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MisterOblivious posted:Speaking of something different: How 'bout this Grixis Blitz list I saw at the shop? 1/1s and pump spells sounds awful, i'd rather just cast lava spike also what hellsau said, 3 colors is mad sketchy, you either can't hit you colors reliably or the majority of your lands come into play tapped
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Hellsau posted:card's broken wait, are you saying a card that is borderline restrictable in vintage and banned in legacy is good
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Elyv posted:wait, are you saying a card that is borderline restrictable in vintage and banned in legacy is good Gush is restricted in Vintage again because it's broken. Gitaxian Probe also probably should be banned in Legacy since it's just a dumb card. Not a whole lot of people are arguing that Gitaxian Probe eating a ban in Modern was a mistake.
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Anyone in Canada have suggestions for a place if I wanted to slowly start buying up full playsets of commons by set? Shipping seems to be the big barrier. So many eBay listings are charging $5+ in shipping for 70 cards. Kind of insane when I can get a barbell for weight lifting shipped free. Guess it’s a way to pad their profits. I kind of like the idea of throwing $20 per paycheque at buying a couple common sets online till I eventually end up with a huge play set for Pauper. I don’t have the time, money or interest to get back into real competitive formats but Pauper has me intrigued.
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BGrifter posted:Anyone in Canada have suggestions for a place if I wanted to slowly start buying up full playsets of commons by set? Local game stores or face to face games?
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Mezzanon posted:Local game stores or face to face games? Emailed our local game stores. Face to Face games looks perfect though.
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BGrifter posted:Anyone in Canada have suggestions for a place if I wanted to slowly start buying up full playsets of commons by set?
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If you're saying like "buy all the commons in Ixalan" or whatever when you say "playset by set" that sounds like a horrible idea. You would get so much unplayable chaff forever.
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Agreed, if you're thinking about playing Pauper, there's maybe a handful of commons per set you'd need and way more older commons that you'd need multiple playsets of. I'm building my first set of Pauper decks and I needed 12 Scoured Barrens.
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It’s less that I expect most of it to be playable and more that I’d enjoy collecting sets of commons from the sets I grew up with in the 90s. It’s a cheap way to relive a bit of my childhood. Obviously I could just buy four of the good cards and ignore the rest of most sets.
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Oh look who is the very first decklist on the mothership: https://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/mtgo-standings/pauper-constructed-league-2018-03-07
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CompeAnansi posted:Oh look who is the very first decklist on the mothership: https://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/mtgo-standings/pauper-constructed-league-2018-03-07 poo poo dude, congrats
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CompeAnansi posted:Oh look who is the very first decklist on the mothership: https://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/mtgo-standings/pauper-constructed-league-2018-03-07 Hell yeah buddy! Dinrova Tron sure is a deck.
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Have I ever mentioned how dumb it is that Wall of Omens and Wall of Blossoms are uncommon instead of common? Because it's real dumb.
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CompeAnansi posted:Oh look who is the very first decklist on the mothership: https://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/mtgo-standings/pauper-constructed-league-2018-03-07 Obviously they're ranking in descending order of greatness, I think I got like 5 trophies last week. The deck is good but I managed to time out for a second time last night against Elves because game 1 my actual bottom card was Compulsive Research and my second and third walls were in the three cards above it. I had locked them out at that point, but I had to bounce all their stuff and then Flicker Sea Gate 9 times to actually manufacture a kill, so I was behind on time 6 minutes to 9 minutes and was unable to put together a win in game 3 fast enough. Didn't help that my trigger targets would just fail repeatedly - I'd click Wall's trigger, click Flicker, and the trigger wouldn't go on the stack until I did it again. MTGO is a piece of poo poo is what I'm saying.
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CompeAnansi posted:Oh look who is the very first decklist on the mothership: https://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/mtgo-standings/pauper-constructed-league-2018-03-07 I like that the algorithm seems to have picked up 2 nearly identical mono U decks as different because one is running snow covered islands.
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uPen posted:I like that the algorithm seems to have picked up 2 nearly identical mono U decks as different because one is running snow covered islands. technically 20 cards different mate
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That Wall deck looks hilarious and I want to build it.
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Some Numbers posted:That Wall deck looks hilarious and I want to build it. It inspired me to make a Wall Pauper Commander deck. 
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Some Numbers posted:That Wall deck looks hilarious and I want to build it. Is the point to just generate mana and win with Invoker? I'd rather just poo poo out walls and win with Vent Sentinel activations
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80s James Hetfield posted:Is the point to just generate mana and win with Invoker? Generate mana and win by putting Freed from the Real on Axebane Guardian to instawin with Invoker, I think? Or what you said.
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Some Numbers posted:Generate mana and win by putting Freed from the Real on Axebane Guardian to instawin with Invoker, I think? Lost my league match to flicker tron in 3. At least I took a game off it.
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seriously go gently caress yourself mtgo 14 lands, 2 Maps, 1 Crop Rotation, 2 Prism, and 4 other spells in 23 cards? Come on.
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As Garfield intended.
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Hellsau posted:You're doomed. You have no maindeck counterspells and Ghostly Flicker kind of owns your primary game plan, he's got multiple counterspells, and Capsize will be enough to end the match, so game 1 is a lost cause. Your best bet would be to kill any Prisms on sight and hope to color screw him while somehow beating him to death before he finds a relevant spell. I don't even know what you could sideboard to make that matchup good enough to reliably win the match given how badly you'll lose game 1. That particular Tron build seems like it's built in such a way that you have the best chance against it, with only one Flicker, one Pulse, two Walls, two or three Pyroblasts, and a reasonable amount of removal, but after sideboard you get to take out the four Journeys and two Missionaries and bring in what, two Dispels two Counterspells and the Relic? Still missing a card to bring in, and even after sideboarding you have fewer counterspells than they do maindeck and they also get to bring in Pyroblast which is much better than any card you're bringing in. Relic isn't horrible since they only have one Flicker so you might get to eat it, but even without a Flicker loop they can just outdraw you, counter everything important and beat you to death with Mulldrifters or Rolling Thunder you. Maybe you can bring in Hydroblast only to counter opposing Pyroblasts or the Rolling Thunder? That's pretty sketchy and likely to make you wind up with dead cards in hand. Mezzanon posted:Lost my league match to flicker tron in 3. At least I took a game off it. Here's a longer version of the matchup for you Hellsau, it was closer than I was expecting. G1: Lose the die roll. I try to play smart knowing that I am hugely unfavored in this matchup, and I do pretty well. I spreading seas to keep my opponent off tron, and I try to get low level beats in and hope he doesn't get the flicker wall combo going. He lands it once and gets rid of a spreading seas on a tron land, but he still doesnt have tron, which allows me to make a sacrifice play with one of my reality acids to draw out countermagic so I can journey to nowhere his mnemonic wall. I eventually have to tap low to get him on a two turn clock, but he has tron online. I need to fade a single turn of him not drawing exactly Tower and having rolling thunder in hand. Opponent draws tower and has rolling thunder in hand and domes me for 15 while I am at 15. (my next turn play was going to be bounce crossroads so that I would not die) G2: I realize that keeping my opponent off blue is a fools errand so I have to try to outdraw my opponent and/or keep them off non-blue mana. So I spend this game keeping a spreading seas on a tron land, and throwing the rest at green lands/cascade bluffs. to keep my opponent off pulse of murasa. Opponent sticks a rainbow land and lands the stonehorn lock, but has absolutely zero pressure. This gives me a chance to evoke mulldrifter (with sac on the stack) momentary blink mulldrifter to draw 4. Opponent keeps the lock for 3 turns and I spend those 3 turns sculpting my hand and playing two power creatures. I finally make a move where I spreading seas a tron land (taking opponent off tron again) throw a reality acid into countermagic, play a second reality acid on his stonehorn, then bounce the acid, killing the dignitary. Opponent untaps and tries to pulse of murasa the stonehorn back and I have double dispel at the ready. Opponent tried to flame slash one of my attackers and I have the hydroblast and he scoops it up. G3: I mull to 6 and keep a 2 white land hand, and by the time i see a blue source my opponent can double capsize lol so I scoop it up.
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Went 2-1 today at my LGS' monthly pauper tournament on Affinity. 8 people showed up and everyone was on something different. M1: Mono U Delver - Lost game one to turn one Delver and piles and piles of countermagic backup. Ripped game two and three with giant Atogs getting Flinged. M2: Mono B Control - This was a bit of a mess, and I didn't have a solid sideboard for it. Game 1 I only got two creatures out, and they both got killed super quick. Game two I won by having an ATog be unblocked and flinging it after damage. Game three I lost to a Gary of the top. I had a solid board and was ready to go for the kill. It was pretty depressing. M3: RB Reanimator - First game pretty scary, having to sac my board except a frogmite to kill a turn 4 Ulamog's Crusher. I stabilized and ended up coming back for a win when they flooded out. Game two was a sweep with a turn 3 13/14 Atog into Fling. First time playing Affinity in Pauper, and it brought me way back into Mirrodin Standard. It was a blast annd I feel I could have done better against MonoB, but I was not at all prepared for it.
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MBC will beat Affinity a huge percentage of the time. It doesn't actually care about your 4/4s since it can kill them reasonably easily, and if they trade 1 for 1 enough times even your Atog doesn't cut it since they'll be at a high enough life total and you'll have few enough permanents that even an Atog+Fling won't be able to kill them. Also Chittering Rats can Time Walk you very easily.
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I have some questions about Burn, specifically, have people tried Scent of Cinder and if so, is it just really bad? Also, did something in the metagame shift to make Flame Rift less attractive?
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Scent of Cinder just seems bad to me, how often are you going to have it and 4 or more other non-land cards in your hand? It feels like a turn 2 play that's dead dead dead if you draw it later and doesn't have Martyr of Ashes upside of hosing aggressive decks.
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Some Numbers posted:I have some questions about Burn, specifically, have people tried Scent of Cinder and if so, is it just really bad? You should try to minimize the number of dead topdecks you include in a burn deck, because otherwise you tend to just fold if the opponent gains some life or counters some of your burn spells and you start drawing bad cards instead of just drawing another Bolt. Flame Rift makes your aggressive matches worse. I think one's fine but if you draw two against an aggro deck you stand a good chance of killing yourself before you kill them.
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Is Rift something you might include if you think there's a lot of control in your meta then, or just a thing you'd ignore altogether?
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Some Numbers posted:Is Rift something you might include if you think there's a lot of control in your meta then, or just a thing you'd ignore altogether? If there's a lot of control in your meta you want to include a bunch of instant-speed burn spells so that you can end-of-turn play three or four burn spells, untap and play four burn spells to overload their counterspells.
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okay seriously gently caress Delver of Secrets My UB control opponent opponent is playing Delver of Secrets in their Evincar's Justice deck. It might not be incorrect since a one mana 3/2 flier is kind of busted, but if the card is so powerful that people are playing it in the same deck as Evincar's Justice there's a problem. Also I'm writing a big effort post on Stonehorn Tron. Expect a wall of text soon.
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Hellsau posted:okay seriously gently caress Delver of Secrets I just bought all the cards to convert Murasa Tron to Stonehorn to run it next tournament. Excited about this! edit: also I think I lose to Delver more than any other card in Pauper, so busted.
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My lgs is going to start doing pauper events by the end of april, any good primers when starting out? I've never played constructed magic before, should I look up online to see what decks look cool? I'm really interested, and I already have a poo poo ton of unused commons.
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Kurtofan posted:My lgs is going to start doing pauper events by the end of april, any good primers when starting out? I've never played constructed magic before, should I look up online to see what decks look cool? If you've never played constructed before, it's very unlikely that you'll be able to build a competitive deck from what you have. That said, you should be able to use some, and decks are very inexpensive. Take a look at these and see if any strategies catch your eye and once you think you've found something, watch some youtube games.
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Kurtofan posted:My lgs is going to start doing pauper events by the end of april, any good primers when starting out? I've never played constructed magic before, should I look up online to see what decks look cool? UG Turbofog
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What's a good storage/transport solution for my set of decks?
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Wasn't there some Amazon brand camera bag that was ideal for deck boxes?
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Some Numbers posted:What's a good storage/transport solution for my set of decks? https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00CF5OGP8/?coliid=I33MR9B3Q6Q8MS&colid=16JH72XQDST3K&psc=1&ref_=lv_ov_lig_dp_it  note: this is from a reddit thread, I don't have one, I keep thinking about it but when I have $$ I just buy more cards...halp...
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