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I've recently seen an alcohol fueled fireplace installed during a renovation that met environmental and code compliance. It didn't let off much heat. I thought it was one of those backlit moving paintings at first. It was fully enclosed with a glass screen, and the additives or light accents made it look bright red. It's an elegant solution to meeting all of the necessary restrictions for a safe, non-intrusive fire. But I still like my habit of dumping the scraps I trimmed from bushes and trees in a metal tub in the back yard and lighting er up while I take pulls off of a bottle of something that tastes like gasoline. But hopefully isn't.
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Motronic posted:My former code enforcement self is causing me to spontaneously writing a stop work order. So you're saying that the plumbers who added some waste lines to my house aren't professionals?     The engineer's evaluation/remedy cost them twice what we paid them for the actual job. What's mind boggling is that this was in an unfinished basement that we explicitly said we didn't plan on finishing. We're having ducting put in for an air conditioner this weekend and I had to be like "Look, please don't cut into any floor joists without asking first. I understand you're looking at me like I'm an idiot and that goes without saying but *gestures to the sistered monstrosities in the back* it doesn't go without saying. Chef Boyardeez Nuts fucked around with this message at 16:12 on Mar 11, 2018 |
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They assumed those floor joists were just cosmetic. I guess. Yikes.
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Some people like the thrill of gambling when they walk through a door.
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Mar 11, 2018 18:32
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Monty Hall made a living doing that
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Maybe you guys can help me figure this out. In September I moved into an apartment. It's an older high rise (late sixties or early seventies, I'd say), and I'm renting a very sweet 300-ish square foot L-shaped bachelor/studio/whatever you want to call them. The building was probably originally a fairly nice building intended for singles and couples (it's all bachelors and one bedrooms), fell into disrepair, and then it the last ten years was bought by a new company that renovated. I have nice new windows, and tile floors, and the building is quiet and well-maintained and has key fob entry and is on the cheap side for the area and I'm really, really happy here. And then there's the mystery of my heat. Here's my thermostat, which is inexplicably original?  And as far as I can tell, it doesn't do a goddamn thing. No. I have hosed with it all sorts of ways and nothing seems to make a difference with what happens. No, the real control seems to be across the room, here.  This is not air conditioning. Maybe it once was, but no. This is how I turn the heat on. Again, the thermostat seems to make no distance, just pick the amount of hot air to blow out the vents near the ceiling:  Okay, I guess the low ceiling in the kitchen is a bit weird. Also, boob light. To be honest, the building is so snug that I really only turned the heat on when the temperature dropped below -25 C, even if heat is way more of a necessity in this area than AC.
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So what's the question?
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And whose flayed face is that?
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Mar 11, 2018 19:15
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Nooo it's gone
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EssOEss posted:And whose flayed face is that? The face of my nemesis, hung to remind me of my enduring victory. And I guess I'm just looking into insight into how/why. Did they just hook up heat to the old AC system? Why even leave the thermostat there if it doesn't do anything?
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I'd assume that thermostat is for show and it's controlled by management. I think a friend lived in a building like that. He always bitched and moaned that it was too drat cold because they never turned on the heat. Edit: to answer your second question: to make the tenants feel like they are in control of the heating in their apartment. I assume this largely works via placebo, but you are too powerful to be controlled by such means.
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An alternative is the HVAC guys had two different pairs of thermostat wires when they were retrofitting the new heat, and they just picked the one that was easier to get to.
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RoboRodent posted:The face of my nemesis, hung to remind me of my enduring victory. My parents house, built in the 60's had no A/C, only a swamp cooler, so the thermostat only worked for the furnace. Many years later when A/C was added, it got it's own thermostat for 'reasons'. It's possible that in your apartment, it originally had separate controls for the heat vs. cooling?
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Splicer posted:Nooo it's gone I got you fam 
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Leperflesh posted:In California they want people to stop burning wood because of smog. Given how much of California is on fire at a given moment, how could they tell?
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value-brand cereal posted:I'd assume that thermostat is for show and it's controlled by management. I think a friend lived in a building like that. He always bitched and moaned that it was too drat cold because they never turned on the heat. Reminds me of a place I lived in for 3 months when I was moving about 10 years ago. It was an old piece of poo poo building fancied up for modern pricing. It was all I had available so I took it. It was steam heat. There was no way to control the heat at all. The knobs on the registers moved, but they did absolutely nothing. In order for my wife and I to sleep, we had to run the A/C in the dead of winter. The window was screwed shut in our bedroom. I'm talking -15f outside 85f inside. When you're cold adapted to winter, 85f makes you want to vomit. I used to stand outside at night on the patio to cool off for a bit in my skivvies. Why would an apartment manager crank the heat like that? If I was running it, I'd drop it to 64f and wait until someone complains.
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My husband spent a couple years in college in a place like that, the problem is that steam heating is very uneven, particularly if the landlord hasn't kept up on maintaining and cleaning the pipes. They crank the heat so a bunch of apartments can be comfortable, but this means a bunch of other apartments are going to be absolutely boiling. It's really bad in Toronto where some ancient law says they have to turn up the heat starting on September 15th, when it's often still in the 80s and 90s.
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Yea, I used to work in a lovely old building like that - they had to seriously juice up the heat to get the top floors to be tolerable at all (like 50), but for that to happen the lower floors would be hitting 80 by early afternoon. Everyone complained, the supers just jiggled the knob back and forth, and the owners refused to do anything about it because they were trying to sell the whole place and didn't want to bother replacing the system on a building. We had knobs that were supposed to control the flow through individual vents, but I opened one up and it was completely useless, the knob system wasn't even attached to anything and the vent just went to an empty hole in the wall with no conduit behind it - the heat came in somewhere else entirely.  The big thing to look out for there though is that if you have someone else controlling your heat, make sure its being billed correctly. In many places (like MA) you're only responsible for a utility if its metered to you and you have control of it - if the super or the landlord sets it and its building-wide, they can't bill you for use, it has to be built into the base rent.
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RoboRodent posted:Maybe you guys can help me figure this out. In September I moved into an apartment. It's an older high rise (late sixties or early seventies, I'd say), and I'm renting a very sweet 300-ish square foot L-shaped bachelor/studio/whatever you want to call them. The building was probably originally a fairly nice building intended for singles and couples (it's all bachelors and one bedrooms), fell into disrepair, and then it the last ten years was bought by a new company that renovated. I have nice new windows, and tile floors, and the building is quiet and well-maintained and has key fob entry and is on the cheap side for the area and I'm really, really happy here. This seems like the controls for a hot/cold water system. The building changes over for you depending on the season-- the thermostat determines the amount of hot/cold water that is fed through the heat exchanger and the air conditioning control is the fan speed blowing over the heat exchanger. in theory during heating season, if you dropped the thermostat to the lowest setting, eventually the air would cool off to ambient temp as the hot water would have been cut off.
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Nuevo posted:I got you fam one always lies, one always tells the truth, and the other stabs people who ask tricky questions
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Fortunately, heat's included in my $700/month, so that's not a concern. Qwijib0 posted:This seems like the controls for a hot/cold water system. The building changes over for you depending on the season-- the thermostat determines the amount of hot/cold water that is fed through the heat exchanger and the air conditioning control is the fan speed blowing over the heat exchanger. in theory during heating season, if you dropped the thermostat to the lowest setting, eventually the air would cool off to ambient temp as the hot water would have been cut off. Huh. Okay, it'll be interesting to see if that's what happens come summer. The thermostat has been on the lowest setting all winter (because September was warm and, you know, just in case it was doing something). Otherwise, I'm gonna have to buy a big floor fan, I think.
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Yeah, I live in a 90-year-old building in Toronto with steam radiators, and the heat is on from Sept 15 to May 1. The rads in the kitchen and bathroom don’t turn off, so I cover them in towels all winter and leave the windows open on all but the most blustery days. My downstairs neighours have a rad in their bedroom that doesn’t turn off and they are miserable at night so I suppose I’m “lucky” compared.
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This is making me (not) miss my previous apartment. 2nd floor, I literally never needed or wanted to turn on my heat because the people below would crank theirs and there was no insulation between floors. We had baseboard heat so all winter I paid nothing to have more heat than I needed (which was remedied by opening the window. singular.), but the summer was miserable.
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I wonder if the rads are hot enough to generate power from.
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 From https://imgur.com/gallery/tTGOI
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Javid posted:This is making me (not) miss my previous apartment. 2nd floor, I literally never needed or wanted to turn on my heat because the people below would crank theirs and there was no insulation between floors. Yeah, I just moved out of an anchient apartment that had baseboard heaters. I was 3rd floor and always had to leave the bathroom window open to let the heat out. Like above there was a decorative thermostat that did nothing, if I left the windows closed in September it would easily get up to 90 in there by the time I got home. I do miss the free unlimited hot water but my new Y2K built apartment is much nicer all around. I did a bunch of digging around on Newspapers.com on this old apartment recently. It was built in 1967 by 3 brothers who made money in real estate during the 50's and 60's. At one point there was a wooded hiking/picnic area and a golf-course as part of the property. All that remains of the original recreation area is the lake that the buildings surround. The initial advertisements indicated their plans to put in a 4,000 foot airstrip with hangar facilities, as well as a shopping center and entertainment center. By 1972 they were selling a bunch of property in the area with sewage and electric, and the super-ghetto apartment down the street was built on what I assume was some of that property (it's located where the airstrip would have been). I found mention of them selling off 3 apartment facilities that they owned nearby during the mid-70's. Then in 1978 there were two suspicious fires that started in storage rooms, followed by another one in 1981. Sometime after this ownership changed hands and around 1984 there was a name change. In 1986 a tornado tore the roof off of 7 out of the 8 buildings in the complex. Another fire happened in 1999. 2002, the ownership changed hands again and then massive toxic mold buildup was found and cleaned up. There was another ownership change sometime between the mold and 2010. In 2007 there was another fire, followed by the owner having the property repossessed by a bank in 2010. Sometime after that the current owner bought it, and renamed it. I moved in in December 2012, and apparently lucked out in getting one of the few good apartments. Looking at that pattern I got out just in time as it's overdue for having a building burn down, once again.
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 Yo dog, I heard you like dust, so I put dust in your dust so you can sneeze while you snooze.
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I remember the Build engine.
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Facebook Aunt posted:
I think the weirdass curtain may be worse than the wampa extrusion of a bed/floor.
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That whole album looks like someone is trying to train a computer on generating interiors and it just can't get it right.
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The Bloop posted:I think the weirdass curtain may be worse than the wampa extrusion of a bed/floor. It's reminiscent of the privacy curtain around a hospital bed.
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It is a very bad curtain but no it is not even close to as bad as whatever they've done to that floor.
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I bet it is all synthetic too. A suicide booth for idiots who smoke in bed.
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 lol if you don't have "love, laugh, shrimp" decals on at least one wall in every room.
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Boil em mash em stick em in a stew
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C.M. Kruger posted:
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C.M. Kruger posted:
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