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Iron Crowned posted:Lets make a Kickstarter, except we use the money to hire competent people instead of defrauding people. Pretty sure this is against TOS for Kickstarter. Re: Andromeda You know how after putting a dumb amount of time in Skyrim it finally hits you that the game is actually pretty boring? Imagine that, but after maybe 5 hours max.
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Skyrim is a pretty good comparison, but it's more like "Imagine if Skyrim had good combat and a decent main plot".
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The biggest problem with Andromeda is that they used Frostbite, so no one can mod it into something that's not exactly fun but will take up time anyway.
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Ainsley McTree posted:I am of the goon hyperbolic opinion that despite this game’s many flaws, it’s easily worth $5. Even if you don’t finish it there’s $5 worth of fun in there Well it's on sale for double that.
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Regarding other bioware games, how do Baldur's Gate and Neverwinter Nights hold up? Do they have the typical Bioware style of writing where your character can only seem to be a naive idiot or a Satanic puppy kicker, or was that a result of their writing quirks getting distilled as the company grew older?
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Mar 5, 2018 20:13
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BG is OK, I can't imagine NWN holding up well at all. BG's writing was very well-considered back in the day but it's mostly fairly standard RPG stuff, with the romances being probably more embarassing nerd-fulfillment fantasies than they are now.
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Rinkles posted:Well it's on sale for double that. Still worth it imo
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If you want to play this for some reason, get Origin Access (or EA Access for the Xbone, no PS4 though) for 5 bucks a month. I think there's a free 1-month trial as well, so you could probably play through the whole thing and then cancel without having to pay anything. That is, unless you get bored after a couple of hours, which is a fairly likely scenario. DMorbid fucked around with this message at 20:43 on Mar 5, 2018 |
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Mar 5, 2018 20:39
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ME:A's combat is fine, it's basically ME3's with the added use of the jetpack/biotic jump, but with fewer powers available to you at any one time.Feels Villeneuve posted:BG is OK, I can't imagine NWN holding up well at all. BG's writing was very well-considered back in the day but it's mostly fairly standard RPG stuff, with the romances being probably more embarassing nerd-fulfillment fantasies than they are now. NWN1 doesn't hold up well. Neither does base NWN2, but Mask Of The Betrayer is very good. Of course, that's Obsidian, not Bioware.
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Kurieg posted:but with fewer powers available to you at any one time. Isn't that a big deal? Or not in practice?
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Rinkles posted:Isn't that a big deal? Or not in practice? It can be, in practice it means you build one workhorse build and just accept that if you need something more specialized you're going to be spending the downtime between swapping sets humping cover.
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It never really bothered me. Considering the trade off is “you can respec into whatever you want for a modest fee” I thought it was worth it. Though I guess gibbed save editor let you do it for free in me2/3.
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Arcsquad12 posted:Regarding other bioware games, how do Baldur's Gate and Neverwinter Nights hold up? Do they have the typical Bioware style of writing where your character can only seem to be a naive idiot or a Satanic puppy kicker, or was that a result of their writing quirks getting distilled as the company grew older? NWN1's main campaign was never any good. The real meat of the game was the toolset that it came with and the online experience.
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Arcsquad12 posted:Regarding other bioware games, how do Baldur's Gate and Neverwinter Nights hold up? Do they have the typical Bioware style of writing where your character can only seem to be a naive idiot or a Satanic puppy kicker, or was that a result of their writing quirks getting distilled as the company grew older? BG1 is incredibly bad. BG2 is also bad but at least somewhat playable. NWN1's expansions and all of NWN2 except storm of zehir is good. NWN1's original campaign is kinda meh, but it's still better than BG.
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NWN2 is a clunky, ugly, and surprisingly-charming-despite-being-set-in-and-around-Neverwinter game. I ultimately enjoyed it, but there's a lot not to enjoy about it. It is perhaps most noteworthy for having three different camera systems, all of which are simultaneously the worst camera ever. Mask of the Betrayer is very good, but a harder thing to skip to without playing the main game than BG2 without playing BG1.
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Ooh, film grain is back. (trying the trial)
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Feels Villeneuve posted:BG is OK, I can't imagine NWN holding up well at all. BG's writing was very well-considered back in the day but it's mostly fairly standard RPG stuff, with the romances being probably more embarassing nerd-fulfillment fantasies than they are now. Well, it depends. I personally think the BG2 romances -- Jaheira, at least, maybe Viconia but certainly not Aerie -- are better than anything Bioware did later. Even if it's just because the characters in BG2 feel like they have more agency and it's possible to fail the romance plots by doing the wrong thing and saying the wrong thing, which you can't really do in any later game. BG2's writing is still pretty decent by CRPG standards. BG1 not so much. NWN1 is pretty dang bad and I think NWN2 suffers from being notably incomplete.
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Are all of these intro cinematics unskippable? E: at least not that long
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Game's real pretty at some points.
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Rinkles posted:Game's real pretty at some points. Yeah, as long as you aren't looking at any non-humans directly in the face, you can't really fault the graphics on this one.
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Ainsley McTree posted:Yeah, as long as you aren't looking at any non-humans directly in the face, you can't really fault the graphics on this one. Yes, close ups ruin the illusion.
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Mymla posted:MEA is about on par with ME3, but without the magnificently bad ending. Definitely better than ME1. kys
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Mar 6, 2018 02:22
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The environment art is AAA level and those artists deserve to be scooped up by a better studio. This is p much the only thing I post about in this thread.
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Mymla posted:MEA is about on par with ME3, but without the magnificently bad ending. Definitely better than ME1. "this game that killed a beloved franchise is better than the one that created one" -- a goon, 2018
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Actually the human faces look pretty bad too come to think of it Default dad Ryder looks alright. He should have been the protagonist
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Milky Moor posted:"this game that killed a beloved franchise is better than the one that created one" -- a goon, 2018 When was the last time you played ME1? The game aged like milk, and andromeda is better than it in every single way.
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Honestly I feel like the primary point of contention is that Andromeda's main combat gameplay is flat out better than 1's even with all the stupid encounter design decisions, but Andromeda is the game where doing side-quests feels directly like a punishment for some unknown cosmic sin you've committed. Whether you think Andromeda is better than 1 probably comes down to whether mediocre combat or terrible arbitrary feeling quests offends you more.
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Doing side-quests were directly a punishment in ME1, too.
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it's well known bioware can't do combat see: dragon age inquisition, the game that looked at korean F2P MMOs from the early 2000s and went "yeah that's our combat system right there"
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BARONS CYBER SKULL posted:it's well known bioware can't do combat And yet the mass effect series has some of the best third person shooter combat ever. And DAI also has some of the best party-based RTWP RPG combat. Which isn't exactly the best form of combat, but they did a pretty good job with the system they decided on.
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Mymla posted:Doing side-quests were directly a punishment in ME1, too. I've found that ME1's pretty fun if you just ignore literally all the side poo poo (except the moon mission) and beeline the main story missions. I haven't tried that approach with Andromeda but I'm not optimistic it'd feel too much better
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I do every sidequest on every ME1 playthrough, including the DLC.  (well, maybe not Pinnacle Station) I do the same with ME2 and 3 as well, but ME1 is my favorite of them all even though it's technically the worst game of the trilogy.I have no idea why I do all the sidequests, because I'm not a completionist in most games and have absolutely no plans to do a completionist run of Andromeda because gently caress that "fetch ten space bear asses" MMO quest design. As for ME1, I think some of the sidequests in that game are pretty cool (like stumbling on a derelict freighter full of husks, or dealing with the clown college for supervillains that Cerberus was introduced as), and it's mainly the constant reuse of assets and maps that drags that stuff down for me. I'm also one of those broke-brained weirdos who genuinely like the Mako, because there's something really chill about driving that bouncy castle on wheels and trying to scale mountains with it. Man, now I want to play ME1 yet again. I hope EA/BioWare update the trilogy for the Xbox One X at some point (which I think is more likely than a similar update for Andromeda  ), because playing the games at 4K and with improved graphics/performance would be cool even though you can already do that on PC.Ainsley McTree posted:I've found that ME1's pretty fun if you just ignore literally all the side poo poo (except the moon mission) and beeline the main story missions. I haven't tried that approach with Andromeda but I'm not optimistic it'd feel too much better DMorbid fucked around with this message at 03:57 on Mar 6, 2018 |
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I would much rather play another 200 hours of Skyrim than another hour of MEA. It helps Skyrim had good music whereas MEA inexcusably sucks in terms of music, breaking with a three-game long tradition of having amazing soundtracks.
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Mymla posted:And yet the mass effect series has some of the best third person shooter combat ever. Combat in DAI quickly got pretty tedious. In comparison breaking the back of DAO’s combat design with magic combos never got old for me.
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At release Mass Effect 1 was 69x the game Mass Effect Andromeda was at it's release If you ignore the temporal issue and pretend they both just released simultaneously, if you look at story and execution and tone it's maybe 42.0x the game. ME:A is loving garbage
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it's really kind of funny to see a very dedicated poster trying out the Andromeda Defense even when MEA has been rightfully torn to pieces and even abandoned by its publisher like, okay, points for effort and consistency but...
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Mar 6, 2018 08:29
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Mymla posted:
What the gently caress are you talking about?
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Anyone remember any tricks for squeezing out some extra performance? It's running okay but a bit more eyecandy would be nice.
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Mymla posted:When was the last time you played ME1? The game aged like milk, and andromeda is better than it in every single way. I'm always impressed how you constantly have wrong opinions on everything.
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