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So I told a site to never ask to remember my password, and I've changed my mind. How can I reverse that and store that PW in the PW manager? 
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Mar 5, 2018 01:55
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Caganer posted:So I told a site to never ask to remember my password, and I've changed my mind. How can I reverse that and store that PW in the PW manager? Preferences > Privacy & Security > Browser Privacy > Forms & Passwords > Exceptions...
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Mar 5, 2018 02:33
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Caganer posted:So I told a site to never ask to remember my password, and I've changed my mind. How can I reverse that and store that PW in the PW manager? Get keepass
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Mar 5, 2018 02:41
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If the password is important enough to be remembered in the browser, then it is important enough to just be 1234. Anything more needs keepass .
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Mar 5, 2018 03:47
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iospace posted:Get keepass I do but I keep my low value stuff in the browser manager.
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Mar 5, 2018 06:31
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Volguus posted:If the password is important enough to be remembered in the browser, then it is important enough to just be 1234. Anything more needs keepass . Is Keepass the new password manager of choice? I can't recall which one had the major break-in a year or so back.
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Mar 5, 2018 18:33
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Mad Doctor Cthulhu posted:Is Keepass the new password manager of choice? I can't recall which one had the major break-in a year or so back. Keepass is great if you have a high tolerance for terrible UX.
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Mar 5, 2018 18:46
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Avenging Dentist posted:Keepass is great if you have a high tolerance for terrible UX. What's so terrible about it? It has a tree of categories and for each a list of credentials. Buttons on a toolbar to add/update/delete said credentials. Pretty much the only things needed. How else would one make the UI to present/manipulate this info? Oh, I know, an Electron app
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Mar 5, 2018 19:21
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Volguus posted:Oh, I know, an Electron app
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Mar 5, 2018 19:37
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There's a lot of things I tinker with and self-admin but 1password is something I gladly pay the asking price for.
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Mar 5, 2018 20:51
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Is there a good comprehensive comparison of the big-name password managers? I know I've seen a lot of back and forth on the forums about which this or that one being more or less secure/convenient/whatever than the others, but I can't recall the specifics and could use a good side-by-side breakdown.
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Mar 5, 2018 21:09
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Toast Museum posted:Is there a good comprehensive comparison of the big-name password managers? I know I've seen a lot of back and forth on the forums about which this or that one being more or less secure/convenient/whatever than the others, but I can't recall the specifics and could use a good side-by-side breakdown. Some are in the cloud and you pay for them (1pass, lastpass), some are applications running on your computer and are free (keepass). Personally I do not see the value of a cloud-based password manager, therefore even the low price of 1pass is not something that I care to pay. Keepass works for me just fine. And yes, that means that I cannot use various services where I have accounts from my phone and that is perfectly ok (desirable) for me. That's the extent of my knowledge.
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Mar 5, 2018 21:12
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Volguus posted:Some are in the cloud and you pay for them (1pass, lastpass), some are applications running on your computer and are free (keepass). Personally I do not see the value of a cloud-based password manager, therefore even the low price of 1pass is not something that I care to pay. Keepass works for me just fine. And yes, that means that I cannot use various services where I have accounts from my phone and that is perfectly ok (desirable) for me.
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Mar 5, 2018 21:32
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Volguus posted:What's so terrible about it? It has a tree of categories and for each a list of credentials. Buttons on a toolbar to add/update/delete said credentials. Pretty much the only things needed. How else would one make the UI to present/manipulate this info? Auto-type is probably the most glaring issue. It's really loving bad, and one of the reasons a lot of password managers have browser plugins (KeePass has some third-party ones, but none are all that great from what I've seen). Related to this, the fact that you can only have a single URL makes it harder for browser plugins to have good autofill (mainly, the problem here is SSO logins). A lot of the features are really obtuse too. For example, did you know that you can set tags on entries? You probably didn't unless you looked at all the submenus in an entry's context menu.
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Mar 5, 2018 21:43
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Yeah, KeePass has clients for pretty much any device. It has browser integration addons if you care for that thing, AND there is even a project that lets you access your database through a web browser so you can toss it on a VPS if you want (and it is electron based too so you can have your fancy RAM sucking electron version).
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Mar 5, 2018 22:10
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Avenging Dentist posted:Related to this, the fact that you can only have a single URL makes it harder for browser plugins to have good autofill (mainly, the problem here is SSO logins). Kee for Firefox allows multiple matched URLs.
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Mar 5, 2018 22:16
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Volguus posted:Some are in the cloud and you pay for them (1pass, lastpass), some are applications running on your computer and are free (keepass). Personally I do not see the value of a cloud-based password manager, therefore even the low price of 1pass is not something that I care to pay. Keepass works for me just fine. And yes, that means that I cannot use various services where I have accounts from my phone and that is perfectly ok (desirable) for me. 1Password used to offer both the subscription model and a one-time purchase, but I'm not sure if the latter exists anymore. However, you can also keep your passwords locally and sync without using their cloud service if you want. I bought it before they went subscription, so it's completely understandable if that's a deal-breaker. But it does give you full access to their apps on all supported platforms. The difference between them and Lastpass is that Lastpass has been hacked repeatedly. KeePass is perfectly fine as a free option -- its interface is just really open source, and the mobile apps are all maintained by third parties, so it's harder to judge whether they're really "secure" or not. But it's hard to beat the price!
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Mar 5, 2018 22:17
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Avenging Dentist posted:Auto-type is probably the most glaring issue. It's really loving bad, and one of the reasons a lot of password managers have browser plugins (KeePass has some third-party ones, but none are all that great from what I've seen). Related to this, the fact that you can only have a single URL makes it harder for browser plugins to have good autofill (mainly, the problem here is SSO logins). But if these are things that you (or anyone) appreciates (browser integration, dropbox synchronization, etc.) then I can see why 1pass' low cost subscription may be appealing.
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Mar 5, 2018 22:25
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Volguus posted:These are not features that I personally use nor features that I would look for in a password manager. The simpler, the better. Every single feature in a program is a potential security vector, therefore a password manager should have very few "features". Do one thing and do it well. I'm not sure how "KeePass has a bunch of features I don't use/want" and "Security-critical programs should be minimalist" mesh together, but ok.  (I use KeePass too but that's more because the alternatives either cost money, don't have a decent Windows + Linux experience, or are even shittier than KeePass.)
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Mar 5, 2018 23:08
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Avenging Dentist posted:I'm not sure how "KeePass has a bunch of features I don't use/want" and "Security-critical programs should be minimalist" mesh together, but ok. I don't like that it has the feature, but I hope that if I don't use it it won't bite me in the rear end. Can be just wishful thinking, but I haven't found a password manager that just works, no fuss about it.This one works in all the Operating systems that I use. But yes I wished it was simpler. I am very interested in using something else though. Not married with keepass by any means. Volguus fucked around with this message at 00:10 on Mar 6, 2018 |
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Mar 6, 2018 00:07
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I'm very happy with Enpass. It doesn't look like poo poo, you can store your passwords on any cloud service you want (including OwnCloud if you want), it's free except for 10 dollars per mobile platform once. Supports basically all major desktop and mobile systems and browsers. Used Lastpass before, but the one hack and the price increase was too much for me.
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Mar 6, 2018 12:17
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All the infosec blogs I read seem to recommend Dashlane for "normal" users AKA folks like my dad who despite my handholding him through setting up Keepass synced through his Google Drive can't even remember how to use the password generate function in the android app. That said, yeah I'd say if you're a poweruser, Keepass if you're paranoid/cheap/very responsible, 1Password if you want your password to Just Work.
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Mar 6, 2018 16:17
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If you want to go the open source full beard route, check out pass. https://www.passwordstore.org There's a number of decent desktop GUIs, mobile apps, and browser extensions. Encrypts with your own keys, can sync over git. 1password has spoiled me too much to use anything lesser, but it's probably what I'd reach for first besides it.
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Mar 6, 2018 17:40
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Nowadays I print out my passwords onto card stock and stick them in my password rolodex. It works surprisingly well, but it helps to be a fast typist. Also, old. My old way was just to put everything into text files in an encrypted folder and copy/paste the username/password into Firefox.
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Mar 7, 2018 12:17
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Kerning Chameleon posted:All the infosec blogs I read seem to recommend Dashlane for "normal" users AKA folks like my dad who despite my handholding him through setting up Keepass synced through his Google Drive can't even remember how to use the password generate function in the android app. Stupid question: how common are password generators? Does 1Password have that capability?
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Mar 7, 2018 16:06
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Fun little fact, if you mash your keyboard a couple times, it generates a password. Requires a keyboard though.
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Mar 7, 2018 16:20
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Mad Doctor Cthulhu posted:Stupid question: how common are password generators? Does 1Password have that capability? 1password does it, safari does it as well if you have all apple devices it's really hard to beat safari for a seamless solution that *just werks*
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Mar 7, 2018 16:25
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Im_Special posted:Fun little fact, if you mash your keyboard a couple times, it generates a password. Requires a keyboard though. Don’t do this for serious passwords. There’s not actually that much entropy when you mash a keyboard. Just use a password generator instead.
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Mar 7, 2018 16:37
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Mozilla finally going down the route to add GPO support to FireFox: https://blog.mozilla.org/futurereleases/2018/01/11/announcing-esr60-policy-engine/ They are starting with a platform-agnostic and deployable JSON file, once all settings are supported via this method they will start making them changeable via GPO.
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Mar 7, 2018 16:39
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The Milkman posted:If you want to go the open source full beard route, check out pass. another full-beard (heh) option is Password Safe. It works well if you sync the encrypted data-store with dropbox/icloud/onedrive. https://pwsafe.org/
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Mar 8, 2018 17:23
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KeePass is open source too. It's a "full beard" as much as those are.
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Mar 8, 2018 17:32
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I finally got Kee setup with gdrive. Well, mostly. Need to get it working on my laptop (I have it installed, but not the plugin).
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Mar 8, 2018 17:48
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stevewm posted:Mozilla finally going down the route to add GPO support to FireFox: https://blog.mozilla.org/futurereleases/2018/01/11/announcing-esr60-policy-engine/ Of course, the majority of our PCs are stuck on an ancient version because of a "mission critical" NPAPI plugin, but by the time that dies out they'll hopefully have the GPO kinks worked out.
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Mar 10, 2018 00:53
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Why has Firefox 58 become such a memory hog? It sometimes gets to a point that I have to close it and restart.
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Mar 10, 2018 15:43
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a) lovely computer. b) To many lovely add-ons. c) Visit lovely sites like facebook.
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Mar 10, 2018 16:25
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Mister Kingdom posted:Why has Firefox 58 become such a memory hog? It sometimes gets to a point that I have to close it and restart. If you habitually leave sites open in background tabs you can try reloading them. I've found that some sites will just bloat over time (Javascript fuckery?) and a refresh frees up an easy three gigs after some disk churn while FF pulls the cache to dump it on my tablet that only has 8gb RAM.
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Mar 10, 2018 16:34
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i'm in the b) category, but I don't mind restarting my browser once a week if it means I can use it without the mouse.
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Mar 10, 2018 16:38
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Im_Special posted:a) lovely computer. Well, gently caress you very much.
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Mar 10, 2018 17:44
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isndl posted:If you habitually leave sites open in background tabs you can try reloading them. I've found that some sites will just bloat over time (Javascript fuckery?) and a refresh frees up an easy three gigs after some disk churn while FF pulls the cache to dump it on my tablet that only has 8gb RAM. I rarely have more than one tab open at a time. Version 57 was fine and gave me no trouble.
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Mar 10, 2018 17:45
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I leave sets of tabs open for days before I get around to reading them. Rarely have less than 6-7 open at any time. Some are paused youtube videos, some are content heavy in other ways. I restart my browser maybe once every two weeks. I have ublock, html 5 autoplay blocker and google translate plugins, which can sometimes cause problems, but for the most part my 8 gigs of RAM are 60-80% used and everything is ticking over very nicely. Don't think I've ever had such a stable, well running laptop and browsing experience.
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