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You can't remove the radar when your sound cues are absolute poo poo you gibbering retards oh my god!
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I'm fine with this change if they put shotguns back on elemental/secondary slot.
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Mar 9, 2018 18:59
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QuasiQuack posted:You can't remove the radar when your sound cues are absolute poo poo you gibbering retards oh my god! basically this the game isn't built for no radar with the lack of audio cues and an extremely tight FoV on consoles any benefit gained in terms of additional flanking by coordinated teams will be negated by the frustration of not being able to pick up where players are or chase them after they disengage
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Mar 9, 2018 19:22
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Well I was definitely wrong last night, https://twitter.com/Josh_Hamrick/status/971924473581457409 What classes have skills/exotics that give you the tracking perk? Is it just Hunters?
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Mar 9, 2018 19:23
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Chilichimp posted:I'm fine with this change if they put shotguns back on elemental/secondary slot. Oh that's just what we need invis hunters with permanent acrius ammo
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Mar 9, 2018 19:31
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texaholic posted:Well I was definitely wrong last night, lmao I'm excited for every hunter in comp to be running tracer or stomps Related point: I was reading reddit last night to see how the update was playing and someone made a really good point: for all the talk about "Balance" and the sandbox, we've gone 6 months with basically 3 guns accounting for well over 50% of all comp PvP kills. That's light years beyond the worst of the D1 metas. Even in the worst of the shotgun or HC metas i guess the most 3 guns ever got were about 37%, and that's ignoring the fact that those guns could be wildly different rolls (in some cases). It gets worse for D2 if you do the inverse of this process and lump Poz/Uriel/Number into a single gun (which they are under D1 rules). what the hell
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Mar 9, 2018 19:34
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also looking at the numbers the slightly different trials metas on PS4 and Xbone is extremely weird to me
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Mar 9, 2018 19:36
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actionjackson posted:Oh that's just what we need invis hunters with permanent acrius ammo run'n'gun with no loving radar would be so good!
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Mar 9, 2018 19:53
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shame you'd be the only one doing that while everyone else just hangs out behind a corner
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Mar 9, 2018 19:56
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Angry Walrus posted:shame you'd be the only one doing that while everyone else just hangs out behind a corner ah yes, the camping team shooter destiny is just banging on all cylinders rn
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Mar 9, 2018 20:23
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CheeseFactory posted:Origin Story and Cuboid are also good in that alot and rpm Peep the range on the iron banner one tho
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Mar 9, 2018 20:53
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IB auto feels like poo poo compared to uriels etc
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Mar 9, 2018 21:10
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actionjackson posted:IB auto feels like poo poo compared to uriels etc Yeah I'm coming to this conclusion. HCR is too strong (again).
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Mar 9, 2018 21:49
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3 hit melee is so bad
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Mar 9, 2018 21:51
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actionjackson posted:IB auto feels like poo poo compared to uriels etc Succinct version of what I stumbled to say several pages ago lol So what’s a game that has similar pvp as destiny but doesn’t suck as much?
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Mar 9, 2018 23:30
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yamdankee posted:Succinct version of what I stumbled to say several pages ago lol Destiny 1
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Mar 9, 2018 23:32
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Didn't The Division have a really bad launch and manage to turn things round entirely, and same for Rainbow Six: Siege? Bungie makes some huge fuckups and the playerbase is really small going by ABGD's posts, but those other games managed to turn things around from similar conditions. Then again, I don't think those Ubisoft teams have the same level of arrogance and stubbornness that Bungie does.
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Mar 9, 2018 23:48
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I'll have to take your guys' word for it on the arrogance part.
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Mar 9, 2018 23:53
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SUNKOS posted:Didn't The Division have a really bad launch and manage to turn things round entirely, and same for Rainbow Six: Siege? Bungie makes some huge fuckups and the playerbase is really small going by ABGD's posts, but those other games managed to turn things around from similar conditions. Then again, I don't think those Ubisoft teams have the same level of arrogance and stubbornness that Bungie does. They also update their games much faster than Bungie does.
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Mar 9, 2018 23:54
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SUNKOS posted:going by ABGD's posts ABGD posts about 10 times per page about how terrible destiny is which is an extremely healthy activity as apposed to maybe move on and play something else, of go outside for a bit. Either take with a huge pinch of salt or put on ignore.
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Mar 10, 2018 00:01
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I think the dude's just bummed to see something that could be really fun take a lot of wrong turns, and there's nothing wrong with sticking around to see if it gets better and he's clearly not alone in his views either. I agree with him on most of the stuff he raises, it's just surprising to see how low the player figures are when he posts them because I didn't think it was that bad, but then again everyone's obsessed with battle royale games right now it seems so maybe it would have suffered a big loss either ways?
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Mar 10, 2018 00:16
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A Buff Gay Dude posted:3 hit melee is so bad This is the thing that really got to me in the end. Strong melee has been a thing in Bungie stuff since Halo. I can see wanting to break from it but where they ended up is just... Boring
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Mar 10, 2018 00:18
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SUNKOS posted:I think the dude's just bummed to see something that could be really fun take a lot of wrong turns, and there's nothing wrong with sticking around to see if it gets better and he's clearly not alone in his views either. I agree with him on most of the stuff he raises, it's just surprising to see how low the player figures are when he posts them because I didn't think it was that bad, but then again everyone's obsessed with battle royale games right now it seems so maybe it would have suffered a big loss either ways? He's doing the "view things through a layer of cynicism and disdain to avoid becoming optimistic and then getting burned when things don't pan out" thing, which is hardly indefensible on its own but it passed the line into plain obnoxiousness a while ago.
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Mar 10, 2018 00:31
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Hell no ABGD is the prophet of doom we need
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Mar 10, 2018 00:34
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it does get a bit exhausting after a certain point. like if i wanted to read reddit i would read reddit
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Mar 10, 2018 00:36
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SUNKOS posted:I think the dude's just bummed to see something that could be really fun take a lot of wrong turns, and there's nothing wrong with sticking around to see if it gets better and he's clearly not alone in his views either. I agree with him on most of the stuff he raises, it's just surprising to see how low the player figures are when he posts them because I didn't think it was that bad, but then again everyone's obsessed with battle royale games right now it seems so maybe it would have suffered a big loss either ways? no he's literally self-professed mentally ill or something like that. Seriously don't worry about it, he'll be fine I'm sure
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Mar 10, 2018 00:37
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SUNKOS posted:Didn't The Division have a really bad launch and manage to turn things round entirely, and same for Rainbow Six: Siege? Bungie makes some huge fuckups and the playerbase is really small going by ABGD's posts, but those other games managed to turn things around from similar conditions. Then again, I don't think those Ubisoft teams have the same level of arrogance and stubbornness that Bungie does.
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Mar 10, 2018 00:46
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abgd would be a lot less tolerable if he wasnt right
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Mar 10, 2018 01:18
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SUNKOS posted:Didn't The Division have a really bad launch and manage to turn things round entirely, and same for Rainbow Six: Siege? Bungie makes some huge fuckups and the playerbase is really small going by ABGD's posts, but those other games managed to turn things around from similar conditions. Then again, I don't think those Ubisoft teams have the same level of arrogance and stubbornness that Bungie does. It's far too late in D2's life cycle to make the comeback that Division and R6 made. Which is really bad for bungie, cause if D2 and division were on life support, the plug was actively being pulled on R6 when the devs decided to get off their rear end and loving do something about their game. The key factor in both revivals is quite simple: They actually listened to user complaints and actively addressed them, something which bungie is loathe to do for some goddamn reason.
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I don't know how common it is, but Massive created their "Elite Task Force" of popular, and varied, twitch streamers to visit their HQ for a week to play test new patches. Probably a couple of months before release. They did this before every major patch, with a different test group each time. They had experienced players from pvp, pve, and console. This is how I think developers should embrace their community. Massive released a fun game that turned to poo poo real fast. They took their time to fix it. They've mostly earned their good faith back. Bungie has a lot of work to do.
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It wasn't just streamers and youtubers though, they also accepted applicants from anywhere. Lots of people with zero media presence. It wasn't just a public relations thing, they did like 12 hour workshops which was more talking and brainstorming than just playing the game. And it should be noted that massive's attitude was kinda lovely at first but they got wise pretty quick and learned from their mistakes faster then Bungie did.
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hitchensgoespop posted:ABGD posts about 10 times per page about how terrible destiny is which is an extremely healthy activity as apposed to maybe move on and play something else, of go outside for a bit. I have moved on and played other actually good games starting with D. It's not that much effort to come in here and clown on Bungie while taking a poo poo (I poo poo a lot!!)
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Also here's the thing: Bungie already did the whole "release a bad but exciting game and then fix it over the course of a few years" like the division and Diablo. But then Bungie did it again and way worse LMAO. That's insanely funny.
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Waffle House posted:no he's literally self-professed mentally ill or something like that. Seriously don't worry about it, he'll be fine I'm sure What
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Mar 10, 2018 02:32
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Dude, there's an edit button.
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Mar 10, 2018 03:32
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I just realized that all of the class roles that Destiny tries to gesture at feel so much better in The Division now that I'm dicking around in endgame. I got a gear set that lets me use a SMG with the riot shield instead of a handgun and some heal-on-kill stuff and you can just titan the gently caress out of everything. Just stomp towards every enemy you see and jam a half mag into their head and instantly get even tankier. There is no excuse for that.
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Mar 10, 2018 03:40
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drat this game is poo poo!
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Mar 10, 2018 04:22
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VJeff posted:Dude, there's an edit button. Triple Posting in this thread is kinda my thing
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SmallpoxJenkins posted:It's far too late in D2's life cycle to make the comeback that Division and R6 made. Nah, it's not that far gone. D1 had the same issues and house of wolves brought people back and there was a natural ebb until TTK came out. It's close though. Realistically they need to make sure the sandbox update coming out is a good one and that the may expansion does everything it says on the tin and more. They're going to get coverage when the expansion comes out, guys like Datto and other streamers are going to check it out, and the changes if they make the game fun to play and fun to watch will draw both an audience and a player base back. The problems are going to be if this sandbox and other update doesn't improve the game enough to make it fun and there's not enough incentive to play once you play the new raid sector a few of the new PVP maps. I like d2, it still has a lot of fun in it, but I think no trials radar is definitely a move in the wrong direction. Simply giving power more often is a move in the wrong direction. Buffing everything in PVE is great, buffing handcannons and pulses in PVP is great, buffing snipers is great, but I need to see numbers and see how it plays. Instead of 2 steps forward one step back this is update seems to be 10 steps forward and one big one back, but again I gotta see how it plays.
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Bungie nerfed destiny because a gay dude was buffing it.
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