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Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

(and can't post for 19 days!)

nopantsjack posted:

the whole "liberal free markets" thing is just code for smashing up a country and robbing it, so not particularly different from the last few thousand years of imperialism
they actually don't care/want, say, iran to become like the US, they want it's institutions to be so weak it can't stand in the way of corporate exploitation and asset stripping (wait actually that would make it more like the US)

that the propaganda portrays this as a modernising, civilising effort is also not remotely new

The real innovation of neocolonialism is a recognition that capital value is all that matters, and nominal sovereignty is a mere formality.

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Wraith of J.O.I.
Jan 25, 2012


a column by Brett Stevens

https://twitter.com/pareene/status/971121941645086721

Main Paineframe
Oct 27, 2010

if climate change is real, how come the captains of industry haven't taken its impact into account when setting prices on the free market? owned, libs:smuggo:

StashAugustine
Mar 24, 2013

Do not trust in hope- it will betray you! Only faith and hatred sustain.

Main Paineframe posted:

she's the writer who said in a Jewish newspaper that Jews should befriend neo-Nazis

https://forward.com/opinion/380510/we-need-to-start-befriending-neo-nazis/

ignorant take: this is what you get when you realize that alienation is breeding right-wing extremism but are incapable of thinking of any other solution than individualism

Wraith of J.O.I.
Jan 25, 2012


i wonder if liz wrote this after seeing that james bennett quote about how th nyt op ed page is pro capitalism

https://twitter.com/washingtonpost/status/971138646647681024

quote:

Capitalism is an ideology that is far more encompassing than it admits, and one that turns every relationship into a calculable exchange. Bodies, time, energy, creativity, love — all become commodities to be priced and sold. Alienation reigns. There is no room for sustained contemplation and little interest in public morality; everything collapses down to the level of the atomized individual.

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer
lol cnn

https://twitter.com/nycsouthpaw/sta...%3D4056%23pti40

Dmitri-9
Nov 30, 2004

There's something really sexy about Scrooge McDuck. I love Uncle Scrooge.

Main Paineframe posted:

if climate change is real, how come the captains of industry haven't taken its impact into account when setting prices on the free market? owned, libs:smuggo:

Brett is right we need a carbon tax to capture these negative externalities.

https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/exxon-knew-about-climate-change-almost-40-years-ago/

fabergay egg
Mar 1, 2012

it's not a rhetorical question, for politely saying 'you are an idiot, you don't know what you are talking about'


actually, all ExxonMobil executives,current and former should be extradited to the Hague for trial and execution, hth

pospysyl
Nov 10, 2012



Main Paineframe posted:

if climate change is real, how come the captains of industry haven't taken its impact into account when setting prices on the free market? owned, libs:smuggo:

Maybe :thejoke:, but that's not really Bret Stephens, it's Brett Stevens.

H.P. Hovercraft
Jan 12, 2004

one thing a computer can do that most humans can't is be sealed up in a cardboard box and sit in a warehouse
Slippery Tilde
https://twitter.com/kath_krueger/status/971507611538518016

Jerry Manderbilt
May 31, 2012

No matter how much paperwork I process, it never goes away. It only increases.
https://twitter.com/HonoredSpirit/status/971513721783836673

she's so gullible, so bad at this poo poo and yet she's not getting fired anytime soon

Nebakenezzer
Sep 13, 2005

The Mote in God's Eye


Trolling as an editorial strategy, you say

Cerebral Bore
Apr 21, 2010


Fun Shoe
I mean, at least it's just some real pathetic self-pity instead of whining about people standing up to the actual fash. Half a step up, if you will.

Wraith of J.O.I.
Jan 25, 2012


first they came for the six figure salary op ed columnists......

Wraith of J.O.I.
Jan 25, 2012


https://twitter.com/thetomzone/status/971524137960255489

Wraith of J.O.I.
Jan 25, 2012


ok sorry for the spam but LMAO bari got called out by a senator for her dumb lovely column hahahahahaha

https://twitter.com/brianschatz/status/971530149933010945

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

(and can't post for 19 days!)

Bari Edelweiss

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy
https://twitter.com/bariweiss/status/971556549645815809

https://twitter.com/bariweiss/status/971556738435633153

https://twitter.com/EoinHiggins_/status/971569860504444928

https://twitter.com/EoinHiggins_/status/971570421404438530

joepinetree
Apr 5, 2012
Weiss is so loving dishonest. Here's an article she wrote in 2015 about the professor she was just criticizing:

https://mosaicmagazine.com/response/2015/05/how-to-fight-anti-semitism-on-campus/?print


quote:

That such a bigot enjoys tenure at a university whose biggest donors include well-known and proud supporters of Israel is a wonder and a scandal. That scandal must be continually, insistently exposed.

Wraith of J.O.I.
Jan 25, 2012


joepinetree posted:

Weiss is so loving dishonest. Here's an article she wrote in 2015 about the professor she was just criticizing:

https://mosaicmagazine.com/response/2015/05/how-to-fight-anti-semitism-on-campus/?print

but you see, she doesn’t explicitly say he should be fired! why are you putting words in her mouth????

Wraith of J.O.I.
Jan 25, 2012


eh alex pareene said it better of course

https://twitter.com/pareene/status/971594889090748417

H.P. Hovercraft
Jan 12, 2004

one thing a computer can do that most humans can't is be sealed up in a cardboard box and sit in a warehouse
Slippery Tilde
the wailing jew dork times

joepinetree
Apr 5, 2012

Wraith of J.O.I. posted:

but you see, she doesn’t explicitly say he should be fired! why are you putting words in her mouth????

Well, she also admits that there was a campaign against granting him tenure:

quote:

Professors like Massad—who won tenure in 2009 despite the sustained and strong opposition of student whistleblowers, concerned alumni, and others—have turned untold numbers of naïve students into unwitting tools of anti-Semitism.

Though she doesn't claim that she was part of that opposition

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer
lmao. they absolutely got in touch to complain

https://twitter.com/nberlat/status/971537478938251266

quote:

Correction: An earlier draft of this piece stated that Friedersdorf and Hamid and Ioffe identify with Bari Weiss because she is their friend. It was meant metaphorically, but has been edited out to remove all ambiguity.

Jerry Manderbilt
May 31, 2012

No matter how much paperwork I process, it never goes away. It only increases.
it’s hilarious that bari weiss seems to hold her critics in such contempt that she thinks we’re all too stupid to keep receipts

but then again “contempt for audience” seems to be a running theme at the NYT at large

Diogenes of Sinope
Jul 10, 2008
https://twitter.com/megreenwell/status/971596910959235075

lol

Wraith of J.O.I.
Jan 25, 2012



wow look at this fascist calling for bari to be burned at the stake

A Gnarlacious Bro
Apr 25, 2007

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

H.P. Hovercraft posted:

the wailing jew dork times

Troy Queef
Jan 12, 2013




if between the Weiss poo poo and all the disgusting things said at AIPAC by nominal Democrats have not gotten you to ask serious questions about Zionist hegemony in the US, you need to think about it

H.P. Hovercraft
Jan 12, 2004

one thing a computer can do that most humans can't is be sealed up in a cardboard box and sit in a warehouse
Slippery Tilde
i hope he calls bari the n word

H.P. Hovercraft
Jan 12, 2004

one thing a computer can do that most humans can't is be sealed up in a cardboard box and sit in a warehouse
Slippery Tilde
https://twitter.com/Lubchansky/status/971817836745318400

Wraith of J.O.I.
Jan 25, 2012


this is very good

https://twitter.com/pareene/status/971804053016580097

quote:

I couldn’t agree more: If you think offensive speech shouldn’t be aired in certain contexts and venues, you don’t believe in free speech. Which is why it is incumbent on Weiss, and her bosses, to ask me to come to the offices of the New York Times and give a talk to the editors and columnists of the opinion page about how stupid they are.

It is absolutely necessary, for the sake of democratic ideals, that the staff attend my talk, and they must listen politely (and quietly) as I condescendingly dismiss their idiotic worldviews and personally insult them. They cannot yell at me or express indignation in any way. For them not to allow this to happen would be an alarming sign of the decline of liberalism in the West.

It’s not enough that I have the right to criticize Bari Weiss, James Bennet, and Bret Stephens here at the web publication I work for, or on Twitter, or really any other platform I have access to. The problem is that there is a platform I don’t have access to—the offices of the New York Times, specifically the opinion section—and, therefore, I have no way to personally and directly criticize the people I find objectionable. That is a clear-cut violation of the principle of open and lively democratic debate.

Wraith of J.O.I. has issued a correction as of 21:40 on Mar 8, 2018

Nebakenezzer
Sep 13, 2005

The Mote in God's Eye


Laffo

I'm so glad people realized how dumb this stand was and decided to troll them immediately

"It is our position that unless the NYT grants Kyoon a regular op-ed, they are destroying democratic discourse."

the bitcoin of weed
Nov 1, 2014

reminder that despite the incredible failure of the new york times, every other major paper is currently worse

https://twitter.com/andrewperezdc/status/971773075065856000?s=19

A Gnarlacious Bro
Apr 25, 2007

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

the bitcoin of weed posted:

reminder that despite the incredible failure of the new york times, every other major paper is currently worse

https://twitter.com/andrewperezdc/status/971773075065856000?s=19

Hahahahaha I love it

Prav
Oct 29, 2011

why did the heiling new york times hire a nazi

Wraith of J.O.I.
Jan 25, 2012


https://twitter.com/davidafrench/status/971852692736929792
https://twitter.com/bariweiss/status/971866339894800385

Taintrunner
Apr 10, 2017

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Prav posted:

why did the heiling new york times hire a nazi

very carefully

GalacticAcid
Apr 8, 2013

NEW YORK VALUES

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LoseHound
Nov 10, 2012

*r.l. stein voice* the spew york slimes

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