Rhyno posted:And make sure you watch the Batman Beyond episode for the greatest Bruce Wayne moment in history. The part where he can't change a tire?
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Rhyno posted:And make sure you watch the Batman Beyond episode for the greatest Bruce Wayne moment in history. That ep is so rich you could mean a few things. Do you mean the very end?
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Mar 12, 2018 00:06
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Roth posted:What are some really good Ra's Al Ghul stories? Sticking to comics, anything by Denny O'Neil (especially Tales of the Demon). I also liked Death and the Maidens, although that's really more about Talia and Nyssa than Ra's.
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Mar 12, 2018 00:08
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Unmature posted:That ep is so rich you could mean a few things. Do you mean the very end? The part where Talia starts talking in Ra's voice stands out for me imo
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Mar 12, 2018 00:10
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I'm sure he means Bruce realizing that the Talia he's been frenching all episode is actually Ra'z And of course Bruce can't change a tire, he's had Alfred most of his life and every vehicle he drives either has run flat tires or doesn't have tires.
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Mar 12, 2018 00:11
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Roth posted:What are some really good Ra's Al Ghul stories? Tower of Babel? Son of the Demon, maybe? Talia tends to overshadow her father most of the time.
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Mar 12, 2018 00:43
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Roth posted:What are some really good Ra's Al Ghul stories? Batman Annual 8: Messiah of the Crimson Sun
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Mar 12, 2018 00:52
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Skwirl posted:I'm sure he means Bruce realizing that the Talia he's been frenching all episode is actually Ra'z Thisssssssss. It's amazing and Conroy should have won an award for it.
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Mar 12, 2018 01:41
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"Talia" left grey in Bruce's hair because she thought it looked distinguished. Totally not for other reasons, Ra's, you pervert.
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Mar 12, 2018 02:39
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Has any modern-ish comics referenced Amazing Spider-Man #12, it's Doc Ock's second appearance and early in the story Spider-Man get's a 24-hour flu and Ock beats him and unmasks him, but the fight was so easy, and Parker was known to be so puny, no one believed he could be Spider-Man J Jonah is there for the unmasking. It feels like to kind of deep cut you could get some leverage out of, "Hey Parker, remember that time you dressed up as Spider-Man, for a genius you did some dumb poo poo as a teenager."
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Mar 12, 2018 10:41
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Trying to recall the name of a comic, about a small rural USA town that gets affected by a whole heap of stuff. Sherrif's kid got super powers I wanna say, it was an indie comic too. Last issue I can remember is the sherrif's kid's female friend developing her own spectacular abilities. Any one have any idea?
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Mar 12, 2018 12:12
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Skwirl posted:Has any modern-ish comics referenced Amazing Spider-Man #12, it's Doc Ock's second appearance and early in the story Spider-Man get's a 24-hour flu and Ock beats him and unmasks him, but the fight was so easy, and Parker was known to be so puny, no one believed he could be Spider-Man J Jonah is there for the unmasking. It feels like to kind of deep cut you could get some leverage out of, "Hey Parker, remember that time you dressed up as Spider-Man, for a genius you did some dumb poo poo as a teenager." The Fox cartoon did that in an episode.
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Mar 12, 2018 14:02
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Skwirl posted:Has any modern-ish comics referenced Amazing Spider-Man #12, it's Doc Ock's second appearance and early in the story Spider-Man get's a 24-hour flu and Ock beats him and unmasks him, but the fight was so easy, and Parker was known to be so puny, no one believed he could be Spider-Man J Jonah is there for the unmasking. It feels like to kind of deep cut you could get some leverage out of, "Hey Parker, remember that time you dressed up as Spider-Man, for a genius you did some dumb poo poo as a teenager." I don't remember the issue, but I definitely know that there was some comic where one of the people there found out Peter was Spider-Man and then asked how they could be that stupid to not realize it when Spider-Man was unmasked in front of them.
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Mar 12, 2018 14:24
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Cassa posted:Trying to recall the name of a comic, about a small rural USA town that gets affected by a whole heap of stuff. Sherrif's kid got super powers I wanna say, it was an indie comic too. Last issue I can remember is the sherrif's kid's female friend developing her own spectacular abilities. I imagine that'd be North 40, written by Aaron Williams with art by Fiona Staples.
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Mar 12, 2018 14:39
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Skwirl posted:Has any modern-ish comics referenced Amazing Spider-Man #12, it's Doc Ock's second appearance and early in the story Spider-Man get's a 24-hour flu and Ock beats him and unmasks him, but the fight was so easy, and Parker was known to be so puny, no one believed he could be Spider-Man J Jonah is there for the unmasking. It feels like to kind of deep cut you could get some leverage out of, "Hey Parker, remember that time you dressed up as Spider-Man, for a genius you did some dumb poo poo as a teenager." It's come up a few times.
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Mar 12, 2018 17:05
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Roth posted:What are some really good Ra's Al Ghul stories? All of the Denny O'Neil "Demon" stories are great. Also echoing for Death and the Maiden by Rucka. I found Barr's Son of the Demon a bit uneven and your mileage might vary on that one.
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Mar 12, 2018 17:21
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Ruptured Yakety Sax posted:I imagine that'd be North 40, written by Aaron Williams with art by Fiona Staples. It was! Man, only six issues, that's a bummer.
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Mar 12, 2018 22:54
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Skwirl posted:Has any modern-ish comics referenced Amazing Spider-Man #12, it's Doc Ock's second appearance and early in the story Spider-Man get's a 24-hour flu and Ock beats him and unmasks him, but the fight was so easy, and Parker was known to be so puny, no one believed he could be Spider-Man J Jonah is there for the unmasking. It feels like to kind of deep cut you could get some leverage out of, "Hey Parker, remember that time you dressed up as Spider-Man, for a genius you did some dumb poo poo as a teenager." My favourite reference to it is during Civil War. After Peter outs his secret Identity to the world, the Spider-man comics deal with the fallout. And they were some good comics.* Doc Ock's story (where he was jacked. Like seriously ripped.) Has him flipping out over the fact that it was a kid who beat him. A kid he had unmasked but had discounted the possibility because he was a kid. Basically a whole lot of denial and viewing things in hindsight. * = the other great reactions were Jameson's feeling of betrayal by Peter over this, and Norman Osborn wigging out because "Peter wasn't supposed to reveal his identity. It's not how the game is supposed to work."
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Mar 13, 2018 09:52
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Didn't JJJ literally have a heart attack
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Mar 13, 2018 14:44
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purple death ray posted:Didn't JJJ literally have a heart attack JJJ didn't have his second heart attack until after Peter's secret identity was restored -- it was brought on by a combination of stress over Dexter Bennett buying out the Daily Bugle and a screaming fight with Peter over photo rights.
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Mar 14, 2018 00:21
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He did try to sue Peter though.
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Mar 14, 2018 00:30
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Selachian posted:JJJ didn't have his second heart attack until after Peter's secret identity was restored -- it was brought on by a combination of stress over Dexter Bennett buying out the Daily Bugle and a screaming fight with Peter over photo rights. I'm now imagining some alternate universe where Peter Parker is evil and eventually goes to Jameson and takes his mask off and causes him to have a heart attack, like Clint Eastwood and the mobster at the start of Sudden Impact.
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Mar 14, 2018 00:45
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Wikipedia say that Secret Wars removed the Irredeemable arc from Dr Doom’s past. Is this actually stated somewhere in a book or interview or is Wikipedia being Wikipedia?
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Mar 14, 2018 19:32
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Edmund Lava posted:Wikipedia say that Secret Wars removed the Irredeemable arc from Dr Doom’s past. Is this actually stated somewhere in a book or interview or is Wikipedia being Wikipedia? I can't remember if it was his mother or his ex-girlfriend's soul he made the armor out of, if it was his mother she pops up in Irredeemable Iron-Man, soul intact, so there's that.
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Mar 14, 2018 19:50
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It was his childhood sweetheart, and I think it was just her skin, not her soul. His mother's soul was freed in Triumph and Torment.
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Mar 14, 2018 20:38
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Lurdiak posted:It was his childhood sweetheart, and I think it was just her skin, not her soul. His mother's soul was freed in Triumph and Torment. I think he traded her soul for the magic upgrade.
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Mar 14, 2018 22:42
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Edmund Lava posted:Wikipedia say that Secret Wars removed the Irredeemable arc from Dr Doom’s past. Is this actually stated somewhere in a book or interview or is Wikipedia being Wikipedia? This is what happens when you get rid of those boxes. quote:* I don't know if Valeria has been shown to be still alive in new continuity or not. -- Ed. I did search around to see if Valeria had appeared since Secret Wars and nobody has any details on her coming back, so I suspect it's yet another case of the people who you don't want editing a wiki being the ones most likely to edit it.
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Mar 14, 2018 23:05
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Rhyno posted:I think he traded her soul for the magic upgrade. To the best of my knowledge nothing in Irredeemable has been specifically overwritten since Secret Wars, but it didn't really need to be; people started ignoring the magic skin suit the minute it was published. It'd faded into the "yeah that probably didn't happen" mists years beforehand, and while it's logical that it was thrown out with most of the other dumb poo poo in the soft reboot, nobody's actually made it explicit.
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Mar 14, 2018 23:13
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Random Stranger posted:I did search around to see if Valeria had appeared since Secret Wars Marvel Legacy #1 from last year ended like this.  
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Mar 14, 2018 23:14
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Teenage Fansub posted:Marvel Legacy #1 from last year ended like this. Wrong Valeria. She's named after the one we're talking about.
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Mar 14, 2018 23:15
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You mean that princess from the 5th Dimension that Johnny dated
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CapnAndy posted:But the suit was made out of her skin, because "Oh no, years of good writing has made this villain sympathetic, I need to go way over the top to make them hateable again" is apparently a gently caress-up that all writers must make at least once. Doom's leather armor will always be canon to me, because I'm sick of people acting like Doom's a good guy. 
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Mar 15, 2018 12:40
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Doom redeemed His actions in Inreedemable 
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Mar 15, 2018 13:07
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As far as I know, Unthinkable has never been retconned. Doom does seem to have changed somewhat (possibly due to his time in Hell after the events of that story), so I don't think, as he is now, he would make that same choice.
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Mar 15, 2018 14:43
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It'll just be ignored until someone comes along who just can't ignore it and must retcon it, even though it hasn't been referenced in 20 years.
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Mar 15, 2018 15:51
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I think Doom should completely be a villain and that given the chance to be truly noble he'll always make the evil, selfish choice. But there's a difference between not wanting the character to become a hero and making him do some really out of character evil gruesome poo poo just to make some kind of misguided point.
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Mar 15, 2018 18:11
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How is allowing the people to be ruled by Doom a selfish choice?
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Mar 15, 2018 19:11
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Wirh Bendis gone I really hope they pull Hickman back in because I love heroic Doom and want him to stay.
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Mar 15, 2018 19:16
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Rhyno posted:Wirh Bendis gone I really hope they pull Hickman back in because I love heroic Doom and want him to stay.   
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Rhyno posted:Wirh Bendis gone I really hope they pull Hickman back in because I love heroic Doom and want him to stay. Plus, the reveal that Mephisto was coming after Doom because he'd been planning on all the cool poo poo he'd do with Doom's soul when he inevitably got it and was insanely pissed off that Doom was putting himself on the path to genuine redemption owned pretty hard.
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