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1234567890num
Oct 6, 2017

https://lpix.org/sslptest/index.php?id=150523

Moved to lpix.

1234567890num fucked around with this message at 19:08 on Mar 18, 2018

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Blueberry Pancakes
Aug 18, 2012

Jack in!! MegaMan, Execute!
Why did he want to win the lipstick? :stare:

1234567890num
Oct 6, 2017

I don't know why. :shrug:

Also, can you guys guess why I got the Pink Rabbit doll and lipstick early?

TeeQueue
Oct 9, 2012

The time has come. Soon, the bell shall ring. A new world will come. Rise, my servants. Rise and serve me. I am death and life. Darkness and light.

1234567890num posted:

I don't know why. :shrug:

Also, can you guys guess why I got the Pink Rabbit doll and lipstick early?

Because if you didn't, you'd miss dialogue somewhere due to someone leaving or being inaccessible!

I don't remember the game well enough to know for sure, but that sounds about right.

EagerSleeper
Feb 3, 2010

by R. Guyovich

Hobgoblin2099 posted:

Why did he want to win the lipstick? :stare:

Is Dunning married? Maybe he wanted to give it as a gift? But if that's so, isn't this his hotel anyway and he could've just bypassed the whole vending machine contest anyway? :psyduck: The only thing for sure is that Hotel Dusk is abound with mysteries.

Alternatively, he just wants to feel pretty sometimes. ;-*

1234567890num
Oct 6, 2017

Dark Flame Master posted:

Because if you didn't, you'd miss dialogue somewhere due to someone leaving or being inaccessible!

I don't remember the game well enough to know for sure, but that sounds about right.

Exactly that. Since the reactions for the items change during confrontations, I want to show them all. For the record, Martin doesn't react to the lipstick.


EagerSleeper posted:

Is Dunning married? Maybe he wanted to give it as a gift?

It hasn't been mentioned wether Dunning's married or not, but



That's the card from the office that gives the question (??? Who is Jenny? ???). Those who are reading this blind can speculate on who this is.

Thesaya
May 17, 2011

I am a Plant.
Well, a kid most likely from the bear, could be a niece or something but probably more important than that

1234567890num
Oct 6, 2017

https://lpix.org/sslptest/index.php?id=150539

Moved to lpix.

1234567890num fucked around with this message at 16:30 on Mar 19, 2018

Blueberry Pancakes
Aug 18, 2012

Jack in!! MegaMan, Execute!
We should give Melissa Jeff's money. :v:

DeathChicken
Jul 9, 2012

Nonsense. I have not yet begun to defile myself.

I'm stunned Dunning appeared and for once wasn't the grim specter of death Game Over.

FoolyCharged
Oct 11, 2012

Cheating at a raffle? I sentence you to 1 year in jail! No! Two years! Three! Four! Five years! Ah! Ah! Ah! Ah!
Somebody call for an ant?

Call the office and have a new one sent in

1234567890num
Oct 6, 2017

DeathChicken posted:

I'm stunned Dunning appeared and for once wasn't the grim specter of death Game Over.

Me too.


FoolyCharged posted:

Call the office and have a new one sent in

From Chapter 3:
My mom (who left) made this (doll).

1234567890num
Oct 6, 2017

Music: Monochrome


Hobgoblin2099 posted:

We should give Melissa Jeff's money. :v:

I wish we can do this. Talking to Melissa just repeats that last bit from before. We can't show her anything.

FoolyCharged posted:

Call the office and have a new one sent in

This one's made by her mom, so I don't think there's a new one.

The search is limited to this room since Melissa's blocking the door.



It seems that everyone forgot about the stuff we received from Ed.

Music: Straight Chaser


Left box There's a cardboard box on the bed. The products Ed sent over are in the box.



Yeah. Remember what that stapler-like thing is?

Machine There's a mini sewing machine in the box.



We can now talk to Melissa to fix her doll. Kyle's not going to charge anything for using his sewing machine. What a bad salesman.

Music: Pink Rabbit
Look, squirt...
Please, mister!





We just have to sew by drawing zig zag lines. Everyone who finished trauma center for DS or lifesigns would be expert at this.



The lines doesn't even have to be clean, as you can see from the gif.

There, all done.
YAAAAAAAAY!

Aww... :unsmith:

Pretty good, huh? Now get lost.

Aww... :smith:

Thank you! Thank you thank you thank you!
(Nods)
Hey, mister?
What?
Are you and that one guy friends?
What one guy? Louie?
I dunno. He's the guy in Room 213.
Him? No, he's a chump. Why did you think we're friends?
'Cause I saw him coming out of your room. I thought you were talking or something.

Dramatic SFX! Music stops
You saw him what? (So it was Angel...)
What's wrong, mister?
Nothing, kid.
Take your doll and go back to your room. Your old man's probably wondering where you are.
'Kay.

Melissa takes her doll and leaves.



Wow, this chapter goes by very quickly.

Music: Monochrome
We go out of our room.

(So Jeff was in my room, was he? Think it's time he and I have a little chat. ...And see where it goes from there.)





Knock Knocking gets me nothing.

Music: Straight Chaser
Nobody home, huh? Wonder who's room he's breaking into now.

Music: Insomnia
(Wait a second...)
(When I saw him in front of the restaurant...)
Ah...
(He'd just come out of the left hallway door. I bet he was up to no good on the other side...)

Music: Monochrome
And now we're left to search the left hallway for traces of whatever he's been doing. There's 5 rooms in the left hallway: pantry, Louie's, laundry, electrical, and boiler. There's no clue as to which one has something strange.



Knock Knock, knock, knock... Is there a party someone didn't tell me about?

That's the default response for knocking Louie's room, which we haven't seen. Louie's room is out since it's locked, but that still leaves 4 other rooms. Spoiler: it's in the laundry.



Music: Straight Chaser


Cart

A linen cart...
Wonder if it's worth searching...



Obviously if it's not worth searching there won't be a minigame for it. We just have to toss all the sheets away...



And there's nothing. Or is there? That upper cloth of the cart looks kinda strange. I wonder why...



Jackpot!

Music: Easy Feeling
What have we here?



Guess someone didn't like the room service.



Please not Dunning please not Dunning please not Dunning... :pray:



It's not Dunning!!!!!! :toot: I think that describes my thoughts while playing this part for the first time pretty well.

Brother, you GOT to stop sneaking around! What ya doin', anyway?



I found something good.

Close your head, Louie. I just found something interesting.
Hyde? That's laundry. You find Dunning's used tighty-whiteys or something?
It's a gun.
WHAT?
Yeah. In the linen cart.



You're playin' with me, ain't ya? Yo, did you break into the bar or something? 'Cause you're talking like a crazy man. Wait, for real? You really find a piece? C'mon, man, lemme see it!
Here it is.
Holy crap! What kinda crazy person hides somethin' like that here? Rosa ain't been in here today, and ya know I ain't doin' laundry 'less I have to. Maybe it was that one guy.

(??? Who used the laundry today? ???)

Music: Rainy Night


Read note
Yo, what're ya lookin' at?
Write note
Yo, what're ya writin'?
Show old photo
Man, that thing must be older than Helen! Har har har!
Show potato chips
I haven't eaten that stuff since I got out here! (Takes the chips)
Show chocolate bar
Nice, my man! You must be havin' a snack attack! (Takes the chocolate)
Show room 217 key
Yo, Hyde! Don't go flashin' that around! If Dunning sees, we're both dead men, dig?!
Show stack of cash

Cold hard cash. About twenty Gs worth.
Where'd ya get that? Hey, Hyde... Don't tell me... You didn't lift that dough from Room 213, yeah?
Show lipstick
Lipstick? Somebody forget that in your room? My man, Hyde! AWOOOOOOOO!!!
Show pistol
That the heater ya found in the laundry cart?
Yeah.

DariusLikewise
Oct 4, 2008

You wore that on Halloween?
I'm guessing the pieces are starting to come together somehow, Jeff "Angel", Osterzone's painting "Angel opening a door", the angel doll Melissa had, what other Angel references am I missing?

Blueberry Pancakes
Aug 18, 2012

Jack in!! MegaMan, Execute!
Oh right, I almost forgot about the gun here until right around the point you started digging through the laundry.

1234567890num
Oct 6, 2017

DariusLikewise posted:

I'm guessing the pieces are starting to come together somehow, Jeff "Angel", Osterzone's painting "Angel opening a door", the angel doll Melissa had, what other Angel references am I missing?

There's another angel reference from WAY back in the first few updates. See if you can find it.

She wanted a wish, but was granted an angel instead.

1234567890num
Oct 6, 2017

Music: Rainy Night


Who did laundry today?

Any guests use the laundry today?
Yeah, man. Dude in 213. That Jeff Angel guy.
He was wanderin' up and down the hall, so I gave him a holler. Asked if we had a laundry room, and I told him where it was.
(Angel, huh? Figures.)
Where's the little prince think he is, man? This ain't the Ritz, ya know? Something 'bout him gives me the willies. Plus, he does nothing but cry and moan!

This isn't referring to Ritz-Carlton since that company doesn't exist in 1979.

"I don't like what's on the menu." "My bed's too hard." Guy won't shut up! I wanna tell him to take his pansy-rear end outta here and run home to momma! Oh, and now? AND NOW?! He's wailin' about how all his crap got stolen. I tell ya, man, he's drivin' Dunning nuts. Old man's spittin' nails!
What got stolen from Jeff? Cash?
What else, right? But listen to this... Guy lost twenty Gs!
Can ya believe that? Who has that kinda moolah in a hotel? Guy with that much cash? Musta done something dirty, right?
So he claims someone lifted twenty large from him, huh?

Since we show the stack of cash to Louie before, this scene plays.

Yeah, man, it's... Hey... That stack of cash ya was flashin' around earlier... Hyde... You don't got Angel's dough, right? C'mon, man...
Could be.

If we didn't show Louie the stack of cash, this scene plays instead.

That's his story.
Take a look at this, Louie.
Cold hard cash. About twenty Gs worth.
Where'd ya get that? Aw, Hyde... Don't tell me!
Yeah. I'm pretty sure this is Angel's dough.

Both scenes converge here.

Whoa...
I found it wrapped in a plastic bag in my room's toilet.
OK, now I KNOW you're playin' with ol' Louis! Who'd go and do somethin' like that?
You tell me. I went downstairs after I found it and Jeff was already yapping away.
So ya think...
Yeah. I think. Timing was too close to be coincidence. And here's the kicker: I got an eyewitness. Melissa saw Jeff come out of my room.
No way! What a dirtbag!

Music: Easy Feeling
Whatcha gonna do, Hyde? Dunning's thinking 'bout callin' in the cops on this, and LAPD is no joke!
You gotta watch your step, brother!
...You're right. Last thing I need is to get caught up in Hollywood drama. Especially now that I found a lead on Bradley.
Hold it! You got a lead? Did you find somethin' in Room 217?

Apparently both Umineko and this game were released when Ace Attorney is popular. Kyle regrettably doesn't have a pointing sprite. Just multiple 'Hold it!' (Objection!TM would've just been to obvious).

A lighter.
A lighter?
That's right. Looks just like the one Bradley carried.
So the cat what stayed here six months ago under your name was...
That's my hunch.
Yeah, but if that's true... Why'd the dude use your name, man? And why's he stayin' here in the first place?
No clue, Louie. That's what I've got to figure out. But first I have to clear up these distractions.
I dig ya, brother.
That punk Jeff's plannin' something! We gotta make him talk! Gotta find out why he's tryin' to set you up!
My thoughts exactly.
We gotta trick him, yeah? Make him slip up and do something stupid!
He ain't from the streets! He's some spoiled rich punk! We can roll him, easy!
All right, Louie, let's do it.



OK, got it! Check this out, my man!
Yeah?
I get Jeff to come outta his room, right? And then while he's gone...
I go in and give the place a quick shakedown.
Bingo! I bet my last dime there's something in his room that'll nail him.
I think you're right.
So you want I should go ahead and set the trap? Ya got any dirty cop tricks I can use? Beat sticks or sweet talk or that kinda crap?



Create a distraction.

Think you can create a distraction?
Yeah, yeah. I can do that.
Punk's in Room 213, and the room next to him is vacant. So Room 214's where I'll do my thing. I'll go there and...uh...get his attention by makin' a buncha loud noises or something.
That's some plan.
Don't sweat me, man! Look, I'll get him outta his room!
Then I'll just keep him busy for a while, ya dig?
I guess that'll work.
OK, let's go in five. All ya gotta do is go and wait in Room 217, yeah?

Louie finishes talking and rushes out of the room.

Music: Monochrome


Umm... Where should we wait? I miss that part. Let's ask Louie.



Knob



What're ya doin', man? You're not supposed to come in here! You're supposed to be waitin' in Room 217!
Right. On my way.

Sheesh. Don't need to be THAT mad about it.





Knob



We just go inside a few steps...







Door sound.



OK, Hyde. Time to go to work.



Wait a minute, we don't have anything to pick the lock! How are we going to get in?



Knob



:raise: ...I got nothing.



Music: Straight Chaser


Desk Nice desk. Wish my room had one of those.
Lamp There's a lamp on the desk.
Chair There's a checkered chair in front of the desk.
TV Huh? This isn't the same TV I've seen in the other rooms.





Toilet Yeah, it's a toilet. I don't need to look any further.
Tissue It's toilet paper.
Curtain It's a shower curtain.
Bathtub Yep, Rosa's definitely been in here. It's spotless.
Towel For once, I'd like to see some towels that look like they've been used.
Sink Sink's as clean as can be. Rosa deserves a raise.
Bottle It's a bottle of shampoo.
Mirror Mirror's clean. Real clean. Almost scary clean.
Lamp There's a lamp above the mirror.





Phone That's the same phone I've seen in every room.
Stand There's a small stand next to the bed.
Bed Bed's a mess.

During examination of Room 217 posted:

Bed I'd love to see just one bed that looked like it's been slept in.
Congratulations, Kyle! You got your wish! :toot:
Painting And another still-life painting on the wall. I've seen a few of those.
Lamp There's a reading lamp in the corner of the room.





Can It's an empty beer can. Just one? Huh...
Table There's a low table in front of the sofa. Great for resting your feet.
Jacket That must be Jeff's coat. Wonder if it would fit me.

Card
Hmm? There's something in the jacket pocket.

The name on the card is Jeff Damon.
Jeff Damon...
Damon? I've heard that name before.
Music: Insomnia
(Oh, right...)
(It was in the lobby paper.)
It seems there was a burglary in Beverly Hills last night. Quite brazen, really...
The victim was an attorney named Larry Damon.
Mr. Damon happens to be a friend of mine, you see? I do hope he is doing well.
What the hell?
(Is the attorney in that article Jeff's father?)
Music: Straight Chaser
Lamp There's a lamp on the stand.
Stand There's a small stand in the corner of the room.
Sofa That's a nice leather sofa. Angel got the swank room for sure...
Bag There's a bag on the sofa.

Key
Look what's in his bag...

So Jeff's got the master key to my room, huh?

That's all we can examine in this room. Let's ask Louie about that key we just found.

Music: Slow Steps


tomanton
May 22, 2006

beam me up, tomato

DariusLikewise posted:

I'm guessing the pieces are starting to come together somehow, Jeff "Angel", Osterzone's painting "Angel opening a door", the angel doll Melissa had, what other Angel references am I missing?
Louie called Mila an angel, Melissa called her mom an angel. A bit superficial next to someone being killed over a painting, but references all the same!

1234567890num
Oct 6, 2017

Music: Slow Steps




What's the deal?

Jeff closes the door and comes into the room.

Music: Resolution


You'd better get out of here now.
Yeah? I thought it was the kitchen. Ain't Rosa around here somewhere?
Are you trying to be funny? Are you LAUGHING at me? Well, laugh this off! I'm calling the front desk and getting the police over here!

That's the attitude that gives you "game over"s, Kyle.

Bad idea, pal. You're the last person who wants to see the cops.
What's that supposed to mean?
Oh, just a feeling I got.
Now wait just one-
So here we are, in your room. Just a couple of guys having a harmless chat.
Tell me something, Jeff. You got a thing for cops and robbers, right? Is a little casual B&E a crime? That's breaking and entering, if you were confused.
I... I know what it is, all right? I'm not stupid! Of course it's a crime!
Now get out of my room!
Oh yeah, I'm going. Don't you worry about it.
But tell me something. Since you're so smart and all... Why'd you do it?



What did you do when you broke into my room, huh? Watch TV? Nap on the bed?



Time to sing, little birdie.



You hid cash in my john.

You hid a stack of cash inside the toilet tank. Didn't you?
Huh?
Look, if I had a stack of cash, I'm sure I wouldn't hide it in somebody's toilet, OK?



Gonna play dumb, huh?



Oh, I got proof. I got all the proof I need.



I got an eyewitness.

I got an eyewitness who saw you come out of my room.
Uh...
Yeah, nice comeback. Oh, and I also know about the piece you stashed in the cart.
Knock it off! You can't just say things like that!



Give it up, kid. You're not getting away with this. Why'd you do something so stupid, anyway?

Music: On the Rocks


I know about the cash.

There's a reason you hid that cash in my room. You wanted to see me take a fall!
Look, I didn't hide any cash in your room. How would I ever get in there?
What?
If you're going to say things like that, you'd better have proof.
(...Proof? I guess I need something more to nail this punk.)

I know about the gun.

I know why you hid the pistol in the laundry cart. You wanted to make somebody else into a criminal.
I didn't hide a gun in the laundry cart. I don't know what you're talking about.

Your real name is...

Your real name is... Jeff Damon, right?
What...what are you talking about?
My name's Angel. Jeff Angel.



Well this is going nowhere. We'll have to show our evidence to him.

Show stack of cash

It was you! I knew it! You stole my money!
You hid this dough in my room.
I don't know what you're talking about.
Where'd you get the money?
I said I don't know what you're talking about! What don't you understand?

Show pistol

Why are you showing me that?
Found this piece in the laundry room. That's where you hid it, right?
I don't know what you're talking about.
You're lying, punk.
Why are you so convinced that I hid it? I bet if you dusted it for prints, you'd only find yours.

Show Jeff's student ID

What's that supposed to be? I don't know anything about it.

Show duplicate room 217 key

Oh.
You want to tell me what you're doing with this?
...

I know about the cash.

You hid the cash I found in my room, didn't you?
I told you I don't know anything about it! You're really getting on my nerves!
What?
If you're going to say things like that, you'd better have proof.
(...Proof? I guess I need something more to nail this punk.)

I know about the gun.

I know why you hid the pistol in the laundry cart. You wanted to make somebody else into a criminal.
No! I didn't!
I told you I don't know anything about that!

Your real name is...

Your real name's Jeff Damon, isn't it?
No, it's NOT! How many times do I have to tell you? My name's Jeff Angel!



We're STILL going nowhere. Let's show other items and see what happens.

Read note
What are you looking at?
Write note
Are you writing a book or something?

Sadly previous items evokes the same response as normal. Asking the questions again just gives the same dialogue. With nothing to do, we leave the room (it somehow doesn't give a game over).

Music: Insomnia
(Wait a minute...)
(What was that windbag Summer going on about...)
I must tell you about this article I was reading in the newspaper.
It seems there was a burglary in Beverly Hills last night. Quite brazen, really... The victim was an attorney named Larry Damon.
Mr. Damon happens to be a friend of mine, you see? I do hope he is doing well.
(That's it. That newspaper...)

Music: Monochrome




Knob



We can still find Louie in the room.

Music: Easy Feeling
Got a minute?
What? I'm workin', man. Catch me later.

Music: Monochrome


We can't examine anything in this room (the magnifying glass icon doesn't light up).



The newspaper is still right where Martin left it.

Music: Straight Chaser


Newspaper



Let's see what's in the paper today...



The Beverly Hills home of attorney Larry Damon was burglarized last night. Police say that $20,000 and a pistol were taken from a safe in the study. The perpetrators then fled the scene in Damon's car. A police spokesman said they are actively pursuing the case.



(So that's it, huh? The cash from my john is from this robbery.)

Music: Monochrome
Evidence in hand, we go back to confront Jeff.





Knock

It's Kyle Hyde.

I'm not talking to you. Go away.

Open up. You asked for proof, I've got proof.

Music: Slow Steps


You're busted, kid. I know what you did in Beverly Hills.
...What?
Let me in. One way or another, I'm coming in.
All right, all right. Come in.



We'll save the question for next time. For now, here's some descriptions.

Music: So Noted





EagerSleeper
Feb 3, 2010

by R. Guyovich
:munch: Any day where Jeff is getting dunked on is a good one.

RedMagus
Nov 16, 2005

Male....Female...what does it matter? Power is beautiful, and I've got the power!
Grimey Drawer
GEEEEET WRECKED SON

I love this part of the story, this little snot has been begging to be dunked on, and it's about to go down hard.

DariusLikewise
Oct 4, 2008

You wore that on Halloween?
Shoot him! Shoot him with the gun!

1234567890num
Oct 6, 2017

DariusLikewise posted:

Shoot him! Shoot him with the gun!

Unfortunately we can't do that, since then Dunning will kick Kyle out and we'll get a Game Over (also Kyle doesn't want to become a murderer (possibly again)). There will be more Jeff Dunking though.

tomanton
May 22, 2006

beam me up, tomato
There was this rom-com cyoa game for the DS called SPRUNG that, while nowhere near as deep as Hotel Dusk, let you lose immediately by pepper spraying anyone at any time. In fact I don't think there was any use for the pepper spray besides getting game overs. I think it's a big missed opportunity that Kyle can't just shoot anyone in the leg, give some smarmy non-excuse and then get kicked out.

1234567890num
Oct 6, 2017



Music: On the Rocks


Show lobby newspaper

Hey...
That article...
The guy who got robbed in Beverly Hills is named Damon. The same name that's on this student ID.
That's...
And guess what was taken from the Damon residence? Twenty large and a gun.
Er...

Show stack of cash

That's...
What're you doing with this much scratch? You steal it from mommy and daddy?
Uh...

If we hadn't taken the stack of cash back from the suitcase, Kyle wouldn't go into this room. The responses for non-evidence items are still the same.

Show pistol

...Ah.

Show Jeff's student ID

Hey...that's...
My student ID.

Show duplicate room 215 key

Uh...

NOW we can actually get somewhere with the questions.

I know about the cash.

There's a reason you hid that cash in my room.



If Jeff had stayed quiet, no one would've even know about the money.

You wanted trouble.

You wanted to cause a big stink. So you took the master key to my room and hid the money in the john.
Er...
Those aren't the actions of your average Joe, pal. The only one who's gonna get hurt in this mess is you. So why'd you do it? Twenty large just something to play with for you?
You mistake me for a sap that would just take the fall? Is this a game to you? That it? Stop playing the fool and grow up!
Grow up... Like I haven't heard that before.



That makes me so mad!
Stop treating me like I'm stupid! I'm not a kid! Don't pretend to know one single thing about me!

Who do I sound like?

Who do I sound like?
Huh?
I told you to grow up, right? You said I sounded like somebody.
Yeah... Like my poppa.
...Poppa?
You telling me you call your old man "poppa"?
That's right. What of it?
Uh... Nothing, I guess.
So, uh, what kind of man is your...poppa?
What kind of man is he?
What's he do for a living?
He's a lawyer.
Lawyer, huh? Sounds like he's got his act together.
Not even close.
Look, I've had about-
You're wrong! DEAD WRONG!



Your old man that bad?

Your old man as bad as all that?
Worse. He's an arrogant scumbag who thinks he's always right about everything. And he doesn't trust anyone but himself.
Not even his own family.

I know about the gun.

I know why you hid the pistol in the laundry cart.



Again, if Jeff just stayed quiet, no one would've even know that there's a gun.

You wanted it found.

It's because you wanted somebody to find it. You stole the gun from your own house.



Why put the gun there?

Why'd you put the gun where somebody would find it?
I figured they'd call the cops once it got found. That's all.

Your real name is...

Your real name is...



The answer to these questions are actually already shown when we asked it before getting the newspaper.

Jeff Damon.

Jeff Damon. The proof's on your student ID.
Er...
Why're you hiding your real name?
It's my father's name...



You hate your dad's name?

Why you hate your old man's name so much?
I don't want to have a jerk like him as my father. That's why.

Music: Resolution
Look, kid, I don't care if your name's Angel or Damon or McGillicutty. Got it? I don't even care whose money that is. All I want to know is why you did it.
You think I know? Why are we talking about this? Nobody understands me.
Give it a rest, will ya? You're an open book, kid. Had you pegged from the moment I laid eyes on you.
You're such a liar. What do you think you know about me?
Where do you want me to start?
Never worked a day in your life, so you got no idea about the true value of money. That's why you can steal twenty grand from your old man without blinking an eye. That's why you could take it and use it and lose it just to get a little attention.
You never used a gun in your life. Oh sure, you imagined what it would be like. But you got no idea what it's like to pull the trigger. To take a life. You got no idea what it takes to bleed a man out and watch his light go.
That's why you toss a gun into a laundry cart like it means nothing.



That's why you took his cash and his heater and ran like hell. 'Course, you didn't know what to do with 'em after you stole 'em.
And after you showed your belly and ran, you had nowhere to go.



And that's when you meet me. Just some down-on-his-luck salesman. Not too bright. Not too dangerous. You plant the goods on me, then sit back and wait for Poppa to love you again.

Music stops
I... I didn't... I wasn't...
ENOUGH! I did NOT come to this hellhole just to hear you bleat like a drat sheep! You are going to tell me everything, and you are going to do it now. Do not make me ask twice.





Music: Violet Sky
...All right. All right. What do I say? I mean...you're right. You lived in the world. Me?
I mean, I'm just a kid. I'm nothing. Just a spoiled little rich kid.
This I know. Keep going.
It's...it's true. Everything you said is true. I can't stand my poppa. I can't forgive him for who he is and what he does. I did all this just to get under his skin. I didn't plan it. I just...opened the safe and grabbed the stuff and ran.
But I didn't know what he'd done until I saw the newspaper. He knew it was me who took his precious money and his drat gun. He knew it was me, and he still called the cops.
You know what my parents are doing right now? Mom's crying on the sofa. And Poppa? He's telling her how he's doing this for me. Teaching me a lesson.
You want to know what my poppa's like, right? Let me tell you.



Hire Poppa, and he'll convince a jury that black is white and night is day. That's why people spend a fortune getting him to defend them. And if you can pay, it doesn't matter what you've done. Theft? OK! Assault? Sure! Tax evasion? No problem! Murder? He's your man.
He'll go to bat for anyone. Even organized crime. Hell, ESPECIALLY organized crime.
Organized crime?
Yeah, right now he's working for a group of lowlifes called Nail or Nile or something.
...What?

Music stops
(Jeff's old man is working for Nile? Oh, kid...)
Yeah, that's who he is. That's my poppa...
Scum of the earth!

Music: Insomnia
Where'd you learn all this?
He'd bring these men by the house from time to time. Unsociable types, you know?



I happened to...overhear some of their conversations, and that's how I found out. That these guys were part of Nile, I mean.
That's it, huh?
Poppa's getting filthy rich off what these guys are paying him. So it's cool that I, uh, boosted a small chunk of it. Right?



So what's the plan?
Since I learned Poppa called the cops, I've been thinking...
He wants me to come crawling home with my tail between my legs. And hey, why not, right? That's what I've always done...
But I've changed. I'm not going to do that again. I'm going to embarrass him. That's why I did all this and tried to get Dunning to call the police.
I figure they'll get here, see through my story, and arrest me. My being arrested will cause all kinds of trouble for Poppa. Then the press will come and ask why I did it... And I'll tell 'em. I'll tell them what a crook Poppa is. I'll tell them all the dirty stuff he's doing.

Music stops
Ha ha ha!
What's so funny?
You know something, iid? I've seen dumb before, but it's not often I meet stupid.
Wh-what?
You trying to punch your old man's ticket to the morgue?
I don't...
Knock this crap off!



Music: Violet Sky
This is yours. Take it and go home. Go see your father. You think this is a good idea? Think you're smart? What happens when you go to the press and talk about how your old man's mobbed up? You think Nile's just going to sit back and do nothing? Go ahead. Shoot your mouth off. You and the old man can push up daisies together.
But...
SHUT UP! You want your poppa away from Nile? You want him to keep breathing? Here's what you do: take your sorry rear end home and NEVER do anything like this again.
But, how...how am I... What am I supposed to do then?
You want the old man to change? You change first. Stop depending on him for everything. Try standing on your own two feet.
Mr. Hyde...
Do that, and your old man'll come around. You'll be showing him how to live. Now get outta here.

Contrary to what he said, Kyle is the one who go out of the room.



(Still can't believe Jeff's old man his ties to Nile. The coincidences are piling up faster than I can count. How many times have I heart the name Nile since I've been here?)

Um, three times? From Ed, Louie, and Jeff.

(I'd better take a breather and clear my head.)
(I need to have all this sorted out before I go on.)

tomanton
May 22, 2006

beam me up, tomato
Seeya, Jeff.

Does any of the confrontation dialogue vary from NG to NG+? I ask because I was going over the soundtrack on Youtube and the lines people were spoiling (as always) weren't a one to one match with what's played out so far.

Mraagvpeine
Nov 4, 2014

I won this avatar on a technicality this thick.
But where did Jeff get the key for our room?

1234567890num
Oct 6, 2017

tomanton posted:

Seeya, Jeff.

Does any of the confrontation dialogue vary from NG to NG+? I ask because I was going over the soundtrack on Youtube and the lines people were spoiling (as always) weren't a one to one match with what's played out so far.

From what I've seen there's no difference. While playing the game in a NG for the alternate updates I looked at the corresponding actual updates to see if there are any dialogue changes and the only one I found is Kyle's conversations with Rachel.


Mraagvpeine posted:

But where did Jeff get the key for our room?



From the office

Blueberry Pancakes
Aug 18, 2012

Jack in!! MegaMan, Execute!

1234567890num posted:

I mean, I'm just a kid. I'm nothing. Just a spoiled little rich kid.
This I know. Keep going.

I love Kyle.

1234567890num
Oct 6, 2017

Music: Play It Again


Then Rachel called and told me about the painting Angel Opening a Door. Seems the thing was stolen from a New York art museum three years ago. We talked, then I went to meet Rosa and ended up running into Jeff. Jeff asked me...



What's wrong with him?
No, that ain't it. That's what Dunning said.
Look after Mila, will you?
No, that ain't it. That's what Rosa said.

Did Dunning say anything?

Music: Midnight
That's right. That's what the punk said.
He was grinning from ear to ear, like he was glad he got robbed.

Music: Play It Again


I went to check up on her and used my notebook to chat with her. I learned that her father's name is...



Kevin Woodward
No, that ain't it. That's the name of Melissa's father.
Martin Summer
No, that ain't it. That's the name of the sap in Room 211.

Robert Evans

Music: Midnight
That's right. Mila's father's name is Robert Evans. The bracelet she wears was a gift from him.

Music: Play It Again


That's when Melissa told me she'd seen Jeff coming out of my room. I knew Jeff was trouble, so I went back and gave the laundry room a quick search. What I found there was unexpected. It was...



A crowbar
No, that ain't right. That's what I put back in the toolbox.
A Room 215 master key
No, that ain't it. That's what I found in Jeff's bag in Room 213.

A gun

Music: Midnight
That's right. I found it under a mountain of sheets in the laundry cart. Nice piece, too.

Music: Play It Again


We both figured Jeff was involved somehow and decided to roll him up. While Louie kept Jeff busy, I took a little stroll through his room. I patted down Jeff's jacket and found...



A mini sewing machine
No, that ain't it. The mini sewing machine's one of the products I'm supposed to be selling.
A newspaper
No, that ain't it. That was left at the front desk.

Jeff's Student ID

Music: Midnight
That's right. I found Jeff's student ID in the breast pocket of his coat. I saw the name on the card and realized that Jeff was using a fake name.

Music: Play It Again


Then I stuck his feet to the coals and asked why he was trying to stir up trouble. Jeff told me all about his idiotic plan, and how he was ticked off at the old man. His father's name is Larry Damon, and he makes a living as a...



Doctor
No, that ain't it. That's what Melissa's father does.
Writer
No, that ain't it. That's Summer's job. Or his fake job, anyway.

Lawyer

Music: Midnight
That's right. Jeff's father is a lawyer. Knocked me for a loop when I heard he was a hired mouthpiece for Nile.

Music: Play It Again


It did convince me of one thing though: people do stupid things. But when you ask them, they always got a reason.

Music: Silent Moon
Tell me, Bradley... Why'd you do it? For what price did you sell our trust? Your soul? Maybe that's all I want to know. Maybe that's why I'm chasing ghosts and lies. The sun sets, and Hotel Dusk retreats into darkness.
Like the shadows that creep across the floor, I'm moving toward an answer.

DeathChicken
Jul 9, 2012

Nonsense. I have not yet begun to defile myself.

1234567890num posted:

Tell me, Bradley... Why'd you do it? For what price did you sell our trust? Your soul? Maybe that's all I want to know. Maybe that's why I'm chasing ghosts and lies. The sun sets, and Hotel Dusk retreats into darkness.
Like the shadows that creep across the floor, I'm moving toward an answer.


Kyle rips off his clever mask and reveals he was Max Payne all along.

1234567890num
Oct 6, 2017

Music: Same as previous updates (Sapu)


As always, the phone call with Rachel is a bit different.



You doing OK?
What is it, Rachel?
Your usual cheery self, I see. Listen, I dug up some info on this Osterzone fellow.
Let me have it.
You're welcome. OK, let's see... He was born in England in 1875. And he died in 1910 at the age of thirty-five. Whole career is one big mystery. The guy was a complete unknown while he was alive. Then, about forty years after he died, ten or so of his works were discovered. Suddenly, people love his stuff and he becomes the art world's new darling. From what I've read, artsy types appreciate his "subtle and distinctive brushwork." There are a lot of collectors out there who want his paintings in a big way. You wouldn't BELIEVE how much folks are paying for his stuff! It's crazy! Oh, and his most valuable painting is something called Angel Opening a Door.
Angel Opening a Door, huh?
Mmm-hmm. But the thing's been stolen, so there you go.
Someone stole it?
That's right. It says here it was taken from the Travis Art Museum... Let's see... Yep, three years ago.
Interesting.
Apparently it's the largest of all Osterzone's paintings. And the most popular. Isn't this all just fascinating?
Yeah.
So...Kyle? Sweetie?
Huh?
Why the sudden interest in dead painters?
Actually, I just wanted to know about angel paintings.
Angel paintings? You mean paintings of angels, right?
Yeah, whatever. Listen, I found some dirt on Bradley in the last few hours.
Bradley? That's the man you're looking for, right? The one you won't tell me about?
Bradley was my partner when I was on the force. Three years ago, he went rogue and stabbed me in the back. Used his badge to steal a boatload of cash and a big angel painting. Then he vanished... I want to know what happened. Why he did it. That's why I'm tracking him down.
Oh...
Let me guess. Ed's out again, isn't he?
Um...yeah. Yeah, he's out. I'll have him give you a ring when he gets in.
Do it.
And, Kyle? Thanks for telling me. About Bradley.
Sure.



OK...
Eight bells. Time to go see Rosa.



Unlike the first time we see Jeff, not pressing this one won't skip the conversation.



Like what?

Like what?
Aw, never mind. You didn't hear anything anyway.
Yeah, I heard. Somebody boosted your stuff, right? That what this is about?



Show NougaChew!
Do you think I'm a little kid or something? What am I supposed to do with this? Is that a NougaChew!? Great. Why don't you just keep it.
Show candy
I don't like candy. I don't want your candy.
Show Pinkie Rabbit doll
That's Pinkie Rabbit, isn't it? ...Not that I would know or anything.

Let's pretend that Kyle is an idiot who took the time to take the stack of cash from his suitcase and show it to Jeff.

Show stack of cash
This what got stolen from you?
Ha ha ha! So it was you, after all!
After all?

What'n the name'a Sam Hill's goin' on here?!

Someone's yelling behind me. And I think I know who it is.



Music: Drunken Waltz
What the hell ya doin'?
It was you all along!
Huh?
Don't play dumb with me!
I knew there was somethin' fishy 'bout ya! Now ya've gone and proved me right, ya piece'a trash!
Get out! Get outta my place 'fore I sock ya one!
What?

Music: Dream's End
(This isn't how I expected him to react. That's not why I showed him that...)





...drat.




Louie: 5
Dunning: 5
Rosa: 4
Martin: 3
Jeff: 3
Melissa: 2
Iris: 1


Music: Sapu


We're going to press this one.



You lost $20,000, right?

Twenty large, right?



That's how much scratch you lost, right? Twenty thousand dollars? Am I wrong?
Oh, I get it.
It was you! Wasn't it, Mr. Hyde?
Huh?

The hell's goin' on here?

Someone's yelling behind me. And I think I know who it is.



Music: Hangover Blues
Somethin' happen?
We're just talking.
Great. Last thing I need in my life's more useless chitchat.
I solved the case. The thief is right here.
Huh? Mr. Hyde? You better have proof before ya say somethin' like that, kid!
He knows exactly how much was taken from me.
Oh yeah?

If Kyle has the stack of money on him, this happens.

All right, Mr. Hyde. I'm gonna need ya to show me yer things.
You want to buy me dinner first?
Don't get smart, pal! Just get it done so we can both feel better.
That satisfy ya, Angel?
...I suppose so.
Not gonna happen.
Sorry, Mr. Hyde, but I gotta do it. Now lemme see if ya got twenty thousand in cash on ya...

Music: Drunken Waltz
...Hey!
Mr. Hyde! What the hell ya doin' with this?
That? Just...you know. Hanging on to it.
So you're the thief! Ya been stealin' stuff all along! I see the kinda man you are, ya lowdown rat!
Get outta my place! Get out 'fore I toss ya out m'self!
What?

Music: Dream's End
(Oh, crap!)





...drat.




Louie: 5
Dunning: 5
Rosa: 4
Jeff: 4
Martin: 3
Melissa: 2
Iris: 1


Jeff's score sure is rising quickly.

Explosions posted:

Yeah, the game over scoreboard should probably just say Kyle: 18.

This is definitely accurate (back when there were still just 18 Game Overs).

If Kyle is not an idiot and still stash the stack of cash in his suitcase, this happens instead.


Mr. Hyde.
Can I get ya t'show me yer things?
My what?
Yer belongin's!
Why do you want to see my...belongin's?
'Cause otherwise I'll toss ya outta my place, that's why!
That satisfy ya, Angel?
...I suppose so.
Um...
All right, here goes nothin'...
Well? Did he have anything?
Hell no, he didn't!
I swear to heaven this crap's gonna kill me. Enough's enough already!
You call that a search? You couldn't find dirt in a graveyard, old man!
I demand that you call the police!

Jeff then leaves and the conversation goes as usual. But what happens if we have other "wrong" items? Well, nothing, really. It plays that last scene without a game over. Guess Jeff was right when calling it a sloppy search.

Music: Sapu




Remember when I said that we'll rarely see the questions screen, turns out I wasn't really counting on there being so many on the alternate timeline. With nothing to do, we quit the conversation.

Music: Insomnia
(Now that I think of it...)
(Dunning did say something, didn't he?)
I look like Sherlock Holmes to you? If there's an investigation, I gotta call the police. ...Much as I hate to.
But...
What was that last part about?

Music: Sapu




Rosa won't appear until we finish talking with Jeff and Dunning.



Sorry, can't help you.

Forget it.
Want a babysitter? Hire a kid. Maybe Melissa can help.

Melissa's too busy asking Martin to repair her wings.

Hmph! Is that so?
Have it your way, then! I'll ask no more favors from YOU!

Rosa finishes talking and storms off.



Amazingly, that doesn't give us a Game Over. For now.

Blueberry Pancakes
Aug 18, 2012

Jack in!! MegaMan, Execute!
The game over is that Rosa doesn't make Kyle any breakfast the next morning and Martin refuses to share any of his. :v:

1234567890num
Oct 6, 2017

Oh the horror! (Of finding out you're locked into a Game Over by a choice from hours ago)

1234567890num
Oct 6, 2017

Music: Same as previous updates (Sapu)




Rosa can still be found in the front desk.

I thought I could depend on you, Mr. Hyde. Maybe you're not the man I thought you were!

Kyle still enter and talk to Mila like before.



Show candy
(Takes the candy)
Show Pinkie Rabbit doll
You think this is cute?
(Yes)
All right. It's yours.
(Takes the doll)

Awww... :kimchi: Kyle can be nice when he wants to.

Also, if we exit this question screen we can walk around Rosa's room but can't examine anything.






Since we didn't agree to look after Mila before, her reaction is different.

Oh, it's you.
Oh, it's you, is it? What are you doing here? Huh?



I thought it over.

I thought about what you said. I figured I'd come by and make sure everything was OK.
You did, did you? How nice!
Well, I'm here now. You can go ahead and leave.
Actually, we're in the middle of a conversation.
It'll wait! You hear? Mila's tired. Finish up later, all right?
Fine.

The other choice is more interesting.

That's my business.

That's my business.
Goodness gracious, you sound like a twelve-year-old! I'm tired of this nonsense! You want to act like a child, I'll treat you like one!
Why don't you run along now?



We can't exit the room with Melissa there, so we have to sew her doll. If we mess up really bad...



Why not? Can't you do it?
No, that ain't it.

And that brings us back to the minigame. Also, we can't exit the minigame.



Then...wait... we're at 8.40 PM already? Wow. That's... really short.

Blueberry Pancakes
Aug 18, 2012

Jack in!! MegaMan, Execute!
Mila. :unsmith:

1234567890num
Oct 6, 2017

4 more posts until the next page.

Hope you're satisfied with Kyle being nice to Mila, since next update he's going to be cruel to Louie for no reason (and to Jeff for good reason).

Kitala
Sep 2, 2012

Not Some Opera Floozy

1234567890num posted:

4 more posts until the next page.

Hope you're satisfied with Kyle being nice to Mila, since next update he's going to be cruel to Louie for no reason (and to Jeff for good reason).

Poor Louie. He’s just a goof that wants to help.

Blueberry Pancakes
Aug 18, 2012

Jack in!! MegaMan, Execute!
Oh no. Bullying. :smith:

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1234567890num
Oct 6, 2017

This should do it.

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