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I spent all my money buying Zeratul and Zuljin last night. They're two I'd like to get good with. Blinky boi and WAAAAAGH.
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After being stuck in bronze all last 2 seasons my placements this time put me silver 4 so I guess I'm getting better lol
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Mar 10, 2018 23:01
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Charles Bukowski posted:I spent all my money buying Zeratul and Zuljin last night. They're two I'd like to get good with. Blinky boi and WAAAAAGH. Better get zarya and zagara too while youre at it
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Mar 10, 2018 23:08
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(I already bought them)
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Mar 10, 2018 23:40
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Managed to lose two protectors and gain no buildings in the meantime. Then, we somehow marched the third through fort and keep to a core kill. What a weird game.
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Mar 11, 2018 01:11
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Snacksmaniac posted:Managed to lose two protectors and gain no buildings in the meantime. Then, we somehow marched the third through fort and keep to a core kill. What a weird game. People still underestimate the Protector, and that late-game laser line is murder if they’re not careful.
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Mar 11, 2018 01:27
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Dire Human posted:People still underestimate the Protector, and that late-game laser line is murder if they’re not careful. Yeah, lategame protector is the real deal now. I had a game vs chogall in QM where they won all the objectives and were smashing us, but we got a lucky chogall kill in the lategame. We got protector and had a 5v5, and the protector ran around the chogall and triple killed his whole team, then turned around and pinched chogall between itself and the rest of our team. From there it was fort to keep to the rare chogall QM loss. Felt great.
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Mar 11, 2018 03:15
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New Zeratul is great. There are a few talents I always get: Wormhole and Might of the Nerazhim. You can do some insane stuff with the double blink. My favourite is to double blink behind the gate and murder someone who thought they were in a safe space to hearth. You can also rip down a fort with the attack speed talent plus the lvl 1 globe talent that makes basic attacks lower your blink cooldown. The attack speed increase will mean you can blink attack wormhole attack pretty much constantly and proc the follow through damage. If anyone comes to stop you just leave. He’s great
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Mar 11, 2018 03:16
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Olaf The Stout posted:Yeah, lategame protector is the real deal now. I had a game vs chogall in QM where they won all the objectives and were smashing us, but we got a lucky chogall kill in the lategame. We got protector and had a 5v5, and the protector ran around the chogall and triple killed his whole team, then turned around and pinched chogall between itself and the rest of our team. From there it was fort to keep to the rare chogall QM loss. Felt great. Even the early game protector is pretty decent now imo. Get someone who knows what they're doing to man the guns and while you might not necessarily get a whole building you can usually pick up a couple three kills plus some towers for a nice XP boost.
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Mar 11, 2018 03:20
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Mar 11, 2018 08:48
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I honestly don't think I've seen a Chughall stomp in QM in a long time. Like they always just seem the most suicidal fuckers and gosh howdy what dps doesn't love a balloon to pop. Also it doesn't help that there's quite a few maps where deleting a 5th team member is just a bad idea and QM doesn't discriminate. Also I played Artanis for the first time and somehow walked away with MVP? And most Hero Damage? Like, what? Just right clicking people I guess works? I don't even think I really did that. But it totally makes sense that the next game I felt more comfortable with the swap ball and proceeded to miss forever and accomplish nothing at all.
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Mar 11, 2018 09:55
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I just had the perfect storm, a team with a Gul'Dan and a Hanzo where they picked Rain of Destruction and Dragonstrike respectively.
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Mar 11, 2018 10:16
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Enemies try to move out of Dragonstrike and right into Rain. The unbeatable maneuver.
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Mar 11, 2018 11:16
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And with Lava Wave you can't be stopped!
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Mar 11, 2018 11:48
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Guldan's lovely aoe heroic is by far the most baffling thing in the game. What on earth could it be used for? At least Dragonstrike lets you somewhat herd cats at few opportunities.
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Mar 11, 2018 11:48
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Mar 11, 2018 12:01
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McTimmy posted:And with Lava Wave you can't be stopped! Lava Wave at least actually has some uses. I mean it's not a great teamfight ult unless the enemy team is all real dumb or maybe you have a Maiev lock everyone in jail, but being able to casually depush a lane is at least a thing you can look at and go "okay, this makes some kind of sense." Maybe on Braxis you can use it to help defend against zerg waves, I dunno.
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Mar 11, 2018 12:02
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I had a Hanzo on my team take dragonstrike, try to use it to clear a minion wave when no heroes were around, then rage at his team after the loss
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Mar 11, 2018 12:44
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Kai Tave posted:Lava Wave at least actually has some uses. I mean it's not a great teamfight ult unless the enemy team is all real dumb or maybe you have a Maiev lock everyone in jail, but being able to casually depush a lane is at least a thing you can look at and go "okay, this makes some kind of sense." Maybe on Braxis you can use it to help defend against zerg waves, I dunno. I will never be unhappy to see Lava Wave because it's not like most people give a poo poo about de-pushing lanes/soaking XP and I wouldn't trust any given Rag to land the hammer well besides. John Murdoch fucked around with this message at 12:54 on Mar 11, 2018 |
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Mar 11, 2018 12:52
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kater posted:I honestly don't think I've seen a Chughall stomp in QM in a long time. Like they always just seem the most suicidal fuckers and gosh howdy what dps doesn't love a balloon to pop. Also it doesn't help that there's quite a few maps where deleting a 5th team member is just a bad idea and QM doesn't discriminate. https://www.hotslogs.com/Sitewide/HeroAndMapStatistics If you sort by QM, you'll see cho and gall are the top heroes in QM, and have been for a long, long time. Every time those fuckers don't show up to ruin my games I'm thankful.
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Mar 11, 2018 16:46
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kater posted:Guldan's lovely aoe heroic is by far the most baffling thing in the game. What on earth could it be used for? At least Dragonstrike lets you somewhat herd cats at few opportunities. 
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Mar 11, 2018 18:08
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I saw a cho'gall on the other team in qm and groaned... then I realized we had a tychus. 
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Mar 11, 2018 18:49
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Dietrich posted:I saw a cho'gall on the other team in qm and groaned... then I realized we had a tychus. 
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Mar 11, 2018 19:14
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I trolled the hell out of a Hanzo as Azmodan the other night. I ignored him entirely while channelling All Shall Burn to destroy their keeps. It was real sad. He tried to Dragonstrike me and I just moved slightly, and I'm not sure I even needed to do that.
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Mar 11, 2018 20:19
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I just had a Blackheart's Bay game where I wound up dealing less than 3,000 hero damage because I spent the entire game dual soaking and pushing top and mid while everyone else tussled over bot lane. That map is real silly sometimes.Olaf The Stout posted:https://www.hotslogs.com/Sitewide/HeroAndMapStatistics Cho'Gall is a real weird hero design because he's almost trivially easy to deal with in drafted formats and in fact he has I believe the worst winrate in hero league, then when you throw him into a completely random game mode like quickmatch be becomes a pubstomper extraordinaire. I'm not really sure what they could do to smooth that out short of disallowing the character in quickmatch (which is where I'm sure 99% of his use comes from) or adjusting the matchmaker to somehow ensure the other team has some form of anti-tank damage in their kit.
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Mar 11, 2018 23:53
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Kai Tave posted:I just had a Blackheart's Bay game where I wound up dealing less than 3,000 hero damage because I spent the entire game dual soaking and pushing top and mid while everyone else tussled over bot lane. That map is real silly sometimes. If you sort by Team League, you'll see Gall at # 3 and Cho at # 5. Somehow. Which is why they're my team league groups #2 ban for life.
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Kai Tave posted:I just had a Blackheart's Bay game where I wound up dealing less than 3,000 hero damage because I spent the entire game dual soaking and pushing top and mid while everyone else tussled over bot lane. That map is real silly sometimes. HL in particular is bad for Cho'Gall because coordinating with a complete stranger is really hard, and was made even harder in the Before Times without voice. As VC gains traction I won't expect his pickrate in HL to increase, but I do expect his winrate to go up at least a little. He has a unique and interesting effect on drafts, so even if I didn't like playing as him personally, I'd still be glad he exists; in my opinion, he more than deserves his place in the Nexus, niche it may be. Full disclosure: I'm a huge fan of C'G and don't even mind seeing him on the other team... but Anub and Tychus are two of my preferred QM queuers, so I'm a bit biased. Re: Olaf: I think the TL discrepancy may stem from some Cho/Gall players not being above 5, thus only one head is counted occasionally?
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His sky high winrate falls apart on Towers and Sand Hell. Guess I've just been lucky.
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I love playing against Chogall because they're incredibly fun to play against, especially if you can draft against them.
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Mar 12, 2018 08:59
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lucifirius posted:I love playing against Chogall because they're incredibly fun to play against, especially if you can draft against them. The best thing is when you draft Anub to fit the comps thus far and the other side still slam-picks an unsynergistic CG.
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Mar 12, 2018 13:39
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There really should be some kind of giant angry alert for people who play Auriel but don't use bestow hope.
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Mar 12, 2018 14:19
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Kurieg posted:There really should be some kind of giant angry alert for people who play Auriel but don't use bestow hope. Yeah, ones that use it sub-optimally annoy me (crowning a tank when I'm landing 4-person Ws and repeated Qs as Chromie) but it's not a tenth as bad as the ones that just don't use it at all.
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Mar 12, 2018 14:42
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Kyrosiris posted:Yeah, ones that use it sub-optimally annoy me (crowning a tank when I'm landing 4-person Ws and repeated Qs as Chromie) but it's not a tenth as bad as the ones that just don't use it at all. I initially thought they had crowned Kael'Thas at the start and just didn't realize that it had a maximum range. But later we got into a massive 5v5 team scrum and nobody was hatted and I was really really wishing that Graymane had some kind of self-heal.
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power ranking of healers for players i don't trust: Tier 1 (almost impossible to mess up): Lili Brightwing Lucio Tier 2 (intuitive, well designed heroes with rewarding healing mechanics, often picked by players who actually enjoy playing support): Stukov Alex Uther Malfurion Tier 3 (i don't expect much) Morales Khara Rehgar Tier 4 (potential for single-handedly losing the game): Auriel/ana
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Mar 12, 2018 15:34
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Please don't give Murky tips in this topic as he is a horrible, obnoxious character tia.
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Mar 12, 2018 15:35
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Really? I'd put Allie/Stukov in tier 3 and Rehgar in tier 2, given your definitions. So many arm-build Stukovs that don't heal for poo poo. 
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Rehgar's healing numbers are much lower than you'd think and his design pushes you to melee too hard. I have a very low win rate with him on my team. I've been pleasantly surprised by the Alexes and Alexeis I've played with tbh, that's more my personal experience speaking than anything else. No Wave fucked around with this message at 15:41 on Mar 12, 2018 |
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Mar 12, 2018 15:38
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And stukov's healing is kind of burst-and-wait unless you have someone who's really good at targeted excision.
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PantsBandit posted:Please don't give Murky tips in this topic as he is a horrible, obnoxious character tia. 
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Also I'd put Morales higher up on the list since it's a lot easier to explain "If you heal someone at full health it will heal yourself with no energy cost" than "Here's exactly how Hat works and the various talenting decisions you need to make based on team comp."
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