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isn't the juicero "cold-pressed juice is magic" guy now selling raw water
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dude's determined to overcharge people for the squirts
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Mar 5, 2018 19:39
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Sagebrush posted:i would say it's underengineered. speccing expensive custom cnc-machined parts all over the place is lazy design. their engineer probably went "i could make a device that squeezes bags for like a $40 BOM, but that would take some effort and we're gonna sell this for 400 bucks so gently caress it" they originally cost $700 and $1200 for the "commercial" model that was the exact same but they allowed you to order more juice, because you'd e installing it in your dumb health food restaurant also just use they
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Mar 5, 2018 19:43
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Sagebrush posted:i would say it's underengineered. speccing expensive custom cnc-machined parts all over the place is lazy design. their engineer probably went "i could make a device that squeezes bags for like a $40 BOM, but that would take some effort and we're gonna sell this for 400 bucks so gently caress it" did you watch the boltr breakdown because he goes over a lot of this. they designed it to uniformly squeeze the entire bag in one motion which requires big beefy drive/bearings/interlocks that can withstand hundreds of pounds of pressure when the same work could have been trivially accomplished by a small roller working from one end to the other and much less force. There weren't really any places to cheap out on materials while using the same design because nobody does it that way (for good reason)
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Mar 5, 2018 19:45
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H.P. Hovercraft posted:isn't the juicero "cold-pressed juice is magic" guy now selling raw water yes he is still selling diarrhea
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Mar 5, 2018 19:47
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BangersInMyKnickers posted:did you watch the boltr breakdown because he goes over a lot of this. they designed it to uniformly squeeze the entire bag in one motion which requires big beefy drive/bearings/interlocks that can withstand hundreds of pounds of pressure when the same work could have been trivially accomplished by a small roller working from one end to the other and much less force. There weren't really any places to cheap out on materials while using the same design because nobody does it that way (for good reason) yeah this is what I was talking abou and I was probably thinking of the same video. the device was designed to do far more work than the task should have needed, which is what required it to have so many expensive characteristics
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Mar 5, 2018 19:57
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fishmech posted:which is still absurd, because the actual business model was "pay us $8 or more per lovely juice pack that makes less than a glass". not "buy the machine which we're taking a loss on anyway" equally absurd: taking hundreds of dollars of loss on a machine that applies pressure to bagged fruit
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Mar 5, 2018 20:05
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e: nah
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Mar 5, 2018 20:06
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Dixie Cretin Seaman posted:equally absurd: taking hundreds of dollars of loss on a machine that applies pressure to bagged fruit the russians used a hammer
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Mar 5, 2018 20:14
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https://twitter.com/hypervisible/status/970276540419395584
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Mar 5, 2018 20:18
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Sagebrush posted:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5lutHF5HhVA
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Mar 5, 2018 20:20
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if only someone had posted that on the previous page
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Mar 5, 2018 20:20
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infernal machines posted:if only someone had posted that on the previous page forgive me senpai
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Mar 5, 2018 20:22
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Caganer posted:forgive me senpai don't post here.
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Mar 5, 2018 20:28
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Caganer posted:forgive me senpai the only unforgivable sin is quoting stymie
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Mar 5, 2018 20:29
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h/t sneaking mission https://twitter.com/juliacarriew/status/970741761537540096
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Mar 5, 2018 20:34
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https://twitter.com/WarrenIsDead/status/970663058359095296?s=19
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Mar 5, 2018 20:35
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KOTEX GOD OF BLOOD posted:h/t sneaking mission they probably have a big bank of questions they poll about with the same options and didn't put much thought into them. i got hit with a few poorly worded ones when i used it, though never this bad
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Mar 5, 2018 20:36
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Caganer posted:they probably have a big bank of questions they poll about with the same options and didn't put much thought into them. don't post here.
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Mar 5, 2018 20:37
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Caganer posted:they probably have a big bank of questions they poll about with the same options and didn't put much thought into them. yeah the survey seems to have a lot of variants, none of the questions I got were like that I did get one question along the lines of "which of these shortcomings do you think is most responsible for the poor state of facebook" so I checked Other and wrote in "survey does not allow me to select all of them"
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Mar 5, 2018 20:37
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haveblue posted:yeah the survey seems to have a lot of variants, none of the questions I got were like that yeah, the issue is all of SV is obsessed with quantitative research, to the point they'd rather run 2-3k surveys until they figure out their research question than 1 well worded qualitative questionnaire to drive the design of a multiple choice survey, and 1 larger one to verify the findings. when you're procedural generating a bunch of versions of surveys w/o a human looking at it all sort of weirdness happens but hey, at least you automated it!1!!!!
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Mar 5, 2018 20:44
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Caganer posted:yeah, the issue is all of SV is obsessed with quantitative research, to the point they'd rather run 2-3k surveys until they figure out their research question than 1 well worded qualitative questionnaire to drive the design of a multiple choice survey, and 1 larger one to verify the findings. hi everyone this is maskenfreheit how many people have you tried to doxx over PM today
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Mar 5, 2018 20:45
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Caganer posted:yeah, the issue is all of SV is obsessed with quantitative research, to the point they'd rather run 2-3k surveys until they figure out their research question than 1 well worded qualitative questionnaire to drive the design of a multiple choice survey, and 1 larger one to verify the findings. go away
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Mar 5, 2018 20:45
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Yes, the problem here is poor wording.
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Mar 5, 2018 20:50
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graph posted:hi everyone this is maskenfreheit
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Mar 5, 2018 20:52
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FMguru posted:lol i was wondering which lovely rereg he was 
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Mar 5, 2018 20:55
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this is probably the result of a completely separate team being asked to provide the problematic scenarios vs. the team who wrote responses, hell the ages might even be generated by algorithm or they might have gone full machine learning and had the ages, genders and tasks varied over a bunch of values my understanding of their love of testing is that facebook makes "we tested 31 different colors of blue to find the best one" seem sane
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Mar 5, 2018 21:01
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Dixie Cretin Seaman posted:equally absurd: taking hundreds of dollars of loss on a machine that applies pressure to bagged fruit they had to prepulp the fruit to make it work reliably which is why the hand squeezing worked so well
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Mar 5, 2018 21:08
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duz posted:they had to prepulp the fruit to make it work reliably which is why the hand squeezing worked so well yes, prepulped completely unpreserved fruit shipped in packs that are open to the air because anything else would kill the life essence of the fruit, you see its why they initially only shipped to a few pockets of california and later to selected parts of most states, because they couldn't actually guarantee the stuff would arrive unrotted outside those areas
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Mar 5, 2018 21:12
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duz posted:they had to prepulp the fruit to make it work reliably which is why the hand squeezing worked so well yeah I think the original idea was that it would be just cut up fruit but who could have possibly guessed that commercial juicers aren't just 2 plates that smash together??
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Mar 5, 2018 21:14
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also why they wanted the squeezymachine to read RFIDs so that they could stop you from slurping moldjuice
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Mar 5, 2018 21:14
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fishmech posted:its why they initially only shipped to a few pockets of california and later to selected parts of most states, because they couldn't actually guarantee the stuff would arrive unrotted outside those areas also the justification for their qr-code package drm
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Mar 5, 2018 21:15
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qirex posted:yeah I think the original idea was that it would be just cut up fruit but who could have possibly guessed that commercial juicers aren't just 2 plates that smash together?? commercial "cold press juice" things are though. thats the sort of stuff he used at his longtime chain of cold pressed juice outlets that eventually went bankrupt
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Mar 5, 2018 21:15
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H.P. Hovercraft posted:also why they wanted the squeezymachine to read RFIDs so that they could stop you from slurping moldjuice what a yummy slime mold juice reframe it as a diy bootlegging by mail operation
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Mar 5, 2018 21:16
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H.P. Hovercraft posted:slurping moldjuice new product idea: "raw" kombucha
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Mar 5, 2018 21:18
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graph posted:hi everyone this is maskenfreheit According to his email complaint he just sent to me, you just "doxed" him and "encouraged users to harass" him.
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Mar 5, 2018 21:22
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infernal machines posted:also the justification for their qr-code package drm lol that's right it was qr-code not rfid
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Mar 5, 2018 21:22
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isn't maskenfreheit outta kittyjail now lmao
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Mar 5, 2018 21:24
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Lowtax posted:According to his email complaint he just sent to me, you just "doxed" him and "encouraged users to harass" him. NICE!
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gonna have my name legally changed to "president beep" so that i can whip out a bullshit doxxing claim whenever someone posts my username.
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