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Collateral Damage posted:My favorites are the one that are ridiculously specific, like "It is illegal to sell peanuts in Lee County after sundown on Wednesdays." There's a story to that one, and I really wanna know it.
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Johnny Cash is underwhelming as a country musician. The majority of the stuff he recorded was disposable, he knew it, and the push for him as One of the Greats is a modern invention from the kinds of rock critics who don't want to actually have to listen to country music but still want to be able to claim that they do. If anyone else did his Rick Rubin output, we would have treated it as the Tony-Bennett-duet-with-Lady-Gaga that it was, but we gave Cash a pass because he had charisma. He was a good man though, I'll give him that, and "Hurt" is not overrated but perfectly rated. There were just better country musicians, is all. Tankies are absolutely incapable of any kind of governance, but all the people they want to kill have it coming, so I support their efforts because a bare earth is more just than whatever else we can manage. "Low-effort" contemporary art (I'm using "contemporary" as a generalization because this kind of stuff goes back at least a hundred years and through a lot of different movements) is as worthy of funding and being in museums and galleries as whatever people agree "real" art is, and 99% of people complaining that X isn't art don't care about art, they just like to talk some poo poo.
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Mar 9, 2018 17:00
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Straight White Shark posted:We were enforcing them at a less stringent level for the past couple decades and I liked the country we were just fine. What I was trying to say in admittedly a very drunk and confrontational way yesterday is that the fault should be placed on the lawmakers, not the enforcers. Laws like that shouldn't be laws anymore. If society wants a more compassionate immigration system, then we should vote in lawmakers to make that happen.
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Mar 9, 2018 21:28
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Collateral Damage posted:My favorites are the one that are ridiculously specific, like "It is illegal to sell peanuts in Lee County after sundown on Wednesdays." On the one hand, it makes me question the validity of these laws. On the other hand, I wonder about the story behind that law. What on earth did those peanuts do to Lee County?
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Mar 9, 2018 21:47
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That doesn't mean the individuals who sign up to steal drinking water from people in the middle of the desert, or to tear apart families, are not human garbage. They are carrying out orders, out of their own volition.
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yeah I eat rear end posted:What I was trying to say in admittedly a very drunk and confrontational way yesterday is that the fault should be placed on the lawmakers, not the enforcers. Laws like that shouldn't be laws anymore. If society wants a more compassionate immigration system, then we should vote in lawmakers to make that happen. I’m inclined to agree. I don’t think you should give a pass to those who follow unjust laws, but getting rid of those laws is probably going to be more effective
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Mar 9, 2018 21:49
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So are ICE agents drafted or just forced into it by lack of prospects and dire circumstances? If neither then gently caress ‘em. No sympathy. It’s liking weeping for soldiers who joined up in ‘06 because it is just their job to occupy Iraq. Except stupider because no joins ICE for college money and there aren’t ICE recruiters patrolling high schools and lying to teenagers. Same goes for cops, especially if they defend and/or are a “bad apple” It’s a position you don’t get unless you really want it.
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Mar 9, 2018 22:27
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The first time I heard of the ICE was when I saw the season finale of The Shield back when it was airing on TV. I had no idea such a department was even real and felt like it would be a huge waste of time in real life. I thought it was fictional like CTU on 24.
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Mar 9, 2018 22:31
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ICE does a lot of things that aren't just rounding up illegal immigrants. They aren't some evil SS-esque organization.
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It's looking more to me like your deference to authorities even when they're in the wrong comes from an urge to see yourself punished and corrected for your personal failures despite the endowments of your happenstance. What's less clear to me is what I'm to do with you, my sad little rear end eater.
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Mar 9, 2018 23:55
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yeah I eat rear end posted:ICE does a lot of things that aren't just rounding up illegal immigrants. They aren't some evil SS-esque organization. That’s true, they also deny them medical care while in custody.
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Mar 9, 2018 23:56
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So do cops and soldiers so I guess we should defend the shooting black kids and the abu ghraibs because it was their jobs.
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Mar 10, 2018 00:07
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If cops do a no-knock raid, you should be allowed to shoot them in self-defense. Not a joke, if a bunch of masked goons with guns break down your door with no warning, shooting them should obviously be legal self-defense.
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Mar 10, 2018 00:17
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Caufman posted:It's looking more to me like your deference to authorities even when they're in the wrong comes from an urge to see yourself punished and corrected for your personal failures despite the endowments of your happenstance. if I may offer a recommendation from my friend Judge Dredd: Double Whammy
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Mar 10, 2018 00:23
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Edgar Allen Ho posted:
I love when people use that phrase because it means the opposite of what they apparently think.
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Henchman of Santa posted:I love when people use that phrase because it means the opposite of what they apparently think. except for the person you're quoting
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Mar 10, 2018 00:30
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My PHUO: immigration laws exist hand-in-hand with trade agreements to attempt to keep workers where they are while capital can move freely across borders to achieve the cheapest possible labor conditions for the owners of capital. Everything else involved is a sideshow.
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Mar 10, 2018 00:35
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Elizabethan Error posted:except for the person you're quoting I'm agreeing with him
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gleebster posted:My PHUO: immigration laws exist hand-in-hand with trade agreements to attempt to keep workers where they are while capital can move freely across borders to achieve the cheapest possible labor conditions for the owners of capital. Everything else involved is a sideshow. Frankly yes, but then the people who actually make a voluntary choice to parasite on the system of transnational labour exploitation like YIEA are the ones who call for killing those immigrants who are mostly victims of circumstances on sight.
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Mar 10, 2018 01:00
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Henchman of Santa posted:I'm agreeing with him Yeah, it's a dumb phrase because the saying is "a bad apple spoils the bunch", ie bad cops spoil the whole force, but it's always used for copsas if to say "it is just one bad apple, don't throw out the whole bunch!" Idk who is even disagreeing!
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Caufman posted:What's less clear to me is what I'm to do with you, my sad little rear end eater. He doesn't even eat rear end IIRC, the name is accidental.
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Mar 10, 2018 17:20
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Bitching about jastiger was way more fun
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Mar 10, 2018 17:44
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Guy Goodbody posted:If cops do a no-knock raid, you should be allowed to shoot them in self-defense. Lol why does it matter if it's legal or illegal of you are going to get lit up either way? That's like saying suicide shouldn't be illegal.
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Mar 10, 2018 18:06
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Yeah, they probably aren't going to be able press charges on you if you're dead from taking a shot at a dozen armed men running at you.
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Mar 10, 2018 19:44
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Obviously one citizen won't do. See, we just need all citizens to live in Bundy-style armed compounds to make sure we can use our rights to defeat the feds. Is suicide actually illegal these days? You don't get charged for attempting and failing. Unless you're a train suicide somewhere like Belgium or Japan where its super common. Those fuckers will charge your next-of-kin for cleanup and timetable delays.
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Mar 10, 2018 20:09
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I always thought suicide was illegal so the cops would have a reason to enter a home if it was phoned in or something. I could be wrong, but the logic would at least track.
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Mar 10, 2018 20:13
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I don't know why it is actually illegal, but I believe all people are property of The State, and so The State has a vested interest in not allowing people to kill themselves.
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Aramek posted:I don't know why it is actually illegal, but I believe all people are property of The State, and so The State has a vested interest in not allowing people to kill themselves. This is why you have to become a sovereign citizen. The government can’t stop you from killing yourself if your name is ALL CAPS and there is/is not fringes on the flag outside of their precinct. Nerd content: none of the Next Generation Star Trek films were great, but of them, Insurrection and Generations were the most like what ST:TNG was. It’s easy to picture either as being part of the series. First Contact was fun, but pretty bog-standard action-adventure. Nemesis is what happens when you let a fanboy take the reins and basically have to bribe half your cast to do it at all.
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The opening murder scene in Nemesis is well done IMO. Also it's the only movie where Tom Hardy is understandable and doesn't grunt all his lines
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He is hilariously unintelligible in Peaky Blinders as Alfie Solomon, a Jewish gangster in 1920's London.
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Blue Moonlight posted:Nerd content: none of the Next Generation Star Trek films were great, but of them, Insurrection and Generations were the most like what ST:TNG was. It’s easy to picture either as being part of the series. PHUO the only star trek thing that isn't super boring and lame is the whale movie.
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Have you seen Deep Space Nine? It really goes into what happens when the Federation is forced to go beyond their comfort zone, and commits war crimes because the alternative is even worse, and the captain of the series also becomes a religious figure for an alien culture against his will and has to balance that role with his Starfleet duties. All this stuff plays out over 7 seasons, not 1 episode or a 2 parter.
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doverhog posted:Have you seen Deep Space Nine? It really goes into what happens when the Federation is forced to go beyond their comfort zone, and commits war crimes because the alternative is even worse, and the captain of the series also becomes a religious figure for an alien culture against his will and has to balance that role with his Starfleet duties. All this stuff plays out over 7 seasons, not 1 episode or a 2 parter. Deep Space Nine (aside from the new movies) is the only star trek I can enjoy. It still has way too much filler episodes though and every holodeck-based episode is awful. The dominion stuff was the best part, they just needed more of it.
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Mar 11, 2018 10:27
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There's like 50 episodes about the Dominion
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yeah I eat rear end posted:Deep Space Nine (aside from the new movies) is the only star trek I can enjoy. It still has way too much filler episodes though and every holodeck-based episode is awful. The episode where Garak and Bashir run around in a spy spoof is fantastic. PHUO: The Vic Fontaine episodes of DS9 are all great too.
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Mar 11, 2018 10:31
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Doctor Spaceman posted:PHUO: The Vic Fontaine episodes of DS9 are all great too. Vic Fontaine is maybe one of the best characters. I would hang out with him.
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Mar 11, 2018 10:37
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PC = Politically Correct MAC = More Actually Correct
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Mar 11, 2018 10:46
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Mu Zeta posted:There's like 50 episodes about the Dominion and each of the terrible vic fontaine episodes could have been another. It just seemed so goofy everyone was taking a AI lounge singer so seriously.
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Mar 11, 2018 10:54
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All the filler and holodeck episodes happened due to what the TV format was those days, you just had to have a bunch of episodes not directly tied to the story you were telling. What we have now is better but the old way also produced bunch of good stuff that would never have been made otherwise.
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My favorite filler episode is the Magnificent 7 remake with a bunch of Ferengi. It also guest starred Iggy Pop as the bad guy.
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