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Sakurazuka posted:At least running doesn't deplete your hp Every single loving time. Every drat time. I swear it's you every time, too. Stop loving reminding me of Dragon Song. Here I am, enjoying a nice breakfast, browsing through news articles, flipping onto SA, and you do this bullshit to me?
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Edit your post, maybe people will skip to the last page and not notice the game we're talking about.
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Mar 11, 2018 18:17
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The White Dragon posted:I'm Monster Huntering my way through the game with no UI, no numbers, no nothing, and it's great. The gameplay is actually quite good and if you aren't looking at stagger bars or damage percentages and poo poo, enemies actually have really good wind-ups and tells and I'm parrying like a pro. Not seeing your HP is also fine because you don't die when you hit 0, you just enter Critical status, where you can die, but you can also instantly eat a Phoenix Down. Not seeing your MP is a little different but the "no MP" animation is quick and blatant, and all you have to do is chug an Ether. Remember, warping to hang points also restores MP!
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Mar 11, 2018 18:23
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Barudak posted:Remember how you had to pick money and items or xp when winning a fight? It also had level scaling so picking XP was pointless
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pichupal posted:Edit your post, maybe people will skip to the last page and not notice the game we're talking about. I miss half minute hero, it was great imo. Speaking of BoF, I keep meaning to play those games at singe point. Even Dragon Quarter just to see how bad it really is.
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Mar 11, 2018 19:11
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BrightWing posted:I miss half minute hero, it was great imo. You'll be disappointed, as Dragon Quarter is loving great!
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corn in the bible posted:You'll be disappointed, as Dragon Quarter is loving great! It's actually the most okay BoF game.
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Shoenin posted:I wish FF6 Bushido was good and Mr. Thou wasnt the resident lowtier bitchboy of everything FF6 related in spinoffs and crossovers. Dispatch is on par with Drill or Aura Bolt all the way up until you hit ~lv35 and get about 40-50 Vigor, and only then if you have a Genji Glove. corn in the bible posted:Remember, warping to hang points also restores MP! Well yeah but once in a while you get into an encounter where there's basically no hang points, so I feel like it's more universal to say "brah just pound the Ether" 
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Mar 11, 2018 19:35
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BrightWing posted:I miss half minute hero, it was great imo. Start with 2, it hasn’t aged very well. 3, 4, and Dragon Quarter are all competent RPGs you’ll likely find something to appreciate in.
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I always seem to run into this weird juxtaposed sentiment that Dragon Quarter has a bunch of weird as gently caress mechanics, then turning around to people jumping in that it's one of the best in the series.
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I never sell used games but man I sure hell made an exception for Lunar: Dragon Song. When you're desperate for an RPG and you have a shiny new DS...
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BrightWing posted:I always seem to run into this weird juxtaposed sentiment that Dragon Quarter has a bunch of weird as gently caress mechanics, then turning around to people jumping in that it's one of the best in the series. I mean, this forum is the 1% nerdom of rpgs, so being different and obtuse is seen as a positive.
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BrightWing posted:I always seem to run into this weird juxtaposed sentiment that Dragon Quarter has a bunch of weird as gently caress mechanics, then turning around to people jumping in that it's one of the best in the series. Dragon Quarter has a lot of weird mechanics and one which is probably poorly implimented but those weird mechanics tend to come together very well and for an engaging and interesting game.
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BrightWing posted:I always seem to run into this weird juxtaposed sentiment that Dragon Quarter has a bunch of weird as gently caress mechanics, then turning around to people jumping in that it's one of the best in the series. Yeah it's both. If you can adjust to the mechanics there's some good game there, but it's a lot more adjustment than "they switched the attack and cancel buttons".
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Weird and unique games existing is purely a good and healthy thing for the whole medium, even if it means only a specific part of the audience will ever fully appreciate them. One thing Dragon Quarter is definitely remembered for is its incredibly good atmosphere, which is a bigger deal than one might think for a lot of people.
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The White Dragon posted:I'm Monster Huntering my way through the game with no UI, no numbers, no nothing, and it's great. The gameplay is actually quite good and if you aren't looking at stagger bars or damage percentages and poo poo, enemies actually have really good wind-ups and tells and I'm parrying like a pro. Not seeing your HP is also fine because you don't die when you hit 0, you just enter Critical status, where you can die, but you can also instantly eat a Phoenix Down. Not seeing your MP is a little different but the "no MP" animation is quick and blatant, and all you have to do is chug an Ether. Okay, this is the post that convinced me to buy it on PC and give it a real, good shot. I tried out the demo and the gameplay really didn't click, but maybe I just haven't really gotten a hang of it yet. What ascension things should I grab first? It's just so wide-open I have no idea where to even start.
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Noctis is the best, dorky protag with actual emotions
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Barudak posted:Remember how you had to pick money and items or xp when winning a fight? That game was so bad I couldn't even make it through the LP. Dragon Song, Tierkreis, Lufia 2's remake, BoF6... When a JRPG series gets killed off some developers really drive home the point.  BrightWing posted:I always seem to run into this weird juxtaposed sentiment that Dragon Quarter has a bunch of weird as gently caress mechanics, then turning around to people jumping in that it's one of the best in the series. It'd probably be fine as its own RPG but it's a bad BoF game. BoF3 and BoF4 are the best in the series though. BoF1 is still fun (if extremely basic) and BoF2 was alright at the time but has aged the worst out of any in the series. BoF3's gene system is the best dragon system. Warrior/Myrmidon are both pretty cool.
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Cleretic posted:So a friend has just informed me of this, and holy poo poo I am already preordering and politely ignoring the typos in the description.
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Dragon Quarter is definitely a massive departure as a BoF game and has a few weird mechanics (like the save system, which can also be easily exploited), but overall it's a fantastic game with a surprisingly effective story. Dragon Quarter blew me away the first time I played it, honestly.
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BrightWing posted:I miss half minute hero, it was great imo. Dragon Quarter is one of the best games ever made.
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Dragon Quarter was a good game, which also meant that it was a huge departure from the BoF series as a whole.
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Dragon Quarter made me feel like a genius when I figured out how to loop and grind Of course everyone else on the internet figured it out sooner but I didn't know that at the time
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It's just so goddamn interesting for a JRPG, the way it weaves all those different mechanics together. The world and story are great, the atmosphere is great, the art still looks drat good. It's a drat shame it killed the franchise. I'll always love BoF2, mostly for nostalgia though I think it's a solid as hell JRPG (dat localisation was a choice, tho), but Dragon Quarter is so. loving. good. I especially love the way dragon form is treated as incredibly dangerous and risky to the point you could game over if you abuse it.
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I feel the same as you about D-Dive in Dragon Quarter From a mechanical/aesthetic point of view the power to turn into a loving dragon (apocalyptic news in all the BoFs far as I know) never really got the gameplay respect it seemingly merited--like yeah it was powerful but not something you couldn't use every battle, or that you pay a heavy price for like the stories imply In DQ D-Dive just lets you straight up turbofuck any fight or boss in the game but there's a long term price to pay to do it and I just find that more interesting, even if it can lead to Giant Enemy Crab Syndrome when actually playing it
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Speaking of Giant Enemy Crab Syndrome, FFXV question: how much should I be dumping into elemancy, both in terms of AP and in how much potency or elemental power or whatever I dump into what I craft I know they're more like deadly grenades than something you should regularly use in a fight, so I guess "don't spend AP on it" and "dump everything into like 2 spells at a time"?
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Ciaphas posted:Speaking of Giant Enemy Crab Syndrome, FFXV question: how much should I be dumping into elemancy, both in terms of AP and in how much potency or elemental power or whatever I dump into what I craft Don't waste AP on anything you're not going to be using all the drat time. It's a pain to grind up AP for stuff.
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Ciaphas posted:Speaking of Giant Enemy Crab Syndrome, FFXV question: how much should I be dumping into elemancy, both in terms of AP and in how much potency or elemental power or whatever I dump into what I craft if you put lots of treasure or items into a spell you get extra ones out
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ImpAtom posted:Don't waste AP on anything you're not going to be using all the drat time. It's a pain to grind up AP for stuff. What are must-have things to buy with AP? I'm guessing the Exploration ones Lunchmeat Larry recommended are the "get more AP from <activity>" ones, which seem like a good investment.
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I borrowed Dissidia NT from a friend, and I don't even get what I'm supposed to be doing in it. How do I keep track of enemies? What am I trying to do? What on earth is going on? The game seems like kind of a mess.
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Must-buy AP things are generally ones that activate all the time (link strikes, increase tech gauge by attacking) and the best skill in the game is Ignis's Regroup. It is a FULL party heal, including healing people in Danger mode. You basically slap Ignis with as much protection as possible and just dodge things for a while until you hit 2 tech bars.
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Harrow posted:Okay, this is the post that convinced me to buy it on PC and give it a real, good shot. I tried out the demo and the gameplay really didn't click, but maybe I just haven't really gotten a hang of it yet. I would suggest the chocobo and driving nodes that give ap. If you find yourself enjoying fishing and the like go for that as well. Then I'd probably suggest working your way to being able to swap to the bros and get more accessory slots. Generally though if you get things that improve ap gain early you aren't really wasting getting the things you like. I personally like wait mode for example just for the benefit of getting to libra poo poo myself that way instead of hoping Ignis deigns to libra it eventually.
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also is there a way to get ignis to stop being a whiny baby about driving at night and just let me take over without the whole cutscene thing?
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Ciaphas posted:also is there a way to get ignis to stop being a whiny baby about driving at night and just let me take over without the whole cutscene thing? Get far enough into the story and/or get headlights from Cindy's quest
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Annoyingly the “get AP for x activity” tend to pay out so slowly for AP that even if theyre the first skills you buy its likely by endgame youve still not paid back the investment
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Ciaphas posted:Speaking of Giant Enemy Crab Syndrome, FFXV question: how much should I be dumping into elemancy, both in terms of AP and in how much potency or elemental power or whatever I dump into what I craft I picked up Elemancy 1 and I draw 40-50 magic from a single source. Pair that with the ultimate wepaon, Engine Blade MkIII, and you have pretty good magic sustainability. I have five magic bottles right now (doing a bunch of hunts in ch3, maybe been to half to two thirds of the towns). I'm probably gonna get Magic Power 2 the next time I have >99AP banked. Barudak posted:Annoyingly the “get AP for x activity” tend to pay out so slowly for AP that even if theyre the first skills you buy its likely by endgame youve still not paid back the investment Maybe for Chocobo and Walking because they're mutually exclusive sources of AP, but everything else has absolutely already paid for itself. Don't get the Car AP one if you fast travel a lot though, but the only time I fast travel is at night. Hell, I get like 2-3AP just walking around in dungeons. Fur20 fucked around with this message at 21:31 on Mar 11, 2018 |
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Episode Prompto is very interesting. Not sure how good the gameplay is when you're fighting monsters but it's interesting.
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Kanfy posted:Weird and unique games existing is purely a good and healthy thing for the whole medium, even if it means only a specific part of the audience will ever fully appreciate them. Hell yeah. Legend of Mana is my favorite game and it's complete poo poo gameplay-wise. Also I started playing this FF15 game finally and it might be the rare good Final Fantasy...!? (jk they're all good except for the ones I don't like)
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