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Postorder Trollet89 posted:I can smell those 3.5% from here. Rest in piss
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so that means I can be a cheapskate and post about posting instead of having some wit or spending any more on comedy avs for people. Which I'm also incapable of. Comedy.
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What would be going far enough in their terms. 
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They hadn't even announced their visit, just a swarm of police descending on Mjølnerparken and cordoning poo poo off for this disgusting photo op. Inger Støjberg ventured outside to stand in front of the protesters and have her picture taken while grimacing.MiddleOne posted:What would be going far enough in their terms. Freikorps and Madagascar Plan type poo poo. Calling it now.
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SplitSoul posted:Freikorps and Madagascar Plan type poo poo. Calling it now.
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Mar 2, 2018 15:30
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A Buttery Pastry posted:Grønlandplanen Well, somebody has to labour away in the uranium mines and the natives are too busy committing suicide.
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Reading about this from an outside perspective just seems crazy. Danes, what's actually going on in your country? Are you going full fash or is this just the standard right-wing shitheads proposing poo poo-head policies that won't actually go through?
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Mar 3, 2018 11:38
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Turns out that Denmark was a mistake.
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Crimpolioni posted:Reading about this from an outside perspective just seems crazy. Danes, what's actually going on in your country? Are you going full fash or is this just the standard right-wing shitheads proposing poo poo-head policies that won't actually go through?
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Cerebral Bore posted:Turns out that Denmark was a mistake. And the north sea is on the way to correct that mistake, just give it some time, no worries.
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Crimpolioni posted:Reading about this from an outside perspective just seems crazy. Danes, what's actually going on in your country? Are you going full fash or is this just the standard right-wing shitheads proposing poo poo-head policies that won't actually go through? It is very likely that a lot of these policies—especially things like double penalty zones, but not the niqab ban—will run afoul of the ECHR, but the government has already shown its willingness to deliberately ignore their rulings for years and then lie about it to parliament. Given that the Danish People's Party provides them a parliamentary majority of a single seat and have no scruples about violating conventions and accountability law, and that Denmark has no constitutional court, they can keep doing this indefinitely. The last time the the EU tried to sanction a member country (Austria), it lasted only a few months and was an abject failure. But whether or not these insane measures will actually be implemented as presented, as evidenced they still rocket the Overton window to the far-right.
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Mar 3, 2018 13:29
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Government's fascist proposal of the day: Give the military authority to search residences and arrest people.
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SplitSoul posted:Government's fascist proposal of the day: Give the military authority to search residences and arrest people. Why is it always calling in the military that is the solution? I mean, the last 15 years of real world politics should give us a pretty good description of what happens when you use the military to try and keep law and order. Mind you, the Swedish social democratic prime minister did the same statement. As did SD for that matter.
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Mar 4, 2018 18:49
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It's the ultimate 'tough on crime' standpoint by basically equivocating crime with threats to national sovereignty.
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Mar 4, 2018 18:55
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MiddleOne posted:It's the ultimate 'tough on crime' standpoint by basically equivocating crime with threats to national sovereignty. It's also a convenient way for these people to say they won't have to increase the police budget!
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Mar 4, 2018 20:25
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Hey, maybe they're on to something. Lets put some soldiers in school to deal with those staffing and discipline problems. Lets put some soldiers in elderly care!
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Mar 4, 2018 21:13
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The Swedish home guard isn't even allowed to go to the shooting range on its own, thanks to being banned from performing its own medic roll. A civilian policing role is... probably not in the cards...
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Crimpolioni posted:Reading about this from an outside perspective just seems crazy. Danes, what's actually going on in your country? Are you going full fash or is this just the standard right-wing shitheads proposing poo poo-head policies that won't actually go through? Denmark is legitimately one of the most amazing countries on the planet (though probably worse than the rest of Scandinavia at this point), in a wide range of ways; mainly tied to having a strong collective tradition. In terms of health-care, environment, starting businesses, crime, purchasing power (despite the semi-high tax), education, happiness, arts, personal freedom, etc. Denmark is (still) among the greatest places to be. Unfortunately, over the last 20 years, many of the political parties have begun actively trying to dismantle the things that has made it such an unique and great country. Such as the various liberal parties undermining the public sector institutions with an intentional 'starve the beast' strategy. While at the same time the conservo-facists trying to turn the country into an nationalist ethno-state, being in a bidding war of being the most vile in terms of immigration, the most 'tough on crime' and so on, spurred on by a terrible media, who wildly distorts the problems of immigration literally every week. In addition, the right wing of the social democratic party unfortunately won the internal power-struggle, and since then they've been doing their best to go full-retard on all of the above, combining literally the worst of all the other parties. However, the most damage has probably been done by the right wing political parties deciding to work together Danish Peoples Party, in order to further their own agenda (of dismantling the public sector). This has led to an incredibly fast normalization of racism, leading to more marginalization, which again leads to more extremism, and as the bottom of the social space gets more and more 'brown', also to an increased focus on how crime is done by 'the browns', more militarized police, and as mentioned above, has shifted the Overton window so far towards fascism, it doesn't draw any particular ire to suggest the most disgusting policies on these areas.
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With all that in mind, here are the results from the Integration Ministry's study on values. Turns out Danes were the problem the whole time. Would you look at that. lmao https://twitter.com/larskohler/status/970262163121233920?s=19           
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SplitSoul posted:With all that in mind, here are the results from the Integration Ministry's study on values. Turns out Danes were the problem the whole time. Would you look at that. lmao Care to elaborate on what is bad in the numbers? At first glance it looks like an overwhelming majority for equal rights and liberty, if you sum yes and no categories. Not that I disagree with Denmark being the problem. Zudgemud posted:It's also a convenient way for these people to say they won't have to increase the police budget! Too bad they won’t increase the military budget either. Also, trusting 20 year olds with assault weapons in the middle of an urban environment sounds like a great idea. Although Högvakten have managed for a long time with just the odd death due to suicide and misfirings. But you can only do so much with 5 bullets in the magazine.
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Cardiac posted:Care to elaborate on what is bad in the numbers? At first glance it looks like an overwhelming majority for equal rights and liberty, if you sum yes and no categories.
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Mar 5, 2018 07:09
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A Buttery Pastry posted:I think the point is that the immigrants generally score better. That said, I'm not sure looking at the (current) end-result of two decades of concerted anti-immigrant/Muslim propaganda makes sense in terms of determining the root cause of anti-immigrant sentiments in Denmark. Score better in opinions is an interesting idea. That said, the marriage equality question is more split. And as always, immigrant is a very coarse definition, where the average give little meaning without knowledge of the population composition. As example, does Scandinavians count as immigrants? Cause like in Sweden that is probably one of the major immigrant groups for Denmark.
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Mar 5, 2018 07:19
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They want to privatize healthcare.
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Who is ‘they?’
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Socialdemokraterna are trying to score political points by ragging on Moderaterna and the construction of Nya Karolinska Sjukhuset. Saying something is upside down is a way of saying it's crazy and/or bad. e: Not that NKS isn't a complete shitshow, but lol if you think S wouldn't line the pockets of their contractor buddies just as much as M has. Collateral Damage fucked around with this message at 11:26 on Mar 5, 2018 |
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Mar 5, 2018 10:37
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Cardiac posted:Care to elaborate on what is bad in the numbers? At first glance it looks like an overwhelming majority for equal rights and liberty, if you sum yes and no categories. He said about a country that's currently trying to chuck the concept of equality before the law into the trash.
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Collateral Damage posted:Socialdemokraterna are trying to score political by ragging on Moderaterna and the construction of Nya Karolinska Sjukhuset. Saying something is upside down is a way of saying it's crazy and/or bad. Yeah this is a case of pot calling kettle black. It's especially brazen considering that we dropped several ranks in the corruption index, and all the scandals that have been going on lately. I want to say "both sides are bad" but that kind of attitude is what leads to people voting for monsters in the guise of "common sense solutions" and "cleaning up" in politics.
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Mar 5, 2018 11:03
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Send Stockholms Landsting to mine iron ore in a reeducation camp outside of Vilhelmina or something
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So, have MP and C just had really bad luck the past couple years, or is there some sort of documented long game going on with Islamists in these parties?
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Groda posted:So, have MP and C just had really bad luck the past couple years, or is there some sort of documented long game going on with Islamists in these parties? In a desperate attempt to highjack the MP electorate, C stole the contents as well as the image. 
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Regarding NKS: Modern election politics is alot about marketing, so I can’t really fault S for pointing out the very real and actual M-caused poo poo show that is NKS. I think it’s a pretty clever ad, but then I’m a socialist so clearly biased as gently caress.
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Cardiac posted:Care to elaborate on what is bad in the numbers? You didn't even read them, did you? Ethnic Danes score worse than immigrants and their children on a wide range of issues that immigrants are routinely lambasted for, including support for religious freedom, gender equality, acceptance of minorities, willingness to pursue higher education and friendships with people outside their own ethnicity, etc. "Parallel societies" is the current mantra of pretty much every party in parliament, but especially the governing ones. The discussion is literally turned on its head. It's also the reason why the average Dane thinks there are three times as many Muslims here than is the case. Cardiac posted:And as always, immigrant is a very coarse definition, where the average give little meaning without knowledge of the population composition. Read the study yourself, it's linked in the tweet and outlines the methodology. It's considered representative and was conducted by Danmarks Statistik on behalf of the Ministry of Integration. quote:Gruppen af nydanskere omfatter indvandrere og efterkommere med ikke-vestlig oprindelse. Indvandrerne i undersøgelsen har haft mindst tre års opholdstid i Danmark. SplitSoul fucked around with this message at 16:27 on Mar 5, 2018 |
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didnt S also have a finger in the disaster that was NKS? correct me if im wrong here, truly can't remember.
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SplitSoul posted:Ethnic Danes score worse than immigrants and their children on a wide range of issues that immigrants are routinely lambasted for Sure, if you only look at the extreme answers. If you look at the positive answers on the whole you get a different picture. SplitSoul posted:
IMO Danes seem to markedly differ from immigrants and their children on The Gays and university education. They found a statistically significant difference between peoples answers to many of the questions, but I don't know that you can equate that to Danes being the problem. A lot of Danes are only now beginning to have personal experiences with immigrants due to the way they're being distributed around the country. It takes time to realize that the picture the media put in your head of immigrants doesn't mesh with reality.
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Struensee posted:Sure, if you only look at the extreme answers. That's considered the ideal for "fully integrated" individuals, is it not? Anyway, the point is it doesn't exactly correspond with the government's framing of existing issues as fortified sharia hellzones full of medieval savages clamouring for kuffar blood. It would be interesting to compare these numbers with DF voters'. A similar comparison was conducted in 2009 and revealed they were as conservative, if not moreso, than non-western immigrants on a lot of issues like the death penalty and physical discipline.
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Today is the day when Stefan Löfven saves us all by meeting the senile carrot. I for one can not wait to hear the great things this meeting will achieve.
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Potrzebie posted:Today is the day when Stefan Löfven saves us all by meeting the senile carrot. I for one can not wait to hear the great things this meeting will achieve. As usual there is no man too bad to talk to when SAAB business interests are at stake.
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Where is the ghost of Olof Palme when you need him 
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TheFluff posted:Where is the ghost of Olof Palme when you need him Strung up outside Sveavägen 68 as a cautious example to anyone who would dare whisper the name Jeremy Corbyn.
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Strikes are coming to Denmark, most notably the anestesians and ortophedians are striking. Should create some chaos at least.
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