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Doggles
Apr 22, 2007

United is cutting bonuses and asking employees to enter a lottery for $100,000

quote:

Employees of United Airlines used to get quarterly bonuses if they hit certain performance targets. Now, they’ll all be entered into a lottery, out of which one—and only one—lucky person will win $100,000.

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ladron
Sep 15, 2007

eso es lo que es

they aren't going with a steel cage match? Eh, I guess a lottery is just as fair...

MisterOblivious
Mar 17, 2010

by sebmojo

Grand Prize Winner posted:

I played trumpet primarily because my dad and grandpa had played trumpet, and used the same trumpet they did. Just three generations of dudes mixing their spit together

Wanted to play trumpet, like my dad, and use his old one but there were 25 other trumpet players in the junior high band.

To give you an idea of just how loving ridiculous it was to have that many trumpet players: there were maybe 150 students in my (very rural) junior high, total.

I switched to tuba.

IIRC it was only a $25 a year rental. That covered a tuba at school, a tuba at home and a sousaphone for marching band. Didn't even pay for my own valve lube.

Funding Band, Orchestra, and Choir like most schools fund Sports is cool and good.

MisterOblivious has a new favorite as of 18:09 on Mar 4, 2018

Raldikuk
Apr 7, 2006

I'm bad with money and I want that meatball!

My favorite from this is that they'll be doing non monetary prizes like vacations and cars too! Enjoy your tax liability on this lovely vacation you won and oh sorry about the pto blackout over the days of it!

ladron
Sep 15, 2007

eso es lo que es

catholic school?

Carrion Luggage
Nov 24, 2006

ladron posted:

catholic school?

thats lube free, jesus doesnt allow lube

Krispy Wafer
Jul 26, 2002

I shouted out "Free the exposed 67"
But they stood on my hair and told me I was fat

Grimey Drawer
I'm going to defend Amazon instruments. They're not great, but middle school band isn't great either. If your kid is passionate about music, by all means get them the best instrument you can afford. If you kid is just fulfilling a requirement get the cheapest decent thing you can find and let the orchestra teacher deal with it.

I will say the trumpet my kid got works pretty well. But I didn't buy the cheapest or the second cheapest options either. 3rd cheapest is my sweet spot.

Grand Prize Winner posted:

I played trumpet primarily because my dad and grandpa had played trumpet, and used the same trumpet they did. Just three generations of dudes mixing their spit together

I'm pretty sure that's a Pornhub category.

Beachcomber
May 21, 2007

Another day in paradise.


Slippery Tilde

Carrion Luggage posted:

thats lube free, jesus doesnt allow lube


1 Samuel 10:1 posted:

Then Samuel took the flask of oil, poured it on his head, kissed him and said, "Has not the LORD anointed you a ruler over His inheritance?

Volcott
Mar 30, 2010

People paying American dollars to let other people know they didn't agree with someone's position on something is the lifeblood of these forums.
Can a non-musician tell the difference between a pro playing a student violin and that same guy playing a 20k model?

Pick
Jul 19, 2009
Nap Ghost

Volcott posted:

Can a non-musician tell the difference between a pro playing a student violin and that same guy playing a 20k model?

Yes.

FilthyImp
Sep 30, 2002

Anime Deviant

Volcott posted:

Can a non-musician tell the difference between a pro playing a student violin and that same guy playing a 20k model?

Maybe with an instrument that isn't as difficult to play as a Violin?

Krispy Wafer
Jul 26, 2002

I shouted out "Free the exposed 67"
But they stood on my hair and told me I was fat

Grimey Drawer

Can a non-musician hear that cheap violin in an orchestra of 50 kids all playing at the same time?

I had to sub as an orchestra teacher once and it was painful listening to the kids individually pick at their notes for most of the hour, but then all of them did it in unison and it gave me a little chill it sounded so good.

Krispy Wafer has a new favorite as of 20:43 on Mar 5, 2018

Acute Grill
Dec 9, 2011

Chomp
If a violinist plays in the forest and nobody's around to hear is he still bad?

Volcott
Mar 30, 2010

People paying American dollars to let other people know they didn't agree with someone's position on something is the lifeblood of these forums.
It's actually a cello.

Perspective trick.

Doggles
Apr 22, 2007

ladron posted:

they aren't going with a steel cage match? Eh, I guess a lottery is just as fair...

Looks like steel cage is back on the menu!

United Airlines Pauses Lottery for Bonuses After Employees Rebel Online

quote:

According to United’s latest earnings report, employees earned approximately $30 million in incentive payments for achieving operations performance goals in the fourth quarter ending in December, and approximately $87 million in earned bonuses in 2017. The report did not break out bonuses for executives and other workers.

The lottery system, with about $18 million in rewards per year available for rank-and-file workers, may have cost the company far less.

:thunk:
I think we can all accurately guess whether or not the executives were planning on giving up their bonuses to join the lottery system as well.

Plastic_Gargoyle
Aug 3, 2007

Doggles posted:

Looks like steel cage is back on the menu!

United Airlines Pauses Lottery for Bonuses After Employees Rebel Online


:thunk:
I think we can all accurately guess whether or not the executives were planning on giving up their bonuses to join the lottery system as well.

I immediately thought of the stupid magazine/candy sales that we occasionally had during elementary and middle school.

And someone thought that was a good model for an actual paid adult workforce

Rotten Red Rod
Mar 5, 2002

Plastic_Gargoyle posted:

I immediately thought of the stupid magazine/candy sales that we occasionally had during elementary and middle school.

And someone thought that was a good model for an actual paid adult workforce

I once sold a bunch of magazines in middle school, enough to earn a big reward.

The reward was that they gathered all the winners in the auditorium and spread a bunch of candy all over the floor. Then we each got to grab as much candy as we could while racing against other kids doing the same.

I never bothered with any of those sales ever again.

Doggles
Apr 22, 2007

Angry Birds maker Rovio closes London studio

quote:

Rovio's head of games, Wilhelm Taht, also resigned on Friday, leaving chief executive Kati Levoranta in charge.

The Finnish games company has warned that its brand licensing revenues could decline 40% this year.

Vegetable
Oct 22, 2010

Plastic_Gargoyle posted:

I immediately thought of the stupid magazine/candy sales that we occasionally had during elementary and middle school.

And someone thought that was a good model for an actual paid adult workforce
Lots of people buy the lottery, there's no reason a company should expect the idiot tax to fail among their not-highly-educated workforce

FlamingLiberal
Jan 18, 2009

Would you like to play a game?



The Angry Birds thing is long past now, I'm guessing that company gets bought out by a larger company.

ladron
Sep 15, 2007

eso es lo que es

FlamingLiberal posted:

The Angry Birds thing is long past now, I'm guessing that company gets bought out by a larger company.

but they milked the poo poo out of that property, I'm guessing they're not poor

Bloopsy
Jun 1, 2006

you have been visited by the Tasty Garlic Bread. you will be blessed by having good Garlic Bread in your life time, but only if you comment "ty garlic bread" in the thread below
Minnesotans tortured by the vacuum salesmen who just won't leave


quote:

The Better Business Bureau shows similar complaints. Though their public listings provide no names or locations, one man says two RG salesmen tried to sell his girlfriend a vacuum for $130, neglecting to mention that was only the downpayment on a $2,600 bill. Two hours into what was supposed to be a 20-minute demonstration, things became heated.

“At this point, I moved to the adjoining room, armed myself and prepared to call the police,” the man wrote. “Maybe the two heard me chamber a round, I'm not sure, but when I came back out, both of them were hurriedly gathering their things and soon exited my home.”

How is Kirby still in business? Who the hell wants to pay $2,600 for a vacuum?

Sic Semper Goon
Mar 1, 2015

Eu tu?

:zaurg:

Switchblade Switcharoo

Bloopsy posted:

Minnesotans tortured by the vacuum salesmen who just won't leave


How is Kirby still in business? Who the hell wants to pay $2,600 for a vacuum?

I imagine they make them for like $100, so if they sell one it makes them $2,500* profit. Much like telemarketing or spam email.

* = Disregarding other costs.

TKIY
Nov 6, 2012
Grimey Drawer
Kirby seems to have shills working the comments section too:

"Charley Behr King · UW-Superior Future Teachers Association

Love my Kirby. Thanks for the sales folks for coming out. Our Kirby was 15 years old and still worked well, but we upgraded anyway; even got a trade in offer. It is great to see people out there trying to make a living the old fashioned way. What a great way to get young folks out among the public and work. If people are leary, ask for I'D and the contact info for the company to verify legimacy of sales people."

ladron
Sep 15, 2007

eso es lo que es

TKIY posted:

Kirby seems to have shills working the comments section too:

"Charley Behr King · UW-Superior Future Teachers Association

Love my Kirby. Thanks for the sales folks for coming out. Our Kirby was 15 years old and still worked well, but we upgraded anyway; even got a trade in offer. It is great to see people out there trying to make a living the old fashioned way. What a great way to get young folks out among the public and work. If people are leary, ask for I'D and the contact info for the company to verify legimacy of sales people."

"I am also 70 years old and going outside scares me"

Haifisch
Nov 13, 2010

Objection! I object! That was... objectionable!



Taco Defender

TKIY posted:

Kirby seems to have shills working the comments section too:

"Charley Behr King · UW-Superior Future Teachers Association

Love my Kirby. Thanks for the sales folks for coming out. Our Kirby was 15 years old and still worked well, but we upgraded anyway; even got a trade in offer. It is great to see people out there trying to make a living the old fashioned way. What a great way to get young folks out among the public and work. If people are leary, ask for I'D and the contact info for the company to verify legimacy of sales people."
It's not even that great of a shill if you think about it for two seconds. "Our old vaccuum worked just fine, but the salesman talked us into buying a new one. I have no idea why people hate door-to-door salespeople so much."

Rotten Red Rod
Mar 5, 2002

TKIY posted:

Kirby seems to have shills working the comments section too:

"Charley Behr King · UW-Superior Future Teachers Association

Love my Kirby. Thanks for the sales folks for coming out. Our Kirby was 15 years old and still worked well, but we upgraded anyway; even got a trade in offer. It is great to see people out there trying to make a living the old fashioned way. What a great way to get young folks out among the public and work. If people are leary, ask for I'D and the contact info for the company to verify legimacy of sales people."

Haha as if being a door-to-door salesman hasn't ALWAYS been a soul-crushing experience that has only gotten worse and scammier over the years.

Irradiation
Sep 14, 2005

I understand your frustration.

Volcott posted:

Can a non-musician tell the difference between a pro playing a student violin and that same guy playing a 20k model?

It will depend on how crappy the instrument is but many bad musicians blame their gear for their poo poo sound while here's Joe Satriani playing on less than probably $300 of really low end equipment.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D9v5e1TTwts

Bloopsy posted:

Minnesotans tortured by the vacuum salesmen who just won't leave


How is Kirby still in business? Who the hell wants to pay $2,600 for a vacuum?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JeoHK1RZnqA

Ofecks
May 4, 2009

A portly feline wizard waddles forth, muttering something about conjured food.


Ok, internet press, you can stop that poo poo now. A more accurate word would be "harassed", "bothered", "annoyed", not loving tortured jesus. The mental image this headline gave me wasn't pretty. :gonk:

Carrion Luggage
Nov 24, 2006

if guns were illegal how would this man protect his dirty carpet?


also in 2018 who still has carpet? it is gross

Grand Prize Winner
Feb 19, 2007


Carrion Luggage posted:

also in 2018 who still has carpet? it is gross

All these idiots are getting rid of their carpet and here i am positively swimming in lightly-used carpets. I'm gonna be the carpet king of the Los Angeles Wasteland

Haifisch
Nov 13, 2010

Objection! I object! That was... objectionable!



Taco Defender

Grand Prize Winner posted:

All these idiots are getting rid of their carpet and here i am positively swimming in lightly-used carpets. I'm gonna be the carpet king of the Los Angeles Wasteland
That's just called 'being a landlord.'

Doggles
Apr 22, 2007

Bankrupt Toys R Us may sell assets and close all U.S. stores

quote:

Toys R Us Inc. is making preparations for a liquidation of its bankrupt U.S. operations after so far failing to find a buyer or reach a debt restructuring deal with lenders, according to people familiar with the matter.

Sir Lemming
Jan 27, 2009

It's a piece of JUNK!

Aw yeah here we go, gonna find a liquidation sale and buy all my son's birthday presents for the next 10 years

Gorson
Aug 29, 2014

I knew a guy who sold Kirby's until he couldn't live with himself. The whole thing is a scam. They are good vacuums, but there's maybe $100 in cost in them. The company has a bare minimum that you can sell them for, and at that price all the profit goes to the company and the salesman gets nothing. It was something like $600. Anything above and beyond that went to the salesman. So of course you're going to have some predatory poo poo going on. All of the people buying Kirby's for more than $2000 could have saved about $1700 just by leaving the house, going to a store, and buying the best model they have.

Ofecks
May 4, 2009

A portly feline wizard waddles forth, muttering something about conjured food.

Wait a vacuum called Kirby? Apparently it's not the case but I want to believe the Nintendo employees had one in the office when designing that first game. It's a pretty funny coincidence.

Inspector Gesicht
Oct 26, 2012

500 Zeus a body.


Nintendo's lawyer in the Universal/Donkey Kong suit had the surname "Kirby".

ladron
Sep 15, 2007

eso es lo que es

Gorson posted:

I knew a guy who sold Kirby's until he couldn't live with himself. The whole thing is a scam. They are good vacuums, but there's maybe $100 in cost in them. The company has a bare minimum that you can sell them for, and at that price all the profit goes to the company and the salesman gets nothing. It was something like $600. Anything above and beyond that went to the salesman. So of course you're going to have some predatory poo poo going on. All of the people buying Kirby's for more than $2000 could have saved about $1700 just by leaving the house, going to a store, and buying the best model they have.

whoa whoa whoa, slow down there mr. anarchy in the uk

TurboTax
Oct 9, 2012
Kirby vacuums seem like they could in theory be the Viking or the Sub-Zero of vacuums—the vintage look, the lack of more than one model at a time, the fact that they're all made in America (at least according to Wikipedia). But maybe there's already a brand or a couple brands that are aimed at the Viking/Sub-Zero demographic.

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FlamingLiberal
Jan 18, 2009

Would you like to play a game?



Oh hey, another victim of Bain Capital

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