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The thing with a good deal of the luchadors is WCW was just really stupid and racist. LA Park is an all time great. El Dandy was one of the best wrestler on the planet and a main event player with El Hijo De Santo and Negro Casas in the early 90s. Would you ever know it from WCW? Both of them were treated like jokes.
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No one ever doubted el dandy though
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Mar 5, 2018 05:55
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Hell La Parka was getting over as much as he could just WCW held him down
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oldpainless posted:No one ever doubted el dandy though haha nice. the meme
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Mar 5, 2018 06:01
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Super No Vacancy posted:haha nice. the meme 
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Mar 5, 2018 06:02
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If we're past the point we can make El Dandy jokes why are we even posting anymore
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Mar 5, 2018 06:31
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ah yes, posting the same 10 memes since 1999: truly great joke craftsmanship at work here
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Mar 5, 2018 06:50
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*chris jericho voice* ARMBARRRRRRRRR!!! haha remember that
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Yeah, that was good.
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Feels Villeneuve posted:The Rude Awakening loving kicked rear end I actually agree with you. The original question was written with a very negative slant and I was trying to give him “the answer he was looking for” rather than my opinion. But yeah I dug the rude awakening. It was a childhood bed wrestling thing when you’re 8.
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Of the many many things WCW had and squandered, the cruiserweights in general stand out. They were something that actually made Nitro distinct, and it was a good idea to have one of those matches at or near the opening of the show to have something nice and fast to kick things off and get everyone hyped. But Bischoff just didn't see the point.
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Mar 5, 2018 07:44
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Rude managed to make that garden variety neckbreaker look like he was trying to snap the other guy's head off.
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Mar 5, 2018 07:53
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Super No Vacancy posted:haha nice. the meme Super No Vacancy posted:ah yes, posting the same 10 memes since 1999: truly great joke craftsmanship at work here Super No Vacancy posted:*chris jericho voice* ARMBARRRRRRRRR!!! haha remember that Settle your kettle.
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Mar 5, 2018 07:59
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Who are you to doubt El Dandy memes still being amusing in 2018?
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Mar 5, 2018 08:09
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mean gene would
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meme gene
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Super No Vacancy posted:haha nice. the meme 
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Mar 5, 2018 14:51
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lets start on using this funny new one I'm creating. whenever something typically vince happens in the wrestling ring (or nearby it, at least in the same arena or on the same show) then put this on here  It's like he is the "ref" (decider) and showing his powers a well.
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El Dandy v. Satanico had a hair match that was like considered a top ten all time CMLL match back in 1990 iirc
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Mar 5, 2018 15:13
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Honestly "This is a groin pull the likes of which you've never seen" and "jam up guy" are way funnier parts of that promo
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I'm watching a couple of the past Hall of Fame ceremonies, and with Trish's induction of Lita, I'm really struck by how much she sounds like Alexa Bliss. Her voice is really similar, but beyond that, they also both have a really natural manner of public speaking. Was Trish good on the mic when she was wrestling, or did this skill come about later?
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Remember WCW's core audience. When Master P and his No Limit Soldiers showed up WCW made a strawman country music stable for them to feud with. The audience piled behind the strawmen. The audience piled behind the strawmen and even bought their lovely country music song that was designed to get cheap heat. The audience piled behind the strawmen so hard that they had to scrap the whole NLS thing after like, a month and pay Master P way too much money to do nothing. This is no way an endorsement of WCW's treatment of the Luchadores (Tequila bottle on a pole? Frikkin really?) but there was a definite ceiling to how popular the luchadores could have become. El Dandy may have been one of the best wrestlers in the world at this time, but so what? Kevin Nash was one of the worst. Popularity and wrestling ability had absolutely no correlation in WCW. ChrisBTY fucked around with this message at 19:36 on Mar 5, 2018 |
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the West Texas Rednecks owned, you have to love any group with Curt Hennig and Barry Windham in it
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ChrisBTY posted:Remember WCW's core audience. Rey Mysterio Jr. was tremendously popular, and as time went on Nash became less and less popular. Other guys like Juvi got over when they were actually pushed and even La Parka could get reactions when they let him actually do poo poo. Booker T was consistently over even if he wasn't a main event draw, and guys like Liger and Ultimo Dragon got over too.
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Behold the greatness of La Parka! https://twitter.com/allan_cheapshot/status/952572478282452992
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tbh the idea that WCW fans wouldn't love a group of southern stereotypes involving Windham is hilarious
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Feels Villeneuve posted:tbh the idea that WCW fans wouldn't love a group of southern stereotypes involving Windham is hilarious It legitimately tore apart the actual WCW offices (Which were in Atlanta) for a while.
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Feels Villeneuve posted:tbh the idea that WCW fans wouldn't love a group of southern stereotypes involving Windham is hilarious Also the full name of their signature song was "Rap is Crap (I Hate Rap)" which is kind of perfect even if you don't think rap is crap and you don't hate rap. e: Plus they renamed Virgil to Curly Bill and had him join lol
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Davros1 posted:Behold the greatness of La Parka! This is an extremely pro click
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MassRafTer posted:Rey Mysterio Jr. was tremendously popular, and as time went on Nash became less and less popular. Other guys like Juvi got over when they were actually pushed and even La Parka could get reactions when they let him actually do poo poo. Booker T was consistently over even if he wasn't a main event draw, and guys like Liger and Ultimo Dragon got over too. I wonder if any of those guys would have drawn as WHC though. I mean except Booker, which isn't fair because nothing save maybe Goldberg was going to draw in 2000. Do you think Rey could/should have been world champion in at least 2000? Because I say yes. Probably over Booker tbh. I won't lie. The reason I asked the question about La Parka is because I plan on counter-programing WM 17 with La Parka winning the WCW WHT in my TEW 2016 game and I wanted to get a feel for what he really is as a performer. Alright, shifting focus a little: Does creative direction even matter in professional wrestling anymore? In terms of improving/ruining a company's fortunes that is to say.
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ChrisBTY posted:I wonder if any of those guys would have drawn as WHC though. I mean except Booker, which isn't fair because nothing save maybe Goldberg was going to draw in 2000. When Flair was the president of WCW and was also the champ, he had a match with Rey for the title on a Nitro. The crowd absolutely wanted Rey to win.
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creative direction is paramount in wrestling. its irrelevant in sports entertainment
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For Savage's post WM5 and Macho King runs with Sherri as his manager, what was his relationship with Elizabeth? They didn't divorce until 1992. Were they still traveling together?
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ChrisBTY posted:Remember WCW's core audience. It didn't help that everyone involved in the No Limit Soldiers were terrible on a number of levels. At the time I remember feeling conflicted, I didn't really care for anyone in the West Texas Rednecks, or the group as a whole, but I hated the whole No Limit Soldiers thing. If it had been, say Busta Rhymes and the Flip Mode Squad instead, and they'd gotten some talented indy wrestlers to represent them, it would've been a different story.
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With all the 80s and 90s wrestlers showing up on occasion in the WWE, some having legend contracts, how come The Mountie (Jacques Rougeau) hasn't shown up ? He had a fun, at times comedy heel gimmick. From my tiny amount of research (wikipedia) there isn't beef between him and the WWE, Is there a problem that's not widely known ? Cause otherwise, it seems like a missed opportunity.
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Jacques says he's on the poo poo list with Vince, but I can't find if he's ever said why (or if he knows. It is Vince after all.) Edit: Apparently it's because he's just a massive douche. Nothing fancy, just nobody can stand the guy. Aphrodite fucked around with this message at 00:26 on Mar 6, 2018 |
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Aphrodite posted:Jacques says he's on the poo poo list with Vince, but I can't find if he's ever said why (or if he knows. It is Vince after all.) Kevin Owens/Steen has told many a tale about Jacques, none of them flattering. stab, who posts here and knows both Kevin and Sami, could elaborate better. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8on1G_cnCG8 Here's a story about Jacques being petty and greedy about getting Kevin a tryout He also once sucker-punched Dynamite Kid with a roll of quarters
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El Gallinero Gros posted:
To be fair, this is something he should get a medal for.
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Gaz-L posted:To be fair, this is something he should get a medal for. I don't necessarily disagree but Vince could have still mentally filed him away as a huge pain in the rear end
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The No Limit Soldiers were dead from their very first appearance. Even before the Rednecks showed up the crowd just did not care. And of course add to this the ways they actively booked things wrong- having the Soldiers outnumber the Rednecks, having the Soldiers regularly be the ones initiating violence, etc.
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