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Groovelord Neato
Dec 6, 2014


lol

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nine-gear crow
Aug 10, 2013

...Because they're the only group that's actually good at it? :confused:

Avirosb
Nov 21, 2016

Everyone makes pisstakes

But the Right is engaging in it all the time though?
Mostly unintentionally but still

BiggerBoat
Sep 26, 2007

Don't you tell me my business again.
I heard a Ted Cruz political ad on an NPR segment this morning and whoo boy.

https://www.conservativereview.com/articles/ted-cruz-pockets-primary-win-trolls-dem-catchy-new-campaign-ad/

It got me to thinking about how conservatives are anti big government except when it comes to things like sanctuary cities. There's no bigger Gestapo than ICE right now but they're totally into it. What happened to "State's Rights"?

kenner116
May 15, 2009

BiggerBoat posted:

What happened to "State's Rights"?

"States rights" from the beginning was always about preserving slavery and then Jim Crow. From the Fugitive Slave Act (northern states forced to return escaped slaves) and it being illegal for any state in the Confederacy to ban slavery, it was never really about giving states more autonomy, except when it aligned with their political goals (usually upholding white supremacy).

Eggplant Squire
Aug 14, 2003


That should be clear from the Confederate Constitution more or less being the same as the old one but saying that member states couldn't outlaw slavery.

Screaming Idiot
Nov 26, 2007

JUST POSTING WHILE JERKIN' MY GHERKIN SITTIN' IN A PERKINS!

BEATS SELLING MERKINS.

"How come blacks get to walk around with their pants so low? If I let my pants fall to my knees, I get arrested! Do the blacks just like showing off their asses? Is that it? Maybe that's why they're such good friends with the gays! What, I'm just asking questions!" *wacky expression, shrug, racist homphobic applause*

Edit: actually I think I accidentally used a Trevor Noah stand-up bit by mistake, sorry

Vargatron
Apr 19, 2008

MRAZZLE DAZZLE



Because the Conservative idea of comedy is Larry the Cable Guy.

Crabtree
Oct 17, 2012

ARRRGH! Get that wallet out!
Everybody: Lowtax in a Pickle!
Pickle! Pickle! Pickle! Pickle!

Dinosaur Gum

Because you suck at it and the only jokes you say are repeated punching down on non-whites, women, the young, the old and everyone that currently isn't you. Conservative humor is widespread and thus worthless.

Vargatron
Apr 19, 2008

MRAZZLE DAZZLE


Like seriously I get enough boorish riffs on Democrats at work, I don't want to hear about that poo poo at a comedy club.

The Right is really good at calling things out, but really bad at understanding why their position is dumb.

Rent-A-Cop
Oct 15, 2004

I posted my food for USPOL Thanksgiving!

Vargatron posted:

Because the Conservative idea of comedy is Larry the Cable Guy.
Larry the Cable Guy is a genius.

Also he makes a fine dill pickle chip.

Relentless
Sep 22, 2007

It's a perfect day for some mayhem!



It's capitalism at work. When there's more money in conservative comedy it will get it's own talk shows.

They sure bitch a lot when the invisible hand actually does it's job.

Angry_Ed
Mar 30, 2010




Grimey Drawer
The only good conservative comedian/comic personality I can think of is Michael J. Nelson (MST3K/Rifftrax) and that probably is only because he's one of those "nice" Upper Midwest conservatives who doesn't spend every waking hour of the day visibly hating on people who aren't exactly like him.

Angry_Ed fucked around with this message at 17:03 on Mar 7, 2018

seiferguy
Jun 9, 2005

FLAWED
INTUITION



Toilet Rascal

Laura, did you ask your network heads why their attempt at a conservative daily show failed so hard??

Prism
Dec 22, 2007

yospos

I thought this was conservative comedy.

I mean, I'm laughing.

Feinne
Oct 9, 2007

When you fall, get right back up again.

Angry_Ed posted:

The only good conservative comedian/comic personality I can think of is Michael J. Nelson (MST3K/Rifftrax) and that probably is only because he's one of those "nice" Upper Midwest conservatives who doesn't spend every waking hour of the day visibly hating on people who aren't exactly like him.

It's probably helped him quite a bit that from every indication his friends and coworkers have always been a mix of the political spectrum, where conservatives really drove themselves crazy was curling up into their own rear end in lovely echo chambers.

Five Year Plan
Feb 18, 2009
I’ve read a couple P.J. O’Rourke books from the 80s and early 90s. They were pretty funny; that guy can write some colorful similes. I’ve heard he’s devolved into a conventional right-wing shithead these days, though...

BiggerBoat
Sep 26, 2007

Don't you tell me my business again.
Let's see how FOX is finally spinning Nunberg:

quote:

Sam Nunberg -- The very sad story of an instant media darling:

http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2018/03/06/sam-nunberg-very-sad-story-instant-media-darling.html

Hannity:

quote:

Hannity: Mainstream Media Exploited Sam Nunberg's 'Meltdown' to Attack Trump

http://insider.foxnews.com/2018/03/07/sean-hannity-monologue-mainstream-media-used-sam-nunbergs-meltdown-attack-trump

hahahaha.

also, an ethics lesson of all things from FOX NEws:

quote:

MSNBC, CNN blur journalism ethics lines with ‘irresponsible’ Sam Nunberg ‘scandal porn’ interviews

http://www.foxnews.com/entertainmen...interviews.html

Avirosb
Nov 21, 2016

Everyone makes pisstakes
It's about ethics in scandal porn journalism.

seiferguy
Jun 9, 2005

FLAWED
INTUITION



Toilet Rascal
Really, the most successful "conservative" comedy is South Park, that teaches you that making the world a better place is gayer than a gay orgy.

aware of dog
Nov 14, 2016
https://twitter.com/amconmag/status/971430279515537408?s=21
I remember when she was sent to a gulag for writing a lovely article

Angry_Ed
Mar 30, 2010




Grimey Drawer

seiferguy posted:

Really, the most successful "conservative" comedy is South Park, that teaches you that making the world a better place is gayer than a gay orgy.

I mean my metric here was "good" and not "successful". Jeff Dunham is probably successful but he's not good. And South Park's only good episodes are the ones where they don't disappear up their own Libertarian assholes telling us that both sides are the same and global warming is not real etc.

boner confessor
Apr 25, 2013

by R. Guyovich

Angry_Ed posted:

The only good conservative comedian/comic personality I can think of is Michael J. Nelson (MST3K/Rifftrax) and that probably is only because he's one of those "nice" Upper Midwest conservatives who doesn't spend every waking hour of the day visibly hating on people who aren't exactly like him.

mike nelson isn't a conservative comedian, he is a comedian first who has conservative politics

Lightning Knight
Feb 24, 2012

Pray for Answer

Angry_Ed posted:

I mean my metric here was "good" and not "successful". Jeff Dunham is probably successful but he's not good. And South Park's only good episodes are the ones where they don't disappear up their own Libertarian assholes telling us that both sides are the same and global warming is not real etc.

I dunno that I would characterize Jeff Dunham as conservative, at least not intentionally. He's more like incidentally conservative via being a white guy from the suburbs, and then he became more bitter and dickish when he got divorced.

Star Man
Jun 1, 2008

There's a star maaaaaan
Over the rainbow

Angry_Ed posted:

I mean my metric here was "good" and not "successful". Jeff Dunham is probably successful but he's not good. And South Park's only good episodes are the ones where they don't disappear up their own Libertarian assholes telling us that both sides are the same and global warming is not real etc.

"Mecha Streisand" was the best episode and got me to look into The Cure. That's the kind of South Park that I miss.

bird food bathtub
Aug 9, 2003

College Slice
Dennis Leary's stand up is the closest to good conservative humor I can imagine, because his bit was being an unrepentant rear end in a top hat (he's an asshoooole) you were supposed to hate and possibly live vicariously through while understanding he wasn't to be taken as a role model.

RareAcumen
Dec 28, 2012




The older I get (I'm only 23) the less bad I feel about not liking South Park when I was in Middle to High School like most of the people who I talked to. At this point all I know about any episodes is some weird poo poo with Mr. Garrison, the oh my god they killed Kenny gag, Cartman constantly giving Kyle poo poo about being 'a Jew', Randy saying friend of the family on Wheel of Fortune, smug because of using energy efficient cars, the safe space song, and Cartman shooting Token because he stepped over a circle he drew or something.

So, nothing that really drew me in, despite having low enough standards to enjoy Family Guy for years.

boner confessor
Apr 25, 2013

by R. Guyovich

RareAcumen posted:

The older I get (I'm only 23) the less bad I feel about not liking South Park when I was in Middle to High School

by the time you were in middle school south park was already a cliche. i'm a decade+ older than you and south park was hot stuff when i was in middle school

Lightning Knight
Feb 24, 2012

Pray for Answer

RareAcumen posted:

The older I get (I'm only 23) the less bad I feel about not liking South Park when I was in Middle to High School like most of the people who I talked to. At this point all I know about any episodes is some weird poo poo with Mr. Garrison, the oh my god they killed Kenny gag, Cartman constantly giving Kyle poo poo about being 'a Jew', Randy saying friend of the family on Wheel of Fortune, smug because of using energy efficient cars, the safe space song, and Cartman shooting Token because he stepped over a circle he drew or something.

So, nothing that really drew me in, despite having low enough standards to enjoy Family Guy for years.

I pretty much feel the same way as you. I found the "you killed Kenny!" type humor of South Park amusing, but the shock value "gently caress people who we don't deem normal" stuff never really appealed to me. There were individual episodes I thought were pretty ok but the show as a whole never grabbed me.

Chilichimp
Oct 24, 2006

TIE Adv xWampa

It wamp, and it stomp

Grimey Drawer

BiggerBoat posted:

Let's see how FOX is finally spinning Nunberg:


Hannity:


hahahaha.

also, an ethics lesson of all things from FOX NEws:

How long did they run the Seth Rich conspiracy on their headline editorial show after the source story had been debunked?

Groovelord Neato
Dec 6, 2014


there are some hilarious episodes but they're all non-political ones. usually cartman-centric. the butters show one is great too.

Corb3t
Jun 7, 2003

Here's a "conservative comedian who may or may not be clinically insane:

https://twitter.com/owenbenjamin
http://www.adirondackdailyenterprise.com/news/local-news/2018/03/comedian-rants-for-a-week-about-negative-reaction-to-racial-joke/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Jk0-Oyssuc

Corb3t fucked around with this message at 18:49 on Mar 7, 2018

Chilichimp
Oct 24, 2006

TIE Adv xWampa

It wamp, and it stomp

Grimey Drawer
There may not be a lot of "conservative" comedians but there are plenty of libertarian ones, which is basically the same thing but worse.

Dr. Arbitrary
Mar 15, 2006

Bleak Gremlin

Isn't "N* stole my bike" a joke from like 10 years ago? Make an original joke.

Corb3t
Jun 7, 2003

Dr. Arbitrary posted:

Isn't "N* stole my bike" a joke from like 10 years ago? Make an original joke.

Pretty much. He's pissed his lovely joke offended people while Chris Rock and Louis CK get away with saying the N-word all the time.

You're just not that funny, Owen.

BiggerBoat
Sep 26, 2007

Don't you tell me my business again.

Chilichimp posted:

How long did they run the Seth Rich conspiracy on their headline editorial show after the source story had been debunked?

I don't know and neither does their audience but I'd say 2 weeks.

Rush was in total projection and "accuse your enemy of what you're doing" Karl Rove mode today, for the 5 minutes I could tolerate listening to him. If you read a transcript of it and substituted "FOX" or "Hannity" for every "CNN", "MSNBC" it sounded like he was looking in a loving mirror.

The "liberal news anchors" are unhinged, predictable, flailing, desperate, have an agenda, are working together and totally lacking in credibility to the point that Rush knows what they're going to do and say before they do it. The entire lot of them. The only difference between them and Nunberg is that "Nunberg was drunk".

"CNN and MSNBC are comprised entirely of 'Nunbergs'". - an actual quote.

Fitting all that bullshit into the short span I listened to it was admittedly impressive, but the entire time I was doing my "rebut this in the car" schtick and was all "but enough about Sean Hannity, your show and FOX News" every time he uttered a sentence.

Hannity ought to be a hoot tonight now that they've had 24 hours to work out the spin and the discrediting.

BiggerBoat
Sep 26, 2007

Don't you tell me my business again.
I'd call Jerry Seinfeld and Bill Cosby "conservative comedians " in as much as they're all about "naughty words are bad" but, beyond that, I'm hard pressed to think of anyone "right wing" who is funny.

And why does this thread have a comedian derail every 2 or 3 months? Cue a Bill Maher take in 4, 3, 2, 1....

Rainbow Knight
Apr 19, 2006

We die.
We pray.
To live.
We serve

Because conservatives keep asking the same dumb question about why they can't be funny too :qq:

Which they'll never understand until they face the cold hard fact that conservatives are a dying breed and the only people who think it's funny to dunk on poor minorities are loving assholes.

The Muppets On PCP
Nov 13, 2016

by Fluffdaddy

Dr. Arbitrary posted:

Isn't "N* stole my bike" a joke from like 10 years ago? Make an original joke.

it's way older than that

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HootTheOwl
May 13, 2012

Hootin and shootin
Conservative humor exists, but it's usually mean-spirited and rude, which is why it then has to be wrapped in another layer of humor where we get to also laugh at the comedian. The reason why conservative humor doesn't work is because even if the joke works you feel bad for laughing at it and people don't watch a funny to feel bad. But if it changes from "lol, why can't we use racial slurs" to "lol, this idiot wants to use racial slurs" you don't feel bad even though the underlying joke was still about some slur doing a thing.

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