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Endless Mike posted:This just sounds like typical white-midwesterner-in-a-big-city fear. I was born in a super lovely part of Chicago and grew up in Gary, IN. I was a minority until the 4th grade. I'm not afraid of jack poo poo but Detroit is loving terrifying.
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CityMidnightJunky posted:Cap was absolutely willing to compromise until Tony told him Wanda was under house arrest. It's obviously a bit more complicated since Wanda is a walking WMD. But it's still segregating someone because of who they are. Steve was around for WW2, he sure as hell knows where THAT poo poo leads in the end. I don't blame him at all for flipping out. Along with Shield being infiltrated with Nazis, you can't argue that his motivations aren't justified and in character. She was put in house arrest because she blew up a city block. Not to mention she was indirectly responsible for Ultron and directly for hulk freaking out. It has little to do with bigotry and everything to do with her actions. And his viewpoint that the avengers should be beyond reproach and supervision was narrowminded and arrogant, not to mention dangerous. Fits his namesake I guess
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Mar 5, 2018 23:48
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She’s also an illegal immigrant!
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Mar 5, 2018 23:51
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McCloud posted:She was put in house arrest because she blew up a city block. I mean but not really.
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Aphrodite posted:That was very much the point of Luke Cage's Harlem. Harlem, and crime in Harlem, has evolved.
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Mar 6, 2018 00:28
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Rhyno posted:I'd rathet walk through the south side of Chicago with John McCain's sandwich board than go through downtown Detroit. Is that the one that says "I'm one ooooooold man!"?
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Mar 6, 2018 00:30
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...no, pretty sure it says the same thing as McClane's.
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Mar 6, 2018 00:35
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"Sandwich board" is a real weird way to refer to Sarah Palin.
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Mar 6, 2018 00:42
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When is the Justice League Detroit movie?
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Mar 6, 2018 00:55
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Lol phone posting is fun.
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Mar 6, 2018 01:34
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Kai Tave posted:I mean but not really. Yeah, crossbones blew up the city block, she just moved the explosion somewhere else where it killed 17 people instead of a few hundred.
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Mar 6, 2018 01:43
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McCloud posted:She was put in house arrest because she blew up a city block. Not to mention she was indirectly responsible for Ultron and directly for hulk freaking out. It has little to do with bigotry and everything to do with her actions. Except she wasn't actually under arrest. If she's done something illegal, then arrest her. But she was being detained without trial, parole, due process or any real legal grounding at all. It's a slippery slope and Cap knows it.
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Mar 6, 2018 01:52
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You must not be American.
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Ironically, the whole thing could have been avoided if Tony had just asked Wanda to wear a blond wig if she ran to the store.
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Rhyno posted:Detroit is loving terrifying. Dude, no it's loving not. Maybe 10 years ago but downtown has practically been sterilized. I moved to midtown to live out my post apocalyptic dreams and now 8 years later I can't afford the rent. Also, stop saying that poo poo, not only is it insulting it's the exact reason why people get robbed....they can smell fear.
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Koalas March posted:I want an Cyborg movie filmed in Detroit. That sounds dope as hell. Could probably use the city itself for an allegory or metaphor about his body or vice versa, if they got a good writer. I was scrolling very fast and I just discovered Xplain the X-Men, so I read that as Cyclops. That would be the best worst thing ever and now I want it.
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He’s not big enough. Captain Marvel is a little boy’s idea of their dad saving the day so he should be beefy.
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Ojjeorago posted:He’s not big enough. Captain Marvel is a little boy’s idea of their dad saving the day so he should be beefy. They should give Shazzam a dad bod, and give him interactions with bad guys in the following vein: CM: Who are you? Antagonist: I am your worst nightmare! CM: Hi, Your Worst Nightmare, I'm Dad! *punch to face*
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WillyTheNewGuy posted:They should give Shazzam a dad bod, and give him interactions with bad guys in the following vein: If that was all this movie was, and they kept Zachary Levi as is, I will be 110% behind this and will abandoned Marvel full fold. Sadly they'll darken his suit in post and add abs.
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"Now remember, Mary, your eyeline should be two feet above his head. Trust me, it'll work out in post? No, my voice didn't just raise there at the end. I'm very confident! Action!"
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Mar 6, 2018 06:34
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This has to be one of the most comics-accurate suits yet, right? I’m absolutely astonished it isn’t dark maroon, capeless, with bronze accents.
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Big Mean Jerk posted:This has to be one of the most comics-accurate suits yet, right? I’m absolutely astonished it isn’t dark maroon, capeless, with bronze accents. Movies have been pretty good about keeping capes on characters. Off the top of my head the only ones that have lost their capes (outside of the X-Men movies) have been people like Gamora and Scarlet Witch who had poo poo costumes to begin with.
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Big Mean Jerk posted:This has to be one of the most comics-accurate suits yet, right? I’m absolutely astonished it isn’t dark maroon, capeless, with bronze accents. Just wait until the editors start loving with the color correction 😂😂
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Koalas March posted:Just wait until the editors start loving with the color correction 😂😂 Dude, I want some Burger King Edit - Wait, where's the image?
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Mar 6, 2018 07:59
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Is that a lightning bolt or is it just a big gold triangle?
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CityMidnightJunky posted:Except she wasn't actually under arrest. If she's done something illegal, then arrest her. But she was being detained without trial, parole, due process or any real legal grounding at all. It's a slippery slope and Cap knows it. The whole point of her being under house arrest is to avoid facing charges. It's Tony making a compromise to specifically prevent that from happening, and once the furor has died down they can just let her go. Cap isn't angry she's not being brought to court, he's angry she's facing consequences at all for the mistake that killed people. Remember, "the safest hands are still our own", presumably everyone else should just stay out of their way, despite the collateral damage they cause. The problem with Tony's stance is that he doesn't actually believe they should be regulated either, he's just paying lip service to the UN and getting in on the ground floor so he can shape the rules and laws to be as pro-avengers as possible, then just breaks the rules anyways when it's convenient. The whole premise is just a smokescreen, Tony and Cap are on the same page, that they should be above the law and allowed to do as they want. The only difference is that Tony is willing to pretend to follow the rules to assuage the governments while Cap doesn't think he's beholden to anyone but his own ideals.
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Wheat Loaf posted:Is that a lightning bolt or is it just a big gold triangle? Both, the lightning bolt is on top of the big gold triangle. You can just barely make out the shape.
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Mar 6, 2018 12:45
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I think I can sort of make it out, now that you mention it.
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Ugly In The Morning posted:Yeah, crossbones blew up the city block, she just moved the explosion somewhere else where it killed 17 people instead of a few hundred. Honestly if that had happened in the comics she'd have been put to death without a trial, because the 616 public at large is incredibly stupid and vindictive.
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I can't remember, was their operation sanctioned by any government, or did they just go in on their own?
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McCloud posted:I can't remember, was their operation sanctioned by any government, or did they just go in on their own? The movie is incredibly unclear about that.
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Lurdiak posted:The movie is incredibly unclear about that. Not really. Almost immediately after the scene in Lagos (after Tony’s MIT speech) they have a scene in which Steve and Wanda are watching news pieces about whether they, as private citizens with superhuman powers, should have the right to act as they did without any government permission or oversight. That’s kind of the point of the movie.
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The Avengers used to work for SHIELD (which really should excuse them for New York) but then SHIELD was Nazis, so they had to go freelance. He looks kinda like the tiny Superman on Supergirl. I always think of Captain Shazam having a huge Hulk Hogan torso.
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Phylodox posted:Not really. Almost immediately after the scene in Lagos (after Tony’s MIT speech) they have a scene in which Steve and Wanda are watching news pieces about whether they, as private citizens with superhuman powers, should have the right to act as they did without any government permission or oversight. What movie did you watch?
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SonicRulez posted:The Avengers used to work for SHIELD (which really should excuse them for New York) but then SHIELD was Nazis, so they had to go freelance. The Avengers never worked for SHIELD. Steve worked for SHIELD, yeah, but the Avengers were only brought together by them. They were freelance pretty much from the beginning. Lurdiak posted:What movie did you watch? Captain America: Civil War
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SonicRulez posted:The Avengers used to work for SHIELD (which really should excuse them for New York) but then SHIELD was Nazis, so they had to go freelance. They didn't have to go freelance, they wanted to go freelance. Assuming Phylo is correct (and it would line up with the theme of the movie) they decided to, on their own volition, without being asked by anyone, to entirely circumvent local law enforcement officers to go after terrorists, who then escaped into a heavily populated area and caused collateral damage. Then he says they don't need oversight.
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McCloud posted:The whole point of her being under house arrest is to avoid facing charges. It's Tony making a compromise to specifically prevent that from happening, and once the furor has died down they can just let her go. Cap isn't angry she's not being brought to court, he's angry she's facing consequences at all for the mistake that killed people. Tony imprisoning Wanda is an interesting compromise. If Wanda had decided of her own accord to hole up somewhere, ok, but she didn't seem thrilled that Vision was keeping her there against her will for her own (or Stark's) protection.
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McCloud posted:They didn't have to go freelance, they wanted to go freelance. Assuming Phylo is correct (and it would line up with the theme of the movie) they decided to, on their own volition, without being asked by anyone, to entirely circumvent local law enforcement officers to go after terrorists, who then escaped into a heavily populated area and caused collateral damage. That’s oversimplifying. They shouldn’t be able to do whatever they want without consequences. That’s not what Steve wants, either. He wants himself and his teammates, as sovereign citizens, to be able to act on their principles. Government oversight runs the risk of turning the Avengers into Team America: World Police.
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That SHIELD logo doesn't have a gold fringe, you have no authority over me.
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