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rio
Mar 20, 2008

its curtains for Kevin posted:

That’s my foot because my legs are wrapped around it

Oh I see it now. I thought that was a bean bag chair or something.

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DEUCE SLUICE
Feb 6, 2004

I dreamt I was an old dog, stuck in a honeypot. It was horrifying.

syntaxfunction posted:

I think I remember when you were warwick5s or something. I've played a few Warwicks and walked away impressed (I'm a guitarist who wishes they were a bassist mind) so are Stambaughs that brilliant? For the price I'd want them to be!

Yeah, I played nothing but Warwicks for about eight years and had a deal with them for a few years in the early aughts (got dropped when distribution changed hands.) Eventually realized that I wanted more of a jazz bass thing, cycled through a few basses until I figured out that no manufacturer actually made what I needed and turned to Chris to make it. They're great basses because they're put together well, but they're great *for me* because they're no compromise executions of what *I* want down to the smallest detail.

Plus, nowadays you can get into a Stambaugh for much cheaper than a "Pro" teambuilt or masterbuilt Warwick.

Bottom Liner
Feb 15, 2006


a specific vein of lasagna

DEUCE SLUICE posted:

Plus, nowadays you can get into a Stambaugh for much cheaper than a "Pro" teambuilt or masterbuilt Warwick.

Am I reading their price list correctly that custom 4's start under 2k? That's insane.

DEUCE SLUICE
Feb 6, 2004

I dreamt I was an old dog, stuck in a honeypot. It was horrifying.
Yup. Each of my three were under $2500, and my singlecut six that is being built should be around $2800.

Bottom Liner
Feb 15, 2006


a specific vein of lasagna
I might be talking with him about a fretless soon, that's incredible. A 4 string of this is really close to what I've always wanted.




edit: anyone with a good eye know what strings these might be?

Bottom Liner fucked around with this message at 20:50 on Mar 6, 2018

Dyna Soar
Nov 30, 2006
Oh god

DEUCE SLUICE
Feb 6, 2004

I dreamt I was an old dog, stuck in a honeypot. It was horrifying.

Bottom Liner posted:

I might be talking with him about a fretless soon, that's incredible. A 4 string of this is really close to what I've always wanted.




edit: anyone with a good eye know what strings these might be?

Some sort of black tapewound: http://www.bassstringsonline.com/Tapewound_c_256.html



shush you

Jeff Goldblum
Dec 3, 2009

Not to divert away from bass porn, but I recently started a new project with a two singer/songwriters whom I have worked with before. We're going for the stripped back approach, to start, which means I'm going to be rocking the Kala U-Bass on and off, and I've been considering working a smaller alternative to help with moving back and forth between various practice locations and venues. Also, so I can use the truck less, which has started to put on a lot of miles.

The half stack option is currently a Peavey Delta Bass (on loan from my guitarist since I still haven't figured out what was wrong with my SWR 350) on a Low Down Sound 4x8/10, which comes on rollers but it is still the size of a 4x10 and requires the truck to get to shows. In my main band, there is no alternative unless there is a good PA or a house amp (which nobody has done in years).

My current tiny amp is the Roland Bass Cube RX, on the OP's recommendation. It was apparently on sale and made a great Christmas present a few years ago, and has gone together great with the Kala for jamming alone and even for recording music videos. I would put the Roland behind the half-stack (if I brought it at all) and run it off batteries at off-set shoots, I could even run the tracks over the inputs. I love it, but its easy to get swallowed up by a couple of acoustic guitars, and soon there will be drums. I could get away with it for some of the smaller practices, at the moment; but, I've tried using this at even the smallest corner gigs and it does not even begin to cut the mustard.

Now, just as I started writing, I got a message from a friend in another band who's caught word. He has an Ampeg Micro-CL, but I'm wary that it looks like more of a toy, and I'm talking about its feature set and capabilities (no gain control wtf).
I would much rather have something with a balanced DI and possibly a tiltback. And, it needs to sound good with the Kala U-Bass tone, which is more akin to an upright than an acoustic or electric.

If anyone has recommenations, I'd appreciate it. I may visit my friend and see the Micro-CL just to see what's up.

e. Especially since he is practically unloading it on me for cheap

Jeff Goldblum fucked around with this message at 01:40 on Mar 7, 2018

DEUCE SLUICE
Feb 6, 2004

I dreamt I was an old dog, stuck in a honeypot. It was horrifying.
What's your budget?

Jeff Goldblum
Dec 3, 2009

DEUCE SLUICE posted:

What's your budget?

Less than $500, $200 being a real sweet spot

CheesyDog
Jul 4, 2007

by FactsAreUseless
Fender Rumble 100 or 200 would do nicely

TheQuietWilds
Sep 8, 2009
I really like the Hartke Kickback 12, but I might be in the minority with that opinion. My Kickback has done well for me since forever, so a lot of it is probably familiarity.

rio
Mar 20, 2008

Jeff Goldblum posted:

Less than $500, $200 being a real sweet spot

Acoustic makes cheap but decent combos although they can be heavy. As the price goes up the portability does too.

Bottom Liner
Feb 15, 2006


a specific vein of lasagna
If you can find an older Fender Bassman combo they have some fantastic sound. The 100 is a sweet spot for size/volume. My 60 watt from about 2002 is one of the best tones I've ever heard.

pumped up for school
Nov 24, 2010

TheQuietWilds posted:

I really like the Hartke Kickback 12, but I might be in the minority with that opinion. My Kickback has done well for me since forever, so a lot of it is probably familiarity.

I've always had a soft spot for Hartke stuff. My second fridge was a Hartke driven by an 800rb, and it lasted me longer than my Ampeg. This was a long time ago, though.

Doomy
Oct 19, 2004

Here’s my wall of basses:



I went whole hog on the wall hangers after moving into a house.

pumped up for school
Nov 24, 2010

I've been thinking about wall hangars as my new place, the room I'm in has a couple of bare interior walls. Cases fill my closet. I'm just in an extremely dusty environment, travel for months at a time, and know it would look like a pawn shop when I get home.

Thumposaurus
Jul 24, 2007

We're moving into a new place and I've been looking at the multi guitar stands as an alternitive to wall hangers. New place doesn't have the wall space our current place has to make it worth screwing the hangers I have in.
Amazon has some pretty cheap ones that should be good enough for home use I hope.

Thorpe
Feb 14, 2007

RELEASE THE KITTIES

CheesyDog posted:

Fender Rumble 100 or 200 would do nicely

I have two fender rumble 100s for stereo sound on solo stuff, they're absolutely fantastic. I feel like 1 could keep up with some drummers even, as long as they aren't super hard hitting.

Here's my bass porn picture, down to just 2 now from about 5 last year. I would love a fretless but I've been saying that for about 10 years now and still have never owned one.

tarlibone
Aug 1, 2014

Am I a... bad person?
Am I???
Fun Shoe

Thumposaurus posted:

We're moving into a new place and I've been looking at the multi guitar stands as an alternitive to wall hangers. New place doesn't have the wall space our current place has to make it worth screwing the hangers I have in.
Amazon has some pretty cheap ones that should be good enough for home use I hope.

Stay away from the 3-instrument ones. You know, the ones that look vaguely like three standard, tubular stands arranged back-to-back-to-back. The neck support parts are always loose, and you'll have to set them up very high because basses are taller--they want to lean back too far when the neck brace is low, and the necks and headstocks may get in each others' ways. The whole thing is just wobbly. It's not super-bad, but it's bad enough to make one worry a little.

I'm trying to save you the trouble I've had with this design. Now... it does work, in that if you set it up right and are careful with it, it'll hold your instruments. But things you take for granted--like the idea that you can move it with an instrument in it if you're careful, like I can do with my old, tank-like tube stands by grabbing the neck and the brace at the same time? Yeah, that won't work.

Thumposaurus
Jul 24, 2007

I was looking more at this type
AW 9 Nine Holder Multi Guitar Folding Stand Band Stage Bass Acoustic Guitar Display Rack https://www.amazon.com/dp/B073ZZ3M8J/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_zUjOAbX690YR8

Sockington
Jul 26, 2003

Thorpe posted:

I have two fender rumble 100s for stereo sound on solo stuff, they're absolutely fantastic. I feel like 1 could keep up with some drummers even, as long as they aren't super hard hitting.

Here's my bass porn picture, down to just 2 now from about 5 last year. I would love a fretless but I've been saying that for about 10 years now and still have never owned one.



Geddy Bros :cheers:

its curtains for Kevin
Nov 14, 2011

Fruit is proof that the gods exist and love us.

Just kidding!

Life is meaningless

Thumposaurus posted:

I was looking more at this type
AW 9 Nine Holder Multi Guitar Folding Stand Band Stage Bass Acoustic Guitar Display Rack https://www.amazon.com/dp/B073ZZ3M8J/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_zUjOAbX690YR8

I have one similar; cheap pot metal, but effective. If you don’t have kids to tear it up then you’re good

Bill Posters
Apr 27, 2007

I'm tripping right now... Don't fuck this up for me.

its curtains for Kevin posted:

I have one similar; cheap pot metal, but effective. If you don’t have kids to tear it up then you’re good

I have two smaller versions. They're great but as you say the kids love to pull the padding off.

On thing to watch out for if you have nitro finished instruments is that the foam padding on some stands can react with the lacquer and leave foggy stains in the finish.

rio
Mar 20, 2008

Thumposaurus posted:

I was looking more at this type
AW 9 Nine Holder Multi Guitar Folding Stand Band Stage Bass Acoustic Guitar Display Rack https://www.amazon.com/dp/B073ZZ3M8J/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_zUjOAbX690YR8

I had that exact one and it is not heavy duty but works just fine considering the price. I don’t know how it would hold up over time as I don’t use it anymore and just use wall hangers but I got a couple years of use out of it before switching to the hangars and the only issue was that the upper posts were getting loose but not so much that I was afraid my guitars would fall. The angle of the stand makes it hard to put it right next to the wall though, particularly with longer necks.

Jeff Goldblum
Dec 3, 2009

For fifty dollars, I caved. Hell, I didn't even cave. I picked the thing up on the way to practice and then proceeded to carpool. It felt great. With the U-Bass in tow, I can carry my entire rig on my back and hands.
I'll need to look into an acoustic preamp, which I definitely need, then I can start honing some tone. But, I got a big sound that really fits this bands needs without breaking up too much and introducing dirt into the U-Bass's mud.

I'll keep these rec's in mind, though, if I decide to resell the Micro. Pics to follow when I have daylight.

Thumposaurus
Jul 24, 2007

Thanks for the info.
I have a few instruments finished with nitro and was wondering about the reactability of the foam.
I can always wrap a micro fiber cloth over it that's worked fine in the past with other not nitro friendly materials.

DEUCE SLUICE
Feb 6, 2004

I dreamt I was an old dog, stuck in a honeypot. It was horrifying.

Jeff Goldblum posted:

For fifty dollars, I caved. Hell, I didn't even cave. I picked the thing up on the way to practice and then proceeded to carpool. It felt great. With the U-Bass in tow, I can carry my entire rig on my back and hands.
I'll need to look into an acoustic preamp, which I definitely need, then I can start honing some tone. But, I got a big sound that really fits this bands needs without breaking up too much and introducing dirt into the U-Bass's mud.

I'll keep these rec's in mind, though, if I decide to resell the Micro. Pics to follow when I have daylight.

Yeah, you couldn't have done any better until you start talking $300+. Nice deal!

Southern Heel
Jul 2, 2004

CheesyDog posted:

Fender Rumble 100 or 200 would do nicely

Is a Rumble 200 loud enough to gig a bar with?

EDIT: forget it, didn't realise it was >£450 new

tarlibone
Aug 1, 2014

Am I a... bad person?
Am I???
Fun Shoe

Southern Heel posted:

Is a Rumble 200 loud enough to gig a bar with?

EDIT: forget it, didn't realise it was >£450 new

Just about any 200 watt amp should do for a gig at a bar.

All Fender Rumbles, from the 40 on up, have an XLR out, too. So, even if the amp isn't loud enough for the gig all by itself, you can run it into the PA and use your amp as a monitor.

Hellblazer187
Oct 12, 2003

squier bass on sale at my local pawn shop for like $150. No matter the model, that's a good deal for this country. If it's still there after April 20, I'm gonna buy it. Can I get away without an amp for a while? I have a rocksmith cable, so I should be able to plug into my computer, I think. Is there any decent amp sim type software for practice I could use? I don't really need it to sound great, just enough to learn a bit.

Dyna Soar
Nov 30, 2006

Hellblazer187 posted:

Can I get away without an amp for a while? I have a rocksmith cable, so I should be able to plug into my computer, I think. Is there any decent amp sim type software for practice I could use? I don't really need it to sound great, just enough to learn a bit.

yes and no. i mean you can of course play without being plugged in, but playing without any amplification will likely lead you to learn the habit of playing too hard, which is good for some music but very bad for others.

do you have a smartphone? i have one of these, it's an ok way to practise if you don't have a practise amp: https://www.musicradar.com/reviews/guitars/ik-multimedia-irig-2-621995. i use it in my summercabin for example. also works with other apps, like garageband.

then again a cheapo practise amp will set you back like 20 euros used.

BDA
Dec 10, 2007

Extremely grim and evil.
Basses are usually recorded DI anyway so direct monitoring with no amp sims will work -- probably won't sound great with stock Squier pickups but it'll be OK for practice. If whatever software you use has VST support there's a freeware plugin I like called BOD by TSE that emulates the Sansamp BDDI which punches up a direct signal and sounds pretty good IMO. I like the results I get with my cheapo Yamaha at any rate.

Dyna Soar
Nov 30, 2006
If you want to play directly into a DAW, you need both an interface and a DI box (interface to transfer the signal to your computer and a DI box to "balance" the signal, essentially to compress it a bit to make it stable. Those two will set you back 50-100 euros in minimum.

Bottom Liner
Feb 15, 2006


a specific vein of lasagna
alternatively you can just use a 1/4 to 1/8 adapter and plug the guitar cable straight into a Bluetooth speaker with an aux input jack and play just fine. I do that all the time by the pool.

Dyna Soar
Nov 30, 2006
yeah true, i've also played through my stereo a time or two. that would actually probably be the easiest solution, hah.

as far as amp sims go, there's reaper which is a free digital audio workstation. you could emulate any amp with it via a plug in and also record your playing. it's kinda deep and complex though, so maybe not something you're looking for to start with.

Hellblazer187
Oct 12, 2003

Yeah I suppose I'll just get a cheap amp. I'll be swimming in amps though haha

Shageletic
Jul 25, 2007

its curtains for Kevin posted:





:downs:



I’m actually sitting down learning The Middle, Seven Nation Army, and Revolution Radio (surprisingly complex) because some local punk band needs a bassist and it sounds like fun to play some live music.

Just keep it simple, The Middle is like three chords play them open string, DAGD. It's punk, just have fun with it, no one's expecting precision unless you're like in Lightning Bolt or something.

e: That Fender 350 Bass Amp I bought that sounded off when I got it is now sounding clean as all hell. I guess we just needed to knock some dust off it? Have no idea how that happened but I'm pretty grateful, it sounds awesome. I haven't dared put the volume much past the halfway mark yet.

e2: I've used my Fender 100 watt in small bar venues even with a drummer. It's a fantastic piece of machinery. Man I love that brand.

Shageletic fucked around with this message at 21:30 on Mar 14, 2018

Hellblazer187
Oct 12, 2003

I know I'm not supposed to use a guitar amp, but what about a guitar headphone amp? I've got an AC30 flavored Vox Amplug. There's no speaker for it to blow. I could plug that into either headphones or computer speakers for a start. I did play guitar with it through speakers for a week when I was traveling and it was decent enough. I suppose the volume will be low.

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baka kaba
Jul 19, 2003

PLEASE ASK ME, THE SELF-PROFESSED NO #1 PAUL CATTERMOLE FAN IN THE SOMETHING AWFUL S-CLUB 7 MEGATHREAD, TO NAME A SINGLE SONG BY HIS EXCELLENT NU-METAL SIDE PROJECT, SKUA, AND IF I CAN'T PLEASE TELL ME TO
EAT SHIT

I've played bass through my crappy guitar amp before, I had no problems - just didn't turn it up too loud

You could play through Rocksmith if you really wanted (in the tone designer or whatever), but honestly there's always gonna be latency and that's especially bad for a rhythm instrument where you're trying to develop feel. But yeah, playing unplugged means you play too hard just to be able to hear it, any kind of amp will be a ton better. You don't even need good tone - I mean that's obviously cool and good and might be important later, but a completely acceptable bass tone is "infinitely old strings with the tone knob rolled off". So long as you can develop timing and dynamic control, you're good

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