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Thanks Ants
May 21, 2004

#essereFerrari


I gotta wonder how much the screen locking thing is actually improving security. If you assume there's some sort of physical access control in place to prevent non-employees getting into the building in the first place, and to prevent employees from going into areas where they aren't meant to, and you also consider that somebody is going to notice if a person they've never met sits down at the computer of a colleague sat next to them, what does the workstation locking guard against? Everybody in a department leaving the room and the cleaner coming round? Maybe if a line manager is sat directly next to the people that report to them it would be an issue if they can see the contents of their mailbox.

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Bunni-kat
May 25, 2010

Service Desk B-b-bunny...
How can-ca-caaaaan I
help-p-p-p you?

Sickening posted:

I set ours to 5 minutes. The people who are going to police locked screens that closely are going to the kind of micro-managers I am not going to want to work with or for. A culture that encourages each other to mind their own loving business and staying off each others computers is more my jam. Deal with social issues when they pop up and then investigate if you need to.

I refuse to have a disciplinary meeting with an employee because he forgot to windows + L the day before and someone with nothing to better to do saw it.

I think it’s more the social engineering is the issue. Someone surfs in to the restricted space, waits for someone to walk away with their computer unlocked, and you’re hosed. And if you’re working with certain types of information then it’s really bad. So I can see being lovely like that in a proper situation.

Submarine Sandpaper
May 27, 2007


It's very much to prevent internal fuckery. Malicious people exist.

Judge Schnoopy
Nov 2, 2005

dont even TRY it, pal

Thanks Ants posted:

I gotta wonder how much the screen locking thing is actually improving security. If you assume there's some sort of physical access control in place to prevent non-employees getting into the building in the first place, and to prevent employees from going into areas where they aren't meant to, and you also consider that somebody is going to notice if a person they've never met sits down at the computer of a colleague sat next to them, what does the workstation locking guard against? Everybody in a department leaving the room and the cleaner coming round? Maybe if a line manager is sat directly next to the people that report to them it would be an issue if they can see the contents of their mailbox.

How many times have you sat down at a computer, as a legit IT person, and have been wholly unquestioned as you dug into settings / files / emails / applications?

Cause it's a lot for me, and with my days at an msp I didn't even work for any of those places. I was a stranger.

Though I absolutely agree if it's a security breach it needs to be stopped by automated systems instead of fellow employees acting as secret police.

skipdogg
Nov 29, 2004
Resident SRT-4 Expert

Submarine Sandpaper posted:

If I were to take a job in DT San Fran hows the commute etc from affordable areas?

The new thing is to fly in for work and fly home.

https://www.sfgate.com/news/article/San-Francisco-crazy-commute-nurse-Pennsylvania-12425117.php

http://www.ktvu.com/news/flying-to-work-cheaper-than-living-in-the-bay-area-for-some

http://www.bbc.com/capital/story/20170712-the-man-who-takes-a-plane-to-work-every-day

The Fool
Oct 16, 2003


The only time my presence was ever questioned was when I did a tsa contract, and then my badge was checked and I was escorted everywhere.


Only other place I’ve been that has had equivalent security was a Pearson vue testing center.

SeaborneClink
Aug 27, 2010

MAWP... MAWP!

Intel still runs daily shuttles between Seattle & Portland and Portland and San Jose and has for years. I don't think it's that crazy :shrug:

Bald Stalin
Jul 11, 2004

Our posts

SeaborneClink posted:

Intel still runs daily shuttles between ... Portland and San Jose and has for years. I don't think it's that crazy :shrug:

Really? Portland to San Jose is a 10 hour drive.

Thanks Ants
May 21, 2004

#essereFerrari


I don't think they're driving

Hughmoris
Apr 21, 2007
Let's go to the abyss!
Work is now allowing my team to work from home a few days a week. Today was the first day. It is awfully quiet around here... almost too quiet. I could see how full-time WFH could get a bit lonely.

Bald Stalin
Jul 11, 2004

Our posts

Thanks Ants posted:

I don't think they're driving

Oh they're space shuttles.

Internet Explorer
Jun 1, 2005





MF_James
May 8, 2008
I CANNOT HANDLE BEING CALLED OUT ON MY DUMBASS OPINIONS ABOUT ANTI-VIRUS AND SECURITY. I REALLY LIKE TO THINK THAT I KNOW THINGS HERE

INSTEAD I AM GOING TO WHINE ABOUT IT IN OTHER THREADS SO MY OPINION CAN FEEL VALIDATED IN AN ECHO CHAMBER I LIKE

Our 3 VM hosts stopped backing up on 2/20, our T2 has been sitting on the tickets, one guy in particular that is, frankly, an idiot, he came and asked me dumb questions about it today which is how I found out. Took me 30 minutes to figure out the problem, I'm fixing it now, but I don't know why it happened.

The allocation to shadowstorage just disappeared mysteriously, no eventlog errors nothing; our backup program updated that day, no other changes made, so I assume it did something stupid but I don't know how or why, it's a loving mystery.

Sprechensiesexy
Dec 26, 2010

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

hatelull posted:

Why would they not just policy or automate that screen-lock nonsense, rather than bait users into disciplinary action?


1. Welcome to ISO27001 where this is a box that needs to be ticked.
2. The quickest way to have people change their behaviour and be aware of why they need to change it is through pain, fear and suffering. What I am saying is you need to torture your end users.

Docjowles
Apr 9, 2009


Congrats, SF. You've successfully dragged yourself down to third world living conditions. A shared bedroom with no kitchen or bathroom in a converted parking garage, lmao

LochNessMonster posted:

Interviewing at a Debian shop next week. I’ve always used Red Hat. Any tips on the major differences and possible trick questions the interviewers might throw at me?

This should probably be taken to the Linux thread. But quickly, unless they are going to be giant dicks about minutiae, the differences are trivial. On Debian, you're dealing in deb packages instead of rpm, and managing them via apt instead of yum. Some poo poo under /etc is in different places, like network interface definitions and /etc/default is used instead of /etc/sysconfig for some reason. That is the entire set of differences I can come up with off the top of my head. I'm sure there are others, but it's not like Linux vs Windows or even Linux vs BSD.

On modern versions they're both going to be running systemd, which is nice.

Methanar
Sep 26, 2013

by the sex ghost

*calculates environmental impact*

nullfunction
Jan 24, 2005

Nap Ghost
RE: interview question chat a few pages ago...

Coworker dropped this bomb as an interview question today:

"If you could describe yourself using one hashtag, what would it be?"

CLAM DOWN
Feb 13, 2007




nullfunction posted:

RE: interview question chat a few pages ago...

Coworker dropped this bomb as an interview question today:

"If you could describe yourself using one hashtag, what would it be?"

#woke

Bunni-kat
May 25, 2010

Service Desk B-b-bunny...
How can-ca-caaaaan I
help-p-p-p you?

nullfunction posted:

RE: interview question chat a few pages ago...

Coworker dropped this bomb as an interview question today:

"If you could describe yourself using one hashtag, what would it be?"

#fuckhastags

Vulture Culture
Jul 14, 2003

I was never enjoying it. I only eat it for the nutrients.

nullfunction posted:

RE: interview question chat a few pages ago...

Coworker dropped this bomb as an interview question today:

"If you could describe yourself using one hashtag, what would it be?"
#brands

Vargatron
Apr 19, 2008

MRAZZLE DAZZLE


nullfunction posted:

RE: interview question chat a few pages ago...

Coworker dropped this bomb as an interview question today:

"If you could describe yourself using one hashtag, what would it be?"

#TYBG

Methanar
Sep 26, 2013

by the sex ghost

nullfunction posted:

RE: interview question chat a few pages ago...

Coworker dropped this bomb as an interview question today:

"If you could describe yourself using one hashtag, what would it be?"

#tidepodchallenge

jaegerx
Sep 10, 2012

Maybe this post will get me on your ignore list!


nullfunction posted:

RE: interview question chat a few pages ago...

Coworker dropped this bomb as an interview question today:

"If you could describe yourself using one hashtag, what would it be?"

#annoyed911wasaninsidejob

Squatch Ambassador
Nov 12, 2008

What? Never seen a shaved Squatch before?
#numbersign

Mr. Fix It
Oct 26, 2000

💀ayyy💀


#FTGE or #FullyAutomatedLuxuryGaySpaceCommunism

Dr. Arbitrary
Mar 15, 2006

Bleak Gremlin
#octothorp

Methanar
Sep 26, 2013

by the sex ghost
#DGCF

The Fool
Oct 16, 2003


CloFan
Nov 6, 2004

I tried to make #AllHailOctothorp a thing on Instagram, it didn't really take off

Bald Stalin
Jul 11, 2004

Our posts
We ask our technician interviewees to draw a bicycle with hashtags.

Mr. Fix It
Oct 26, 2000

💀ayyy💀


Ranter posted:

We ask our technician interviewees to draw a bicycle with hashtags.

kensei
Dec 27, 2007

He has come home, where he belongs. The Ancient Mariner returns to lead his first team to glory, forever and ever. Amen!


#boss

22 Eargesplitten
Oct 10, 2010



Ranter posted:

We ask our technician interviewees to draw a bicycle with hashtags.

How many people have written out "A Bicycle" making the letters out of hashtags?

rafikki
Mar 8, 2008

I see what you did there. (It's pretty easy, since ducks have a field of vision spanning 340 degrees.)

~SMcD


https://gizmodo.com/new-york-times-issues-correction-after-editor-fails-to-1823587138

If only it was cloud2butt

Weaponized Autism
Mar 26, 2006

All aboard the Gravy train!
Hair Elf

Best quote:

quote:

We asked Eric Bailey, the creator of “Millennials to Snake People,” if he had anything to say about his work making it into the Grey Lady. “Computers were a mistake,” he replied.

LochNessMonster
Feb 3, 2005

I need about three fitty


Sprechensiesexy posted:

Sounds like detachering. How did your no raise boss respond to your resignation?

It is 'detachering' indeed. I used to do multi-year assignments at financial institutions but I'm moving to a company that mostly has clients in other industries. I'm kinda done with finance (slow, hierarchical and process minded) and would like to work in a somewhat more dynamic environment.

My boss was completely flabbergasted. He had no idea I was even thinking about quitting. He said he'd try to talk me out of it but I was convincing enough to make sure that I wouldn't change my mind but mentioned I was always welcome to come back and he was sad to see me leave. He told me about the plans he had for me and wished I'd stay but respects my decision. Not sure how much is true and how much isn't. I was a bit surprised because I kind of expected a standard "ok, goodbye" reaction. Apparently they valued me more than they'd let me know but if that's true then they were purposely lowballing me which is a pretty bad sign on it's own.

Sepist
Dec 26, 2005

FUCK BITCHES, ROUTE PACKETS

Gravy Boat 2k
I have this really cool project I was assigned, I'm not even sure how we managed to secure it. Customer wants to create an autoscaling transit VPC in AWS using Palo Alto firewalls. Basically using Cloudformation, Lambda, and Cloudwatch to monitor metrics and deploy a new firewall into an ELB automatically. Pretty cool poo poo, I know nothing about it though since I've never done such a thing. It's either going to be fabulous or go horrifically wrong. Either way, good resume fodder

Agrikk
Oct 17, 2003

Take care with that! We have not fully ascertained its function, and the ticking is accelerating.

Sepist posted:

I have this really cool project I was assigned, I'm not even sure how we managed to secure it. Customer wants to create an autoscaling transit VPC in AWS using Palo Alto firewalls. Basically using Cloudformation, Lambda, and Cloudwatch to monitor metrics and deploy a new firewall into an ELB automatically. Pretty cool poo poo, I know nothing about it though since I've never done such a thing. It's either going to be fabulous or go horrifically wrong. Either way, good resume fodder

I would love to know the use case for this. A transit VPC stuffed full of firewalls? Why?

Sepist
Dec 26, 2005

FUCK BITCHES, ROUTE PACKETS

Gravy Boat 2k
They provide managed cybersecurity. They decided on this design internally, then shopped the professional services.

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Kashuno
Oct 9, 2012

Where the hell is my SWORD?
Grimey Drawer
gotta say, the folks behind the fake Office 365 login pages are getting pretty good. Get people to log into O365, set up rules that fire off the phishing link to everyone in their contacts, and set up a rule to delete any emails coming back in while sending a 'no this isn't spam' response to anyone replying to the phishing email.

I just wish 4 people didn't get owned by that in my office today.

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