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Waltzing Along posted:The worst part of that is it is legislated morality which sucks. gently caress liberals. Pretty much no one other than fart sniffing rear end in a top hat libtards like the bag tax. Why can't we have legislated morality that actively hurts minorities, LGBTQ folk and those who are needlessly otherized because of pointless 200 year old social stigmas, like a good god-fearing conservative state? Legislated morality that is intended to help the planet is just wrong!
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FCKGW posted:mom is that you? I thought only my mom used phrases like that.
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Waltzing Along posted:The worst part of that is it is legislated morality which sucks. gently caress liberals. Pretty much no one other than fart sniffing rear end in a top hat libtards like the bag tax. FYI you are one of the idiots on the right
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For real though I voted for the bag tax and I thought it was a good idea. My ADHD just makes it hard for me to keep up with poo poo like that so the majority of non brain problems people probably do just fine with it.
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acksplode posted:FYI you are one of the idiots on the right Actually, no. I have views on both sides like any sane person. Party line politics is dumb as gently caress.
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Waltzing Along posted:Actually, no. I have views on both sides like any sane person. Party line politics is dumb as gently caress. Centrist and Right wing. Both sides.
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Of the many, many mistakes the politicians and voters have foisted on us, the Plastic Bag Ban and Tax is easily the most nefarious, hateful, and directed. No longer are Californians able to go to the store without wondering: Will this be it? Is it my time? I, too, have had this worry. Like many of those gathered here, I have bought groceries. I know, I know, we all have servants to do this, but I find a perverse pleasure in buying my own home goods. Who can hate the lovely can of Cambell's soup? The joyful Ziplock? The gregarious Pedigree Dog Chow? It was with these images in mind I went to the store to fulfill my addiction to plastic bags. As I gathered my hard won resources the worry crept in. I looked to my right hand and saw it held naught but a 24 rack of Bud Light Lime. I looked to my left and saw it grasping a single Hungry Man frozen dinner. Ignoring the growing terror in my throat I approached the cashier. Would this be my time of ending? With a detached mind, I saw them sweep my food across the scanner. I saw them look down the belt, then at me. I saw them mouth the words, those terrible words. I nodded. I paid. I am humiliated, a mere husk of what I had been. I knew then that the government had gone too far, that our freedoms had been curtailed. The divine right of kings had been abrogated and humanity now wanders in the dark, ready to die from whatever blow strikes us. When we banned the Bags, we banned ourselves.
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Waltzing Along posted:Actually, no. I have views on both sides like any sane person. Party line politics is dumb as gently caress.
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acksplode posted:Reactionary repulsion at being forced to pay for the externalities of your decisions is conservative, sorry Yeah, so? And being pro choice is liberal. I can do this all day.
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Admiral Ray posted:Of the many, many mistakes the politicians and voters have foisted on us, the Plastic Bag Ban and Tax is easily the most nefarious, hateful, and directed. No longer are Californians able to go to the store without wondering: Will this be it? Is it my time? I, too, have had this worry. Like many of those gathered here, I have bought groceries. I know, I know, we all have servants to do this, but I find a perverse pleasure in buying my own home goods. Who can hate the lovely can of Cambell's soup? The joyful Ziplock? The gregarious Pedigree Dog Chow? It was with these images in mind I went to the store to fulfill my addiction to plastic bags. As I gathered my hard won resources the worry crept in. I looked to my right hand and saw it held naught but a 24 rack of Bud Light Lime. I looked to my left and saw it grasping a single Hungry Man frozen dinner. Ignoring the growing terror in my throat I approached the cashier. Would this be my time of ending? With a detached mind, I saw them sweep my food across the scanner. I saw them look down the belt, then at me. I saw them mouth the words, those terrible words. I nodded. I paid. I am humiliated, a mere husk of what I had been. I knew then that the government had gone too far, that our freedoms had been curtailed. The divine right of kings had been abrogated and humanity now wanders in the dark, ready to die from whatever blow strikes us. I'm cheap enough that if I forget a bag I'll whip off my jacket and turn it into a sad lumpy kinda-bag thing but at least that way Big Bag won't see ONE GODDAMN DIME of my HARD EARNED MONEY
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Waltzing Along posted:Not in the 4 main metro areas. That's why I said Fresno. Seriously, Fresno is your best bet without huge prices. And that is probably going to change soon once people realize that it's the last place that is cheap and decent. midtown is overrated and overpriced tho
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"Socially liberal but economically conservative" is code word for "I am a piece of poo poo human being"
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Tuxedo Gin posted:"Socially liberal but economically conservative" is code word for "I am a piece of poo poo human being" I'm not economically conservative, either. I just hate the bag tax. I think it is the wrong way to go about getting people to conserve. See what I did there? Conserve. Punishing people is not the way to promote change. Reward people for bringing their own bags. You want to help the environment? Do massive ad campaigns about how much cattle farmer fucks things up across the globe along with how eating too much beef isn't healthy, either. But that won't happen because gotta eat hamburgers. And yes, I have put my money where my mouth is. I don't eat beef any more for that very reason.
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Mar 9, 2018 06:36
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Wow I don't think I ever bothered putting someone on ignore until now I like the plastic bag ban it's good
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The Wiggly Wizard posted:Wow I don't think I ever bothered putting someone on ignore until now Same. I think it's worth it to help the environment.
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Mar 9, 2018 06:48
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Voted for the bantax. Loved using the little bags for trash can liners, just get a megapack at Costco instead. We've got shitloads of plastic trash in the ocean, so whatever little bit prevents more plastic proliferation is good in my book.
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Waltzing Along posted:Punishing people is not the way to promote change. Reward people for bringing their own bags. No, it literally is. The org I work for did studies on this. The bag ban works great and most people just don’t think about it anymore.
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Mar 9, 2018 06:55
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*Sniff sniff* it's beginning to smell like a Facebook comments section in here. Besides,you can always just go to Costco, they still give you those big open boxes to put your groceries in. No need to worry about bags there.
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just go to ikea and get their blue tote bags. they’re cheaper than dirt, hold a ridiculous amount of poo poo, and are indestructible
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Mar 9, 2018 07:28
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The Aardvark posted:Zonies go home
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Grand Prize Winner posted:I'm cheap enough that if I forget a bag I'll whip off my jacket and turn it into a sad lumpy kinda-bag thing but at least that way Big Bag won't see ONE GODDAMN DIME of my HARD EARNED MONEY "Not today, motherfuckers" Grand Prize Winner could be heard to say, as he tucked his shirt into his belt line and dropped the remaining grocery items that wouldn't fit into the jacket through the neckhole of his t-shirt.
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Mar 9, 2018 08:25
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Watching people go to insane lengths to carry groceries without dropping ten cents on a bag is absolutely worth every hassle of the bag ban.
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Cicero posted:But we (meaning Californian cities I guess) are adding more trains. SF is building a new subway line, there's a BART extension going out to SJ, Caltrain is getting electrified so it can run more often, there's at least talk of a second tunnel between SF and the east bay. I had to leave way early yesterday but that's awesome! Last I had heard certain cities were dragging their feet on train options because it would allow transit to THE WRONG KIND OF PEOPLE. I'm going to be really happy to be able to BART to San Jose, the drive time even for a weekend event is prohibitive.
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Skyscraper posted:I had to leave way early yesterday but that's awesome! Last I had heard certain cities were dragging their feet on train options because it would allow transit to THE WRONG KIND OF PEOPLE. I'm going to be really happy to be able to BART to San Jose, the drive time even for a weekend event is prohibitive. The bay area really needs a regional housing + transit authority that can just override rear end in a top hat NIMBYs.
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LA is building light rail like crazy and will have a ton more public transit projects done by the time the Olympics roll around
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Waltzing Along posted:I'm not economically conservative, either. I just hate the bag tax. I think it is the wrong way to go about getting people to conserve. See what I did there? Conserve. Actually, providing direct and immediate consequences for behavior that needs to stop IS the way to promote change, per a kajillion psychological and public health studies. Your way makes people feel better about it, but doesn’t actually cause change on a large scale. This is why public health decisions in general often frustrate people, because on a micro level they make no goddamn sense or seem unfair, but on a macro level they effect change.
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Waltzing Along posted:The worst part of that is it is legislated morality which sucks. gently caress liberals. Pretty much no one other than fart sniffing rear end in a top hat libtards like the bag tax. lol go gently caress yourself, you are the worst kind of moron And being equally reactionary to both sides does not make you any less of a dumb shithead sorry
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lmao how loving dense do you have to be to equate legislating morality with environmentalism.
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Sydin posted:lmao how loving dense do you have to be to equate legislating morality with environmentalism. 
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Skyscraper posted:South Park sucked. that nail had a loving family
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Cup Runneth Over posted:We don't buy homes to live in in America, we just buy them to apply a fresh coat of paint and sell them now that they're worth more money. HI IM DAN SLDKFJSDJ, ILL TEACH YOU HOW TO FLLIIIIP HOUSES WITH OTHER PEOPLES CASSSSSHHHHHH!
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Have you seen my apex seals? I seem to have lost them.
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Waltzing Along posted:The worst part of that is it is legislated morality which sucks. gently caress liberals. Isn't this what conservatives do?
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my mom still refuses to buy reusable bags to so she can own the libs so she just ends up paying 80 cents more every time she shops and uses the thicker bags to put tiny dog poops in
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So I was reading this that explains why Sacremento is so relatively well integrated. Apparently it was due to making sure affordable housing is built throughout the entire city. But housing costs are now going up rapidly. Is this effecting how well integrated Sacremento is? ----------------
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FCKGW posted:my mom still refuses to buy reusable bags to so she can own the libs so she just ends up paying 80 cents more every time she shops and uses the thicker bags to put tiny dog poops in This is my complaint. The thicker bags suck at being poop bags so I end up buying special poops bags.
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Ron Jeremy posted:This is my complaint. The thicker bags suck at being poop bags so I end up buying special poops bags. the thicker bags aren't meant to be single-use disposable ya dingus
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punk rebel ecks posted:So I was reading this that explains why Sacremento is so relatively well integrated. Sacramento is not really popular with the white bland trustafarian east coast or midwest kids, but it's feeling more pressure from more actual middling class moving out of the bay. And really housing costs are still pretty low there, just not exactly pop places like midtown where bay refugees want to move.
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I had my eye on Winters (west of Sac) for awhile.
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Waltzing Along posted:I'm not economically conservative, either. I just hate the bag tax. I think it is the wrong way to go about getting people to conserve. See what I did there? Conserve. You’re dumb and wrong about politics, bags, Fresno, and roads. Why don’t you waltz along to another thread.
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