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appropriatemetaphor posted:I like doing Militarist/Egalitarian and giving everyone utopian living standards. Like we're conquering you for your own good and yes you will like it. But the factions I think tank it somehow? I forget but it was annoying. I love this kind of gameplay. Being maximum space Hitler is one thing but it's so much more satisfying to be a paternalistic despot who espouses democratic/humanistic ideals while maintaining a stranglehold on all of the actual power because the unwashed masses don't know what's good for them.
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I love to play stellaris https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S1mw2dwu1A0
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Mar 10, 2018 05:43
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I made an empire that uses slaves for the first time and my immediate neighbors are despoilers. It's a trip how different imperial empires play.
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Mar 10, 2018 05:46
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SmokaDustbowl posted:I love to play stellaris Why are Frankenstein's monster and Poe fighting and making popcorn this is insane. Also it almost sounds like everyone has an american accident or something. Absolute madness and I understand none of it but it feels very much like stellaris.
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Mar 10, 2018 07:39
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On ethos: they've gone from one of Berlin's two concepts of liberty to the other without considering whether it would be worth having them both in. Egalitarianism could be viewed as meaning everyone is free to participate in the running of the state, while individualism could be viewed as meaning the individual is unconstrained by the state. On this reading the Chinese state is something like Authoritarian Individualist inasmuch as they afford individuals economic freedoms. However, I'm not convinced there's actually a case for more ethos(es/i, delete by personal preference) until there's game mechanics to support them, as right now all empires are socialist utopias where the Government decides everything for you and chooses where all the mines go.
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Mar 10, 2018 08:14
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TheDeadlyShoe posted:Why on earth would you think missiles were anti-corvette? They have 30% tracking and corvettes can mount PD. Theoretically strike craft should be anti corvette but they do garbage tier damage according to battle reports. Because if they're not anti-corvette, what exactly are they for, given that torpedoes are better against large ships in nearly every way?
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Mar 10, 2018 08:16
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Any idea why I can't put my "post-imperium of man" dudes into colony ships? I enabled "colonization allowed" from species settings but still a no go. They got tundra preference so I'd like to colonize some planets with them.
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Mar 10, 2018 08:23
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Ms Adequate posted:I wish to inform you all that I love the Worm and the Worm loves me. I've got a game going where I colonized Zanaam and got the Worm Spiral mines and farms on it. Thank you, Space Worm. 
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Mar 10, 2018 08:27
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ZypherIM posted:...blackholes can get a +10 physics research,... Say what.  This is awesome news
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Mar 10, 2018 08:33
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appropriatemetaphor posted:I like doing Militarist/Egalitarian and giving everyone utopian living standards. Like we're conquering you for your own good and yes you will like it. But the factions I think tank it somehow? I forget but it was annoying. This is the main reason I miss Collectivism. I just wanna be Brave New World in space, but for some reason only Egalitarians can have the most splendid living conditions, and Authoritarians get pissy if you're not oppressing someone.
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Arrath posted:Say what. Don't get too excited just yet, it's a building rather than a module so you can only build one on the starbase. Granted it's a nice bonus if it's early on and you were going to put a starbase their anyway or you have spare capacity but it's nothing too impressive.
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Gobblecoque posted:Don't get too excited just yet, it's a building rather than a module so you can only build one on the starbase. Granted it's a nice bonus if it's early on and you were going to put a starbase their anyway or you have spare capacity but it's nothing too impressive. You have to build your anchorage starbases somewhere. The existence of that building makes black hole systems a pretty solid choice.
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Mar 10, 2018 08:57
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Jabor posted:You have to build your anchorage starbases somewhere. The existence of that building makes black hole systems a pretty solid choice. Yeah, this is a good point. And I may not be as much of a power gamer as you guys. Often when I'm deciding where to setup bases like this I won't yet have 100 in any given research category, so +10 goes a long way to dull the pain of plopping an outpost in an otherwise single-orbital resource system like a blackhole for the pretty borders. I mean, I assumed it was an exclusive building in the first place. Stacking 6 of them on a station would be a liiiiiittle much.
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Mar 10, 2018 09:15
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Black hole with the like science trader in orbit is pretty dope.
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Mar 10, 2018 09:26
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Zulily Zoetrope posted:This is the main reason I miss Collectivism. I just wanna be Brave New World in space, but for some reason only Egalitarians can have the most splendid living conditions, and Authoritarians get pissy if you're not oppressing someone.
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Mar 10, 2018 09:32
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Weirdly I think authoritarians are happy if you give everyone utopian standards but one species only gets welfare.
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Mar 10, 2018 09:38
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Okay, i've been playing with the new stuff a bit. I actually don't mind hyperlanes even though I was certain I would hate that. What's really loving me up is how expansion works. Did they add new ways to increase influence output? expansion is totally hosed, and I figure that's by design, but basically everything has changed and I dunno if I'm having less fun because i'm having to learn all brand new systems in a paradox game and i'll start liking it once i get used to it, or if I really absolutely hate how expansion and combat works now and i'll just have to put this game away for a while. I'm super depressed, i loved this game 
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Mar 10, 2018 09:42
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The primary way of gaining influence is still factions. Egalitarian civs are good at this, since the faction boots up fast and it's easy to make very happy. There is also a civic that increases influence gain, and other that reduce influence costs for some actions. There are also ways to decrease the influence cost of building outposts, like the Expansion tree or Xenophobe ethics.
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Mar 10, 2018 09:45
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Splicer posted:Uh, brave new world is caste system + chemical bliss. I guess, but Caste System slaves are unhappy. I want everyone to be hopped up on goofballs and having orgies daily, including the working class.
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Mar 10, 2018 09:51
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TheDeadlyShoe posted:The primary way of gaining influence is still factions. Egalitarian civs are good at this, since the faction boots up fast and it's easy to make very happy. christ almighty that loving sucks. I like to play as authoritarian spiritualist militarists. I'll try again tomorrow but I think I might be waiting for the next major release. Part of me just thinks i got way too used to the old way of doing things and i'm bucking at re-learning game mechanics that had become second nature, which was a ton of fun but i'm not gonna lie the midlate and late game had a lot of problems. if these changes mean a lovely early game leads to a better experience in the late game, i'll do my best to do it.
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Mar 10, 2018 09:53
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Err what's so hard about expanding early game? Like you can't cheese it anymore with the old style outposts?
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Mar 10, 2018 09:55
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basic hitler posted:christ almighty that loving sucks. I like to play as authoritarian spiritualist militarists. I'll try again tomorrow but I think I might be waiting for the next major release.
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Mar 10, 2018 10:05
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appropriatemetaphor posted:Err what's so hard about expanding early game? Like you can't cheese it anymore with the old style outposts? you don't see how having to plant outposts first to drop colonies slows expansion way the hell down even compared to the old way? unless i'm missing something the AI is like, cheating, as well. bad luck to get an agressively expanding neighbor because they outpace me just for hte fact i can't produce enough influence to expand to new systems half as fast as they can. my last game saw me basically boxed in within 30 minutes of play and it made me quit and come in here to bitch and whine
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Be conservative with influence spending, get a temple, prioritize planetary unification, go down Expansion first, get the -20% to starbase cost then go to town. Influence is limited but you dont have to spend it on leaders or anything anymore. Typically i'm more limited by my minerals than my influence in most games. The influence cost of expansion mostly restricts how much i can use Edicts. I'm not a particularly Wide player though. Militarist gives you cheaper influence cost on claims in wars as well as directly advantaging them, and Caste System means you should have pretty good early game mineral output, so consider taking systems the alternative way. TheDeadlyShoe fucked around with this message at 10:20 on Mar 10, 2018 |
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Zulily Zoetrope posted:I guess, but Caste System slaves are unhappy. I want everyone to be hopped up on goofballs and having orgies daily, including the working class. Move to Scandinavia.
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Mar 10, 2018 10:25
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Don't run any influence edicts, don't colonize any planets until the land rush is done, try and avoid "jumping" into systems not right next to your borders unless it's an absolutely critical chokepoint that's at immediate risk. Don't be afraid to leave holes once you've cut off all other empires from getting to a region of space. If you stick to those rules, you'll have plenty of influence for all the outposts you can afford mineral-wise in the early game, and then once you've run into other empires and your borders are settled you can backfill the holes and work on actually colonizing the planets you've claimed. If you've turned down the number of AI empires, you lengthen the "exploration" phase of the game, and that can definitely put you behind the eight ball if your empire doesn't have great influence generation. Play on the default density (or perhaps even higher).
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basic hitler posted:you don't see how having to plant outposts first to drop colonies slows expansion way the hell down even compared to the old way?
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The Wraith blundered into the same black hole where the Dimensional Horror was lurking. The only sad thing is that I wasnt around to watch.
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A major factor in early expansion is that you can get a ruler trait which signifiantly cuts outpost influence cost. I honestly am not sure how good that is because if you roll it it really advantages you at the start of the game.
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Thanks for the suggestions. I'm gonna slightly modify my species and try again with these tips in mind.
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Mar 10, 2018 10:59
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Restrained Crown Posse posted:Move to Scandinavia. I live here already! Which is why I think it's weird that a Swedish company put space socialism in the space amurika ethos!
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Synthbuttrange posted:The Wraith blundered into the same black hole where the Dimensional Horror was lurking. The only sad thing is that I wasnt around to watch. Now who's the dwamak 
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Mar 10, 2018 11:09
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 Also everyone else was too busy fighting each other to interfere with me just building a wall. 
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Wiz, hell of a job with 2.0. I hadn't touched Stellaris since Leviathans, but 2.0 makes the game feel more interesting and balanced than it's ever been. I picked up Utopia and am strongly considering catching up all the way on DLC.
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Mar 10, 2018 11:31
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Is there any way to declare a system "off-limits" for my military vessels. Really annoyed with my reinforcement corvettes entering the Dimensional-Horror slaughterhouse like lemmings 
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Mar 10, 2018 11:41
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Yes, go to the system view, the button to make the system restricted is at the bottom to the left of the system name.
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Baronjutter posted:Yeah the egalitarian factions in the real world are constantly loving pissed and enraged and protesting poo poo like that. It's almost like the governments have not decided to click "embrace faction" or realized they don't give a poo poo about the influence bonus. big, if true
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Corbeau posted:Wiz, hell of a job with 2.0. I hadn't touched Stellaris since Leviathans, but 2.0 makes the game feel more interesting and balanced than it's ever been. I picked up Utopia and am strongly considering catching up all the way on DLC. I agree, 2.0 is exactly what I hoped for.
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So I want to give a feudal empire a try any strategies for the early game and fun builds?
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Aethernet posted:Because if they're not anti-corvette, what exactly are they for, given that torpedoes are better against large ships in nearly every way? I'm surprised he was down on missiles (at least for early game), considering that missile spam on my starbase and defense platforms were what got me through early game aggression by enemy empires as a genocide robot.
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