prefer the Dragula style of drag to the Drag Race style of drag, so I understand why he doesn't want someone who can already pass for a woman having that leg up.

I mention Dragula because the Boulets have already said they'll accept any and all queens, as long as they know their drag.

esperterra
Mar 24, 2010

SHINee's back




Yeah, but again it's just different judging criteria between the shows. I'm all for more shows showcasing diff types of drag, the Boulets are great. But Ru is a glamour queen and Drag Race is primarily a venue for the more 'traditional' type of drag I guess, which is funny considering Ru's roots. But what made her famous was the glamour and glitz therefore

e: the illusion is just such a big part of it no matter the queen's style

esperterra fucked around with this message at 12:56 on Mar 5, 2018

Nihonniboku
Aug 11, 2004

YOU CAN FLY!!!
Honestly, I think it's only a mater of time before they have a cisgender straight woman on the show. Go to /r/rupaulsdragrace and you'll see everyday straight women posting photos of themselves made up drag style.

I think it'll also probably be canceled after they cast a straight woman. But it's only a matter of time.

Trig Discipline
Jun 3, 2008

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Grimey Drawer
And then the stage will be set for my new show, America's Next Power Bottom Model.

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SUPERMAN'S GAL PAL
Feb 21, 2006

Holy Moly! DARKSEID IS!

See, what I got out of RuPaul’s comments was his usual “drag is an illusion.” Trans people aren’t creating an illusion but living their true lives. Now, to me hypothetical trans person can also be a drag performer, but there we have Ru’s somewhat reductive concept of “drag” as an art form (she side-eyed the very idea of bald queens like Jujube a decade ago).

People are getting super-upset and as usual Ru is a problematic fav. :(

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